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Hello, Leela872, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits to the page List of people from Detroit have not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and has been or will be removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or in other media. Always remember to provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles. Additionally, all new biographies of living people must contain at least one reliable source.

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List of people from Detroit edit

Hi, Leela. Sorry to say, I removed your edits on the above article. In order to be on a list like this, a person has to be notable (which is shown by having a biography to link to, and that was not the problem with your edits) and has to have a direct connection to the community in question. According to the guidelines for US community articles (WP:USCITY), that can mean the person either lives or has lived in the community for a significant time, or was born there. Obviously Eminem should be in the above article. The young lady from South Lyon shouldn't. The article is not for people from Metro Detroit, but Detroit proper. Also, it probably isn't a good idea to make a significant rearrangement of an established article unilaterally. Instead, post on the article's talk page saying why you think it should be re ordered. If no one disagrees after a week or so, then go ahead and reorder the article.

Please don't take getting your edits reverted personally. There are no chief editors here, we just all police each other's work. It's part of the process. If you disagree and can support your position with references, you should start a discussion on the article's talk page. If you need any help, you can always drop a note on my talk page. I'll also leave you a link to a Q & A forum just for new users. Happy editing! John from Idegon (talk) 15:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Additionally, if someone removes a change you've made, replacing it is not appropriate without discussion. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 15:35, 19 April 2017 (UTC)Reply


Hi, John. Sorry to say, I have no idea what "young lady from South Lyon" you are talking about. And I did not remove Eminem from that list, I removed Eminem from the section where he was incorrectly listed with visual artists artists like painters and sculptors, and left Eminem where he is listed correctly with other musicians. Please don't take my correcting your mistake personally. If you disagree with categorizing Eminem as a music artist and instead believe Eminem is better categorized as a visual artist, and you can support your position with references, you should start a discussion on the article's talk page. Happy editing! -- Leela

My apologies. Apparently Eminem was listed twice? However, Anita Cochran, whom you either added or moved is from South Lyon, not Detroit. And again, changing the layout of an established article requires consensus, which you do not have. Wikipedia may be the encyclopedia anyone can edit, but that does not in any way imply you can do it in any way you wish. The are numerous guidelines, policies and procedures that are followed here and it takes time to learn them. I doubt there would be a large objection to your changes, but someone laid it out that way originally. It isn't up to me or any other editor to defend the status quo, it's up to someone wanting change to defend their changes. When you post a message on a talk page, it's required you sign it by typing four tildes. That adds your name with a link to your talk page and a time stamp. Also, snark is generally not helpful. Editing here is not simple and I'm trying to help. This is a collaborative project. Working together is not optional. Try to work together please. John from Idegon (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi, John. I have created, as you asked, sections on the article talk page where you can discuss your objections to my changes to the "List of people from Detroit". Thanks. Leela872 (talk) 16:32, 19 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse! edit

 
Hello! Leela872, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! John from Idegon (talk) 15:30, 19 April 2017 (UTC)Reply


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