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Dear Llightex. My grammar and citations were fine. You wrote that "private" was not in the cite. My cite and the Pelosi remarks were subsequently removed from the subsection of the article. The cited story, and feel free to delete it of course, was as follows: GOP senator to object to Electoral College results, forcing Congress to vote on overturning Biden's win Dareh Gregorian and Kasie Hunt and Kyle Stewart Wed, December 30, 2020, 2:18 PM PST

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., announced Wednesday that he would object to the certification of some states' Electoral College results on Jan. 6, a move that will force his fellow Republicans to vote on a choice between rejecting President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claims of massive voter fraud in this year's election or disenfranchising millions of voters.

While numerous Republican House members are expected to object to the Electoral College results from several swing states during Congress' certification of the votes next week, Hawley is the first senator to commit to doing so. The announcement is significant because under congressional rules, a written objection that is endorsed by both a House member and a senator is needed to force Congress to consider an objection. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., ripped Hawley's announcement in remarks on the Senate floor. “The effort by the sitting president of the United States to overturn the results is patently undemocratic," Schumer said. "The effort by others to amplify and burnish his ludicrous claims of fraud is equally revolting. This is America. We have elections. We have results. We make arguments based on fact and reason — not conspiracy and fantasy." The objections from GOP members are highly unlikely to succeed. For one to be sustained and a state's presidential vote thrown out, a majority in each chamber has to vote to agree to the objection. The Democrats hold a majority in the House, and while Republicans have a slim majority in the Senate, a number of moderate Republicans have already said they would not vote to toss out a state's votes. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., had privately urged Republican senators not to challenge the vote because it could put some vulnerable Republicans at odds with fervent Trump supporters. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., shrugged off Hawley's announcement, telling reporters she has "no doubt that on next Wednesday, a week from today, that Joe Biden will be confirmed by the acceptance of the vote of the Electoral College as the 46th president of the United States." Biden’s incoming White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, also showed no concern during a virtual briefing with reporters. “Congress will certify the results of this election as they do every four years,” Psaki said, adding: “This is merely a formality. It certainly should be treated as such." Despite the long-shot nature of the challenge, Hawley's objection could lead to a long day; Congress could debate for up to two hours on objections to each states' results before members vote. Hawley, who is considered a possible presidential candidate in 2024, did not say how many states' votes he would object to, but he suggested that Pennsylvania would be one of them. “I cannot vote to certify the Electoral College results on January 6 without raising the fact that some states, particularly Pennsylvania, failed to follow their own state election laws," Hawley said in a statement, echoing a claim made repeatedly by the president and rejected repeatedly by state and federal courts. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, blasted Hawley's announcement as "another baseless attempt by Trump’s enablers to undermine the will of the people." "Pennsylvania’s election was secure, legal & fair. Our electoral votes have been cast for Joe Biden & Kamala Harris," he wrote in a pair of tweets, adding that "people should know that any senator making declarations about challenging Pennsylvania’s election result is performing political theater for Donald Trump, not following any facts or laws." Outgoing Rep. Denver Riggleman, R-Va., slammed Hawley and members of their party in the House who planned to mount objections. "All this is based on disinformation and conspiracy theories," Riggleman said in an interview with MSNBC's Kasie Hunt, blasting his colleagues for "throwing away federalism" for "really a baseline of disinformation and ridiculousness." "When does a scam become a coup?" he asked, adding, "You inject disinformation into the constituents and then use that disinformation as a rationalization to protest this. It's unbelievable, and it's how disinformation works, right?" "A lot of people are fundraising off of fantasy, and it comes a time you have to get more and more provocative to raise those funds," Riggleman continued. Hawley, he speculated, "is looking for a higher office. Maybe he's positioning for 2024. This is all just political. Has nothing to do on rule of law, has nothing to do on what's good for this country. It has to do with what's good for the individual" and "assuaging the Twitter mobs or assuaging a certain specific part of your electorate instead of doing what's right, and that's serving your country based on the Constitution." In his statement, Hawley tried to portray the extraordinary move as business as usual, saying, "I will follow the same practice Democrat members of Congress have in years past," pointing to the 2004 and 2016 elections. During the certification of the 2016 election results, several House Democrats attempted to object to the vote in a number of states, but they were ruled out of order by then-Vice President Biden, who noted that no senators had joined in their objections. After the 2004 election, then-Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, objected to Ohio's votes, charging there had been voter suppression because of long lines and missing voting machines in minority areas in the state. Then-Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., said those complaints were “outrage based on fantasy conspiracies” while the Bush White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, said, “It is time to move forward and not engage in conspiracy theories or partisan politics of this nature.” The measure failed in the Senate by a vote of 74-1 and in the House by a vote of 267-31. Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., took a dark view of Hawley's actions in an interview with MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell. “Josh Hawley and anyone who supports his effort are engaged in the attempted overthrow of democracy," Murphy said. "There is no evidence that there was any fraud. Sen. Hawley apparently believes that if a Democrat wins the presidential race, it must be illegitimate by definition, even absent any actual evidence of misbehavior."GOP senator to object to Electoral College results, forcing Congress to vote on overturning Biden's win Dareh Gregorian and Kasie Hunt and Kyle Stewart Wed, December 30, 2020, 2:18 PM PST Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., announced Wednesday that he would object to the certification of some states' Electoral College results on Jan. 6, a move that will force his fellow Republicans to vote on a choice between rejecting President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claims of massive voter fraud in this year's election or disenfranchising millions of voters. While numerous Republican House members are expected to object to the Electoral College results from several swing states during Congress' certification of the votes next week, Hawley is the first senator to commit to doing so. The announcement is significant because under congressional rules, a written objection that is endorsed by both a House member and a senator is needed to force Congress to consider an objection. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., ripped Hawley's announcement in remarks on the Senate floor. “The effort by the sitting president of the United States to overturn the results is patently undemocratic," Schumer said. "The effort by others to amplify and burnish his ludicrous claims of fraud is equally revolting. This is America. We have elections. We have results. We make arguments based on fact and reason — not conspiracy and fantasy." The objections from GOP members are highly unlikely to succeed. For one to be sustained and a state's presidential vote thrown out, a majority in each chamber has to vote to agree to the objection. The Democrats hold a majority in the House, and while Republicans have a slim majority in the Senate, a number of moderate Republicans have already said they would not vote to toss out a state's votes. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., had privately urged Republican senators not to challenge the vote because it could put some vulnerable Republicans at odds with fervent Trump supporters. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., shrugged off Hawley's announcement, telling reporters she has "no doubt that on next Wednesday, a week from today, that Joe Biden will be confirmed by the acceptance of the vote of the Electoral College as the 46th president of the United States." Biden’s incoming White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, also showed no concern during a virtual briefing with reporters. “Congress will certify the results of this election as they do every four years,” Psaki said, adding: “This is merely a formality. It certainly should be treated as such." Despite the long-shot nature of the challenge, Hawley's objection could lead to a long day; Congress could debate for up to two hours on objections to each states' results before members vote. Hawley, who is considered a possible presidential candidate in 2024, did not say how many states' votes he would object to, but he suggested that Pennsylvania would be one of them. “I cannot vote to certify the Electoral College results on January 6 without raising the fact that some states, particularly Pennsylvania, failed to follow their own state election laws," Hawley said in a statement, echoing a claim made repeatedly by the president and rejected repeatedly by state and federal courts. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, blasted Hawley's announcement as "another baseless attempt by Trump’s enablers to undermine the will of the people." "Pennsylvania’s election was secure, legal & fair. Our electoral votes have been cast for Joe Biden & Kamala Harris," he wrote in a pair of tweets, adding that "people should know that any senator making declarations about challenging Pennsylvania’s election result is performing political theater for Donald Trump, not following any facts or laws." Outgoing Rep. Denver Riggleman, R-Va., slammed Hawley and members of their party in the House who planned to mount objections. "All this is based on disinformation and conspiracy theories," Riggleman said in an interview with MSNBC's Kasie Hunt, blasting his colleagues for "throwing away federalism" for "really a baseline of disinformation and ridiculousness." "When does a scam become a coup?" he asked, adding, "You inject disinformation into the constituents and then use that disinformation as a rationalization to protest this. It's unbelievable, and it's how disinformation works, right?" "A lot of people are fundraising off of fantasy, and it comes a time you have to get more and more provocative to raise those funds," Riggleman continued. Hawley, he speculated, "is looking for a higher office. Maybe he's positioning for 2024. This is all just political. Has nothing to do on rule of law, has nothing to do on what's good for this country. It has to do with what's good for the individual" and "assuaging the Twitter mobs or assuaging a certain specific part of your electorate instead of doing what's right, and that's serving your country based on the Constitution." In his statement, Hawley tried to portray the extraordinary move as business as usual, saying, "I will follow the same practice Democrat members of Congress have in years past," pointing to the 2004 and 2016 elections. During the certification of the 2016 election results, several House Democrats attempted to object to the vote in a number of states, but they were ruled out of order by then-Vice President Biden, who noted that no senators had joined in their objections. After the 2004 election, then-Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, objected to Ohio's votes, charging there had been voter suppression because of long lines and missing voting machines in minority areas in the state. Then-Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., said those complaints were “outrage based on fantasy conspiracies” while the Bush White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, said, “It is time to move forward and not engage in conspiracy theories or partisan politics of this nature.” The measure failed in the Senate by a vote of 74-1 and in the House by a vote of 267-31. Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., took a dark view of Hawley's actions in an interview with MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell. “Josh Hawley and anyone who supports his effort are engaged in the attempted overthrow of democracy," Murphy said. "There is no evidence that there was any fraud. Sen. Hawley apparently believes that if a Democrat wins the presidential race, it must be illegitimate by definition, even absent any actual evidence of misbehavior."

An apology would be appreciated. Thank you. Activist (talk) 14:49, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Activist, apologies, I didn't realize that "private" was in the Yahoo News article that was cited right after the claim (https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-senator-object-electoral-college-181400746.html). Note that I'm not responsible for the deletion of that content, though; you may want to discuss that further in Talk:Josh Hawley if you'd like. Llightex (talk) 19:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, I've never made a mistake in my entire life (well, before today and yesterday...and...), so thanks. No problem. Activist (talk) 19:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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In reply to the CMW Piercy $900,000 issue it is stated in the biography of Swami Dayananda written by Padma Narasimhan (1990). Swami Dayananda Saraswati: The Traditional Teacher of Brahma Vidya. Chennai, India: T.T. Maps & Publications, ISBN 81-7053-103-9, that “One difference between our course (ie. Piercy) and the previous courses Swami Dayananda had taught in India was that there were no hired staff. All the staff were students from previous courses and the current students were their legion of helpers. Students were expected to work at least two hours a day, but most of us put in far more. We repaired and remodelled and maintained the building, kept the grounds, cooked, did the office work, published periodicals and texts, duplicated audio tapes of the classes, hosted the camps, created a library and somehow found time to study. There were those who had it on good authority that this was not the way it was done in a real Indian gurukulam - students there were supposed to study not work – but as Swamiji gently explained to us the sādhanā of gurusevā and the importance of having at the gurukulam only people who were totally committed to its purpose, most of the doubters began to accept the idea of combining study with work. This acceptance was of value later. No sooner had we been introduced to the idea of sannyāsah as a lifestyle, then we realised that we would not be able to live a lifestyle of sannyāsah after the course. A bhiksuh in America would be considered a bum, without even the benefit of doubt. We would have to live as householders, and fit study and teaching into the precious time that remained, as we had at the course”. Many students also paid regular dollar amounts for the upkeep, food etc of the gurukulam. The main administrator of the gurukulam, Carol Whitfield (Radha) who later founded the Arsha Kulam organisation, would be able to confirm this. The statement of $900,000 for student costs would appear to be false. Renlock (talk) 14:52, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing! The book seems interesting and I'd love to check out that book sometime. Llightex (talk) 20:27, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks for raising that. Are you aware of the background 10 years ago with Kauffner and the anti-Vietnamese names socks? There are 5 Vietnam bios, 1 Serbian tennis player, 1 Puerto Rican tennis player that are at odds with the rest of the modern bio article corpus. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi interesting, I was not aware. Can you link to the discussion / provide more context? Llightex (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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See [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nana.12255]. Doug Weller talk 20:13, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

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I'd also add that I strive to ensure all my changes on Wikipedia follow WP:NPOV, and in particular with the Linux Foundation article (for previous edits and edits going forward), my goal is to update longstanding issues with the article (such as outdated information, lack of references, huge amount of subheadings / lists on the article). Will propose these changes! Llightex (talk) 13:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

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I'm an independent contractor, so I think it's the former. Llightex (talk) 14:19, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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