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Napier

Hi, Your edits of Napier include continually removing a reference, if you have updated information you can add it with an accompanying appropriate reference, see the section of verifibility above. Regards. Hughesdarren (talk) 09:07, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Firstly let me apologise for my newness and inexperience on editing an article. But, as it was clearly wrong, I thought, for the sake of accuracy, I should fix it. Thank you for now agreeing to some of my updates, which I know to be correct as I am the previous owner of Napier Downs and am referred to in the article. I still have a few issues. One the location as 130km from Derby is correct, but it is NOT also 130km North of Fitzroy Crossing. If you look at a map, you will see this is impossible. There is no reference verifying this, so I assume that someone has just had a guess. It is actually approx. 150km North West of Fitzroy Crossing, which is what I tried to amend. The area of the lease is approx. 380,000 ha. I am not sure where you got the area that you have stated. The article that you refer to says it is It covers more than 400,000ha and carries about 20,000 head of red brahman cattle. That, in fact is not accurate, but it will do. The sale price was not disclosed and merely speculated by the article in Beef Central that you refer to. I wonder if anyone verifies the articles that are used as a ref. I know in the case of Beef Central it was not verified and they simply wrote the article with speculative information. The sale was actually completed in September 2015. The line... In 1910 Napier Downs occupied an area of 90,000 acres (364 km2) and was still owned by M. C. Davies... is also incorrect. I attempted to amend this but you have not allowed this. If you read the article that is referred to in the reference, it clearly says 900,000 acres and not 90,000. According to the pastoral lease, a copy of which I hold, it states that on 30th June 1969 the area of Napier Downs was 1,000,000 acres. I am happy to provide any further information and assist in the accuracy of this article. Leut1 (talk) 03:17, 4 September 2016 (UTC)Leut1 (talk) 03:38, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for replying - I have fixed what I can but the rest of the information that has a reference will stay. Wikipedia requires verifiability (see pillars above). I'm not too sure if you realise but 1 million acres is the same size as 4047km2 or 404700ha .... so the lease can't be both 380000ha and 1 million acres.... so I'll go with what the ref and the lease says on that one. No editors check references, unless two separate sources contradict each other or the sources themselves are inherently unreliable (like a blog, an advertisement abd perhaps Beef Central). Thanks for your offer of more information but unless accompanied by a reliable source it would be unlikely to be edited in. By the way, ff you do spot errors made like to 900,000 acre one then by all means do fix it but make a note in the comment that this is what th reference says. Regards Hughesdarren (talk) 03:59, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the amendments. Just to answer your comment about the lease size. The lease area has changed over the years by way of resumptions and boundary changes, whilst it was 1,000,000 acres in 1969 it has changed many times since. The current lease area is closer to 380,000 ha. It is actually 386,679. It is unlikely that you will find this confirmed in any news article. Leut1 (talk) 04:37, 4 September 2016 (UTC)Leut1 (talk) 04:38, 4 September 2016 (UTC)