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Hi! I note that you recently moved your userpage from User:Kseferovic to Kseferovic. This was nominated for deletion, because the main article space is not the place for userpages. I've gone ahead and put things back the way they were before your move. If you have any questions, please review the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kseferovic.

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Bosanska Dubica

Ok, I will translate the article as soon as I can. Greetings, --Dantadd 18:52, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello. You ask in de: a bot for help ;-). Others and I are trying to fix this articel at the moment, thanks for yor translation :-). --DaB. 00:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

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It would be a lot better if you upload a photograph you personally took. That would be great. We probably can't use that photo, as unless we the photographer stated that it was available under a free license(like the GFDL), we can't use it. I look forward to seeing the image you take when you visit the location. Thanks for your work in Wikipedia! JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikivijesti

Glasao sam za otvaranje ovog Wikivjesti projekta na bosanskom jeziku koji si poceo na meti. Javicu i ostalima da glasaju kako smo vec jednom glasali o ovome na Carsiji. Cestitam na proaktivnosti. --Dado 02:50, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

IE7 Userbox.

Generally userboxes should have "User blablabla" (ie "User Internet Explorer 7") so I've copied the userbox to {{User Internet Explorer 7}}. You can always delete or redirect the old. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 02:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Crazyness. You're right, but I still think "Internet Explorer 7" sounds better than "Windows Internet Explorer 7" :) In the end, it's about the same. Have it your way if you wish ;p --Disavian 22:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

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Iron Curtain

Yes, Yugoslavia should be a third colour, as it wasn't part of either bloc. Citizens of the SFRY weren't prevented from travelling by their own government and as far as I know the passport was accepted in all of Western (and Eastern) Europe. Also, I've never seen Yugoslavia shown behind the Iron Curtain on any map outside of Wikipedia. Wikipedia shouldn't be making its own definitions, and even if it were, the SFRJ should not be shown as being behind the Iron Curtain. --estavisti 21:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
E, ova karta je 100% kako treba da bude. Ko to kaže da Srbi i Bošnjaci ne mogu dobro surađivati :P --estavisti 00:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC) Both American and British English are equally valid on English Wikipedia. --estavisti 13:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Oprostite

Ali pogledajte Bosnian language. Ja sam samo definirao ono sto pise u Bosanskome pravilnom pisanju. Pise da se koriste i latinica i cirilica. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Bosnian language uses both Latin and Cyrillic alphabets; from Bosnian language.

Ease down! This is wikipedia. I will contribute where I can. People do not own something in here. Only one bit of the Serbian language is ekav (that in Serbia); the Serbs in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro and most od the diaspora use the ijekav dialect (that's over 2,000,000 Serbs; almost 3,000,000; actually)

The Croatian language also uses (partly) ekav, but it isn't official. So, we don't mention it. The Cyrillic scrypt is used in Bosnia and Herzegovina only nominally (and officially), therefore, it must be mentioned in the Template.

You said on my talk page: [As a side note] Srpsko-Hrvatski is an extinct language, no one wants Yugoslavia again, espacially the Serbs (starting from Gazimestan). They are the ones that screwed it all up. Give it up!

No idea what you meant with this personal attack. I'm not from Gazimestan, not from Serbia. The Serbo-Croatian will never be extinct, as the whole world says (Brockhaus' wikipedia, Infoplease and even wikipedia) The mere reason is romantic nationalism which made every nation have its own language like in the 19th century. The Serbs and Croats are free to choose whatever they want a name for thweir language to be, but illogical fallacy is to claim that their languages are not one. Sincerely. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Bosanska Dubica

Hi Kseferovic, I replied to your posting at Diskussion:Kozarska Dubica. --Flominator 19:33, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

... and on Benutzer Diskussion:Flominator --Flominator 11:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for you post on my talk page. To short it: Do you have any idea, how I can form the text neutral? Do you have any proof, where Germany uses the term? Thanks for your research! --Flominator 19:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

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First of all, I can't be a Serb nationalist (out of various reasons that, you'll forgive me, I can't really shear with You).

I find this Bosniak language thingy ridiculous. Croatia is really killin' me sometimes :D I'm sorry, but I can't really believe that you can't read cyrillics. The only people that can't from ex Yugo are either very, very younf and imature children (which I belive that you are not) and people that are uneducated, pardon my expression. I've read the grammatics and several issues on the Bosnian language, and it is evident that both are official. How is it so hard for you to understand? If you don't know it, then you're lacking education in the Bosnian language (maybe a 1 or perhaps 2 you should put). However, considering the circumbstances, you should most probably put the Croatian language template.

User:Emir_Arven, a proud Bosnikm has been removing Serbian from the Serbian cyrillic on every article regarding the Serbs claiming that the cyrillic is not only Serbian, but Bosnian too. The fact that the Bosnian language prefers Latin has nothing to do with it. The Serbian language prefers Cyrillic, the same situation.

The Serbian thingy is clearly an error. I'm correcting it right now. Note that the newspapers in Serbia and the websites are all in Cyrillic. And yet, both Latin is official and in very much a use (especially in Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina; Croatia too). --HolyRomanEmperor 19:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

You might also find it interesting that the Bosnian wiki is in slow progress and that they will most definately add the Cyrillic version for every article soon (it took the Serbian Wikipedians to bring up the Latin and iekav dialect ages). --HolyRomanEmperor 19:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

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Also, if you don't understand the cyrillic scrypt, how do you think that you alone influence the entire language? The Cyrillic scypt's vague in RS too, it's only forced until recently; but unless you're a higher being that can willingly change the constituion of BiH or influence the minds of Bosnians, I suggest that you search up something more to verify your claims. :))) --HolyRomanEmperor 21:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

May I know where did you go to school, if it's not a problem?

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You acused me to Emir Arven of saying bad things, but I only stated that he was defending the Cyrillic scrypt from Serbinization. Why did you interpret it that way? --HolyRomanEmperor 13:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't mind it. :) He was only trying to stop the Serbinization of the Cyrillic scrypt in former Yugo. --HolyRomanEmperor 18:45, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

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Just out of curiosity, why are you glad that you can't read the Cyrillic scrypt? Isn't knowlegde appreciated? --HolyRomanEmperor 18:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Pitanje...?

Yes, Montenegrins have decided and are using the Latin scipts instead of the Cyrillic script. Also, the Montenegrin Independence will be on May 21, depending if Montenegrins choose to split from Serbia in the referendum. I want Montenegro to be independent. Ako Bogda da Crna Gora će biti nezavisna. Also, if you had a large dispute with HRE, then vote on his RfA and mention that. That would be helpful for you. Also, you two shouldn't have had that dispute in the first place because you guys should've put cyrillic and latin on the templates because of the Bosnian Serbs (Serbs use the Cyrillic script rather than the Latin script) and the Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks) and Bosnian Croats. You know what I'm saying. CrnaGora (Talk | Contribs | E-mail) 19:31, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you on that. I forgot that Bosnian Serbs actually talk Serbian and not Bosnian. Good point on that, why would Bosnians need to know the Cyrillic script. Only Bosnian Serbs use Cyrillic because they speak Serbian, so why should other Bosnians have to do that. I personally hate the Cyrillic script because of all the letters, it's very tricky to understand. CrnaGora (Talk | Contribs | E-mail) 19:44, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: I understand your point...

Historically, the Montenegrin language has always existed (even though it was considered for a long time Serbian) - you can't change dialect. And historically, the Cyrillic scrypt was the only scrypt in usage. However, the Montenegrin language linguists chose to use the Latin scrypt instead. Both scrypts will be official, but the Latin would be used just like in BiH. I consider it as a heading to return to the Latinized period of Duklja.

The only problem is that there's a little controvesry - official forming of the Montenegrin people's Language is still in progress, and the pro-independency parties in Montenegro (that choose Montenegrin over Serbian) use the Cyrillic scrypt instead. Like the party of Milo Djukanovich. Although when the Montenegrin language will finally be officialized, there is no controversy over the fact that the Latin scrypt would be the main, the problem is that the Cyrillic scrypt is still the main in usage in the Republic of Montenegro. --HolyRomanEmperor 19:56, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I ja bih htio da Crna Gora postane svojstvena drzava, ko sto je i bila prije 1918. Nije pitanje da li su Crnogorci Srbi, srpskog porijekla ili nijesu Srbi uopce, no Crnoj Gori je sve krenulo lose od 1920s pa do danas. Prije joj je islo dobro, iako je bila zemlja sa najmanjim brojem stanovnika na svijetu - sto jos uvecava njena cuda. --HolyRomanEmperor 20:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Most of my education I received in Montenegro and Croatia. My "touchy" :) additude towards the Cyrillic is because I am currently staying in Belgrade. --HolyRomanEmperor 21:06, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

From zemljak to zemljak

So lovely to see other Bosnians on Wikipedia! Greetings sa lijepog plavog dunava, nepTune 21:20, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

code

Hi Kseferovic, not sure if the code is yours, but I was wondering if it is ok if I copy a part of the code from your main page, that makes the flags wave around, and showing the wikipedia info? I would appreciate it. Ilir pz 21:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Crna Gora

Samo, plasim se ovih situacija - ako Crna Gora dobije nezavisnost, doci ce do egzodusa crnogoraca u Srbiji - kojih ima vise od 270,000. Ako do toga dodje, ne samo da ce se poremetiti cijeli sistem, jer ce Crna Gora morati da se suoci sa viskom stanovnistva a Srbija s manjkom, nego ce Srbi postati vecinsko stanovnistvo Crne Gore. Sto ti mislis o toj temi? --HolyRomanEmperor 13:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

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Re:Crna Gora

Problem je sto tih 270,000 vrnogorskih gradjana 'nisu' gradjani Republike Srbije. Skoro 50% Srbijine vlade cine ti gradjani. Kada bi se Drzavna Zajednica raspala, sto bi oni radili? Mislis da bi vlada olako dala 260,000 gradjana domovnice? - svi bi postali "turisti" Srbije. Cak i da bi to bilo u mogucnosti, koliko bi trajalo to izvlacenje domovnica? Jedini im bi bio izbor da se vrate u Crnu Goru - sto stvara probleme koje sam vec naveo (overpopulacija, Srbi smenjuju Crnogorce kao najbrojniji narod). --HolyRomanEmperor 10:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Nema problema

Ne smeta meni ta reč, smeta mi slika, ali nisam hteo da je diram. Bosanski ljiljan nikako ne bi bio prikladan, čak ni kad bi se ukinula Republika Srpska. To je simbol Bosnjaka. A sta je sa Srbima i Hrvatima? Imaj razumevanja, i oni zive tamo, lepo promeni sliku, pa ću i ja staviti šablon na moju stranicu. Pozdrav,

--serbiana - talk 03:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

S obzirom da se razumem u grafiku, sta kazes da ja napravim neku zastavu sa ljiljanima, ali i sa simbolima Srba i Hrvata, pa da tu zastavu stavimo u sablon. Bice to nesto sasvim novo na ovoj Vikipediji, mozda se nekom i svidi. Jel' moze? --serbiana - talk 03:39, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Brate, proucicu istoriju, pohvatacu simbole; potrajace posao, ali mislim da cu za nedelju dana smisliti nesto... :-) --serbiana - talk 03:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Imam dosta knjiga o nacionalnim simbolima Srba, to me ne brine, za Bosnjake smo se dogovorili za ljiljan, a za Hrvate cu se raspitati. Mozda odem u petak u Croatian Cultural Centre ovde u Vankuveru, pa da me oni malo nesto nauce o tome (ne bih bas sahovnicu da stavljam, to mi je vise 20. vek koliko ja znam). Pokusacu napraviti zastavu koja ce pojedinacno predstavljati sve narode u Bosni, ali i Bosnu kao jedinstvenu multi-etnicku drzavu kao sto je nekad bila, ali nazalost, upropascena zbog nacionalizma sa svih strana. --serbiana - talk 04:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, evo ovako: Ja cu da nadjem sve zive simbole koje znam, otici cu u Croat. C.C., nije moguce da im je prvi simbol Sahovnica, mora da ima nesto i pre, sahovnicu necu nikako na zastavi, to ni nije simbol, to je... pa... obicna tabla za sah. Nije da vredjam hrvatske simbole, ali simbol nam je malo dosadan... Nece biti tri simbola u jednom, pokusacu nekako naci sredinu u svemu tome. Sada idem da spavam, pricacemo vise tokom nedelje. Laku noc, --serbiana - talk 04:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm...

...raspitah ze sa simbole Hrvata Bosne i Hercegovine, no sve sto sam vidio (i cuo od njih) je ona (izmjenjena) sahovnica Bosne i Hercegovine. (kao na Herzeg-Bosnia, a ne kao na Croatia). --HolyRomanEmperor 14:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I nisam siguran da li bi bilo dobro Srbe oznaciti crvenom bojom a Hrvate plavom - kroz historiju, (u etnickim kartama se tako vidi), Plavo je oznacavalo Srbe a crveno Hrvate - bas kao sto je Crveno oznacavalo Rimokatolicku crkvu, a plavo Istocno(srpsko)pravoslavnu. Tim sistemom su i isle srpsko-hrvatske zastave - koje su postale uzor jugoslovenskim crvenim-plavim-bijelim. --HolyRomanEmperor 14:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Prva zastava na First Set of Proposals nije losa, ali ja bih zamijenio mjesta zelene i plave boje (nekako da ispada da su muslimani u sredi, izmedju). --HolyRomanEmperor 14:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Jako je zalosno...

to sto se dogodilo Bosni. Sa preko 98% Slavenskoga stanovnistva BiH je bila uvijek (a i ostala) najslovenskija drzava na svijetu - s kulturalne tacke gledista, ni jedna jedina slovenska zemlja nije toliko kulturnih zastavstina ostavila (stecci) koliko Bosna. Bosna je istovremeno u svojoj historiji bila najveci srpski kulturni centar, bila je i hrvatski kulturni centar, a bila je i ostala drzava Slavenskih muslimana. To sto se dogodilo Bosni je u krajnjoj mjeru zalosno, jer u nijednom drugom mjestu (bivse Yu) Musliman (tj, Bosnjak), Srbin i Hrvat nije nikada bio blizi. --HolyRomanEmperor 11:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

the bosnian war

the bosnian war was very tragic. my good friend kseferovic had to deal with those hard times. I FEEL LIKE CRYING

Please do not vandalize on my page, thank you. --Kseferovic 23:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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O, moj Bože, koja prostačina... Ignoriši ga, Kseferović... Inače, dogovorio sam se sa jednim Antunom da mi u petak pomogne oko nalaženja prikladnog hrvatskog simbola za zastavu koju sklapam, pa se nadam da će ovog vikenda biti gotova... Poslaću nekoliko predloga, pa da izaberemo najbolji i stavimo u template. Neće biti verskih simbola, ne brini... --serbiana - talk 00:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

U principu ne treba ništa brisati, ali možeš arhivirati stranicu, ili prebaciti ovu poruku u User:Kseferovic/insults, pa ne napraviti ni jedan link ka toj stranici, tako ja rešavam ove probleme ;-) --serbiana - talk 02:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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Ne, vandalizam se odmah brise i brise sto je prijo mogucno. Na talk page-u koristnika koji je to pisao na tvojoj (ili bilo kojoj drugoj) stranici trebas staviti "

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thank you. " i potpisati se, prirodno. Ako taj korisnik pravi previse problema, treba ga prijaviti na Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (uputstva su tu). Za vise informacija, procitaj Wikipedia:Vandalism.

Nadam se da sam pomogao; pozdrav! --HolyRomanEmperor 21:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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Ja se koristim self-determination right i izjasnjavam se k'o Jugoslaven. Je si li znao za ovo (kada smo vec kod Jugoslavena): 1918 je 49 od 54 kantona Bosne i Hercegovine izglasalo prikljucenje Kraljevini Srbiji. Mjesec dana nakon toga stvorena je velika Kraljevina Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca. Najvise je ostecen muslimanski zivalj, jer je Islamsko plemstvo ukinuto, a posjedi razdijeljeni jednako narodu (time Srbi dobise najvise, a Muslimanski Jugosloveni najmanje). U Bosni i Hercegovini je konacno poceo progres pod Kraljem Petrom I Karadjordjevicem - ali u sporijem rate-u nego u Srbiji. Kraljevska vlast je zavodila centralizam BiH-a od Beograda i oslanjala se na konstitutivnu vecinu Srba i Hrvata (preko dvije trecine lokalnoga stanovnistva). Muslomanska populacija je dobila narodnost, ali samo kao nacionalna manjina - Muslimanski Jugosloveni. Onda je 1929 godine stvorena Kraljevina Jugoslavija - i jedan narod proglasen (Jugosloveni). Kralj Aleksandar je objedinio narode i nacionalnosti; i istinski, prvi i poslijednji put u historiji od dolaska Osmanlija - Bosna je bila istisnki mirna Bosna u 1929-1939. --HolyRomanEmperor 22:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

The Šablon

Ehh... ne znam šta im smetaju politički šabloni... Ali dobro, razmisliću malo da li da nastavim sa pravljenjem zastave, pitaću neke druge korisnike da li ima svrhe truditi se oko toga... --serbiana - talk 23:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey...

I didn't check Wikipedia 'til today, so I could not get her cell phone, but I got a new one and you can call me.

Bmaganti 01:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

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Your map...

...the Iron Curtain map that you created is partially wrong - I think I should inform you so that you can change it. For instance, Austria is a problem - it was divided like Germany - the main part in the Warsow East and the rest in the NATO West. Any chance of correcting it? Additionally, since the Second Austrian Republic's creation with the uniting of those occupied regions, Austria became a neutral state between the two sides - just like Switzerland was the whole Cold War (you painted it blue as well). --HolyRomanEmperor 19:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't want to bother you, but I suggest that you but the neutral states gray - since it's the standard colour of all "not-in-subject states" on maps, while Yugoslavia should be painted I don't know... yellow, pink... because it was a part of a block - the Third Block (Nesvrstani). Those other states were just neutral states with closed borders during the Cold War. However, there's this problem - you can present the map like it was before 1955 (Austria divided between NATO and Warsow) or after (Austria neutral). You will have to decide. Oh, and while you're at it, Finland, Sweden and Ireland were/are all neutral as well. Cheers my friend. Tell me what you decided. --HolyRomanEmperor 22:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Deal

Do not forget the deal that was mentioned earlier...

Bmaganti 22:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Image Animations

http://freespace.virgin.net/george.gdingwall/pages/flagtutorial.html

Go to this website, it gives a detailed overview of how to animate a flag.

Bmaganti 22:44, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Opel and Cellphone service fees

I noticed you used these two as factors indicating how developed a country is, talking here. To respond to your points seems like Mercedes-Benz has an office in ALbania. But what kind of indication of "being ahead" or not is having a car industry's website of a country, KSeferovic? And prices of cellphone services? I am not saying that Albania or Bosnia are forward, but there could be more credible indicators than these that you compare, I suppose. I've been to Albania several times for summer holidays, and I think your idea of Hoxha's type of Albania is a really wrong one. Reforms have taken place for some years in Albania now. Times change. I am sure that if you estimate carefully the war in Bosnia did cause more damage to it than Enver Hoxha did to Albania for 40 years, if you want to compare that way. Don't you agree? I would want both Bosnia and Albania to prosper and be a part of EU. ilir_pz 23:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Kosovo

Jao, batko, razočarao si me... A imao sam tako lepo mišljenje o tebi. Čak sam se i zagrejao za ujedinjenje Bosne i Hercegovine. Mislio sam da si za to da narodi žive zajedno, a onda pročitam da si za nezavisnost Kosova. --serbiana - talk 01:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, nisi mi neprijatelj, daleko od toga. Mislim da si dobar čovek, ali neke stvari ne shvataš. Da li si čuo za državu po imenu Albanija? Južno od Srbije i Crne Gore, zapadno od Makedonije (ima jedan vic o tome, malo je vulgaran, Makedonci kažu: "Jebeš državu kojoj je Albanija zapad"), nadam se da si čuo za tu državu. E, većina ljudi na Kosovu su Albanci. Pa većina ljudi u RS su Srbi. Desilo se etničko čišćenje i u RS od strane Srba i od Muslimana, desilo se etničko čišćenje i od Srba i od Albanaca. Zašto da BiH bude zajedno, a Kosovo i Srbija ne? --serbiana - talk 02:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Bojim se da grešiš, prijatelju. Samo Albanci smatraju Kosovo odvojeno od Srbije i to samo u 20. veku. Pre Drugog svetskog rata, Srbi su činili većinu u Kosovu, ali s obzirom da je Albanija bila na strani Nemaca, Srbi su proterani sa Kosova. Posle rata, Tito je odlučio da ne otera Albance sa Kosova, već je promovisao svoju ideju Bratsva i jedinstva na taj način. Albanci su od početka tražili nezavisnost i pripajanje matici Albaniji. Evo, molim te, pročitaj ovaj članak. Sledeći put malo prouči istoriju pre pravljenja lažnih konstatacija, hvala. --serbiana - talk 03:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Borise, Kosovo was separated from Albania as a region even during the Ottoman Empire, and was treated as separate, if you look at it like that. And eversince Albanians fought to change that, as it was imposed by Ottomans. The clanak you are referring to, isn't it written by Serbian editors? how reliable a source is that? Furthermore, I do not think you should dislike someone because they recognize what most of the international community has: that after all this that happened in Kosovo, there is no alternative to the independence of Kosovo. Pozdrav, ilir_pz 09:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

GPRS/GPS

Moglo bi te zanimat: GPRS nije isto što i GPS. Dapače, jedno s drugim nema nikakve veze. GPRS je način izmjene podataka preko bežične telefonije (i to većina mreža ima iako neke nemaju), a GPS je sistem koji služi za određivanje trenutne pozicije pomoću satelita (i to funkcionira bez ikakve mobilne telefonije svugdje na svijetu). Nemoj mislit da se pravim pametan, samo sam zaposlen kao programer u auto-navigacijskoj firmi pa znam da ljudi često miješaju ta dva pojma isključivo zbog slične kratice i zbog ničeg drugog. Dakle, samo te informiram i ne mislim ništa loše pa se nadam da se nećeš uvrijediti. Pozdrav! Jakiša Tomić 19:26, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Kosovo

Ako tražiš od Albanca istoriju Kosova, dobićeš onakvu kakva njima odgovara. Ako tražiš od Srbina istoriju Kosova, dobićeš onakvu kakva njima odgovara. Prvi stanovnici Kosova su bili Iliri. Albanci danas tvrde da su oni potomci Ilira, Srbi to negiraju i tvrde da su se Albanci tamo pojavili tek u srednjem veku. Evo, ja, kao polu-Hrvat, polu-Srbin, dajem tebi jedan link sa člankom, koji je, za razliku od onog na sr wiki, mnogo neutralniji, a i jednostavan za razumeti, pa ti sam odluči ko je u pravu:

• Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo

Dakle, stvar nije toliko jednostavna, kao "Kosovo je naše" ili "Ne, Kosovo nije vaše, naše je". Stvar je u tome da je Kosovo sada deo Srbije, Srbi nisu prvi počeli haose i napade, Albanci su ti koji su se hteli odvojiti, iako su imali široku autonomiju, svoju vlast, svog predsednika, kao republika. To im nije bilo dovoljno, pa su čim je Tito umro, još 1981. godine, organizovali pobunu. U suštini, ko je prvi bio na Kosovu, ili čije je Kosovo bilo duže, nije ni toliko bitno. Bitno je da su Albanci hteli da se odvoje, Srbi im nisu dali, došlo je do krvi. Šta će sada biti, sam Bog zna, ali imaj u vidu da RATA NE BI BILO DA ALBANCI NISU HTELI DA SE ODVOJE. Thats the simple part. --serbiana - talk 22:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

The simple part you mention, that because Albanians wanted to separate Kosovo from Serbia, and that triggered the war, is the most complicated issue, Boris. The war in Kosovo was imposed to Albanians, if you must know. There were more than 15 years of peaceful resistance taking place in Kosovo, until Sloba took more harsh measures. 1981 protests were legitimate. Kosovo with more than 85% Albanians back then had no right for a status of a Republic, whereas all other republics which were much more mixed received that from Tito. In 1989 Sloba removed even that little autonomy Kosovo had, and installed a military regime. What do you expect to happen after more than 15 years of apartheid, torture, being banned from schools and universities(I spent 4 years in houses studying in a "high-school"), all documentation made cyrillic, no public tv or radio in Albanian, and what not ?!

But let us not get that far. My only argument to "nase" or "vase" referring to Kosovo is: Kosovo belongs to those who live in it. Those who do not will move, just like I moved from one city to another in Kosovo itself, or lived abroad for some time. The free will of people should be respected. I agree with your statement, that history is manipulated with. Thus, I do not believe in history at all. ilir_pz 00:14, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Ilir, the first part is a complete lie. In 1981. when the first rebelion took place, Slobodan Milosevic was an unknown banker working who knows where. Why should Kosovo had been a republic? What was so disgusting about living with Serbs? Were you really opressed? Or was it something else... Kosovo had its own government, police, president. It had a vote in SFRY, it could vote against Serbia. The stuff that happened when Slobodan came to power is a pity, but it had to happen. And I'm sad that it did happen. But if Kosovo was a republic inside of SFRY, you guys would've separated a long time ago - you're not slavic, and the country's name was Yugoslavia. Peacefull resistance? Haha, well of course, Tito didn't allow anyone to say a word against him, let alone organizing protests or terrorist organizations! And guess what, the moment he died, the peacefull protests ended and violence started, what a coincidence. You guys must have waited for that for a long time... So what if not everything was in Albanian? You still spoke Albanian, I'm sure you could buy books in Albanian... Thats how it is when you're an ethnic minority, and the Albanians were an ethnic minority. But no, you wanted your own country where you could be a majority, too bad you didn't already have that. Oh, wait, yes you did, I think its called Albania, or something like that. Well, Albania was too little I guess, and Kosovo ain't big enough for the both of us. Whatever happened in the last 15 years is horrible, but is a result of the Albanian separatist movement. The only reason Slobodan Milosevic came to power, were the Albanians. You guys helped him to get power, and by boycotting elections, you helped him to stay in power. So, who is to blame? Nationalist Slobodan Milosevic, who was only hungry for power, and didn't care about people's lives? Sure! But why did he come to power? What was the issue that made Serbs go "Slobo! Slobo! Slobo!"? Kosovo! Albanians in Kosovo! Not because Serbs didn't like them or anything like that, because you wanted separation. Free will? Were you in jails (I'm talking about pre-Milosevic)? Were you slaves to wealthy Serb sugar cane plantation owners? I don't think so, I think the Albanians had just as much rights as Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, and all the other people in Yugoslavia. But you wanted more. Well, you're gonna get it, but at what cost? --serbiana - talk 00:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid I do not have much time to answer to so many unclear questions in your head, Boris. You obviously are not informed well. I will answer to you in my personal page, no need to both Kseferovic here. Calling someone a liar is not good, Boris. You rushed in your judgement and misinterpretation of what I said. ilir_pz 00:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm sad that you don't want to continue this conversation here, maybe you don't want Kseferovic to actually learn something about Kosovo which isn't Albanian propaganda. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm trying to say that the information in your head which you think is true - is a lie. I'm not misinterpreting anything here, I'm stating the facts as they are. There is a movie called "pozdravi sa Kosova", I'm not sure how they translated it into Albanian, it's a Serbo-Albanian movie about Kosovo and the role of the media in the conflict. Its quite interesting, I'll try to find it for you (since I couldn't find "Does Anyone Have a Plan?", searched everywhere for it...). --serbiana - talk 01:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

If Kseferovic is interested, I would sure continue here. I need to hear his "go ahead" ilir_pz 10:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

You guys...

Hey you both should check this video. It was made after the Yugoslav wars. They are in Bosnian (Croatian). Just to tell you they are not biased. This is since there are interviews from all three sides. Also there is a really long part on Kosova and Serbia.

Please check it out:

(I hope you guys have broadband connections):

• http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4107252286446999312&q=Yugoslavia

There is also a second part for which you can ask me to send you the link.

Thanks, Kseferovic 02:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen all parts of this documentary, thanks for the link. ilir_pz 10:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, I have watched The Death Of Yugoslavia a bunch of times, and have analysed it to death. I'll wait till Ilir watches it, so we can talk about it. I'd just like to add that it is biased a little, but better than most documentaries. --serbiana - talk 02:22, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

While Ilir is watching this movie, I'd like to ask you to watch another movie. I'm talking about the American movie: Yugoslavia - the Avoidable War. It kinda puts a spin on the whole issue, focuses more on the international response, and less on the conflicts of the "primitivni Balkanci". It shows, in a slightly biased way, how the whole thing is much more complicated than CNN likes to present it.

• "Yugoslavia:The Avoidable War, Part 1"

• "Yugoslavia:The Avoidable War, Part 2"

Peace. --serbiana - talk 02:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Albania

Was that you? You left your message unsigned. Well, it is not true that Albania is ahaid of Bosnia and Serbia in joining the EU, but it is very much correct that it's ahead in many, many things - while its backward on many others. Did you ever see Tirana, for instance? The City is by far one of the most beautiful that I have ever seen, and it simply beames with art from the romantic nationalist age and Medieval-style architecture. By far, one of the most beautiful European metropolises, and most certainly among the prettiest in the Balkan peninsular. --HolyRomanEmperor 06:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Albania's main errors are several - overexceeding organized crime and high-graded corruption (almost as high as in Ukraine or Moldova) and too big nationalist tendencies (this wouldn't be a problem if there was no Kosovo - the fear of an territorially expanded Albania is there). Other than this, it is only European typical steretypics towards Albanians (because they are slightly different than most of their neighbours or other Europeans) and Muslims in general (remeber Turkey?) that's blocking Albania from Europe.

P. S. Why don't you make a World Map for the Cold War? --HolyRomanEmperor 07:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

hehe HRE, you do have some good info, but some are exaggerated. And living in Belgrade, I am not surprised that you think so. First of all, Albanians in Albania are one of the least nationalists nations in the whole Balkans. Crime and corruption exists like everywhere in the Balkans, but PM Berisha has received good evaluations on his attempts to erradicate that. Comparing it to Moldova is offensive, if you don't know the real facts. We all know where tereotypes about Albanians have been cooked. One of the worst stereotypes I once heard, that Albanians have tails. It was funny when I studied in an international environment, some Serb asked me "I thought Albanians should be not tall, and rather blondish, and without mustache"...horrible. HRE, get updated on Albania's current political situation. It is far from what you think. ilir_pz 10:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

No, no and no. I never said what Albanians are - they could all as nice as cittens or as crude as Hitler's clones - no idea. That is simply what Europe thinks, be it true or not. What on Earth are you talking about, Ilir pz?

Sorry, Kseferovic, for using your talk page to reply. Oh, and Ilir, you've been wiki-stalking me. ;) --HolyRomanEmperor 09:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

"what Europe thinks" ??? that is some claim, HRE. I´ve travelled all around Europe, and most of the contacts I had I wanted to confirm this "what Europe thinks" and most of them just remembered the war and the bombing, and none ever heard of Albanian bad stories before. I am not sure about which Europe you are talking about. ilir_pz 14:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Kosovo

Evo, pitaj mene o Kosovu - ja sam ti (nazovi-)historicar (tj. neka vrsta). Na primjer, ja mislim da Kosovo kao suverena drzava ne bi bila dobra, i ne mogu to otvoreno da podrzim, bez podrzavanja novoga rata u Bosni i Hercegovini (tj, BiH-ovo rasturanje). Selam Alejkum! --HolyRomanEmperor 09:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to ask me as well, Kseferovic. I am not a historian, but I can tell you what you need from 1980 and on. For the information previous to that I cannot speculate with the documents that Balkans historians adapted according to their needs. I do not see how Kosovo is related to a new bloodshed in Bosnia, HRE. And I think that independence to Kosovo is the only solution to the crisis in the region, and the rest of Balkans. That has been acknowledged by many from the international community. Only the Serbian regime is hesitating, but I think that is temporary, as they know the reality as well. They are just trying to get the best out of negotiations, by having extreme demands. For some (rather neutral opinions) see Otvoreno where Serbian politicians admit the facts about Kosovo , and here you can see some information as well. ilir_pz 14:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Kseferovic, thanks for dropping a line in my talk page. Situation in Kosovo now is better than it ever was in its history. The democratic institutions are building up, and getting stronger and stronger. And the awareness that there is no alternative to the independence for Kosovo is increasing in the international community. Now it is not the question if, but when will the independence of Kosovo be formally recognized, this or in the beginning of the next year. As far as Montenegro's independence referendum is concerned, if Montenegro seceedes that is another reason why Kosovo should not be in any kind of federation with Serbia, as its closest allies EVER are leaving that federation. Not sure what you meant by "will the situation cool down". If you explain I might be able to answer to that part. ilir_pz 15:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hey

Ah, yes; I get you (regarding the Iron Curtain).

Yeah, it did (the movie). You liked it (and the book)? Glad that we share the same taste in art & literature. ;)

The disputes over Kosovo are age-old - and just like any geographical region that passes through a demographic turmoil, so was/is Kosovo threatened the you-know-which problems. Bosnia and Herzegovina is a comparation of the problem. Krajina in Croatia as well. Asia Minor - you name it. Ever since the Turkish invasion of the Balkan peninsular, controversies from a thousand sides stand (you live in jadna Bosna, so you know what I mean). Kosovo had its peaceful ages - certain periods of the Ottoman Viyalet of Kosova, the Kingdom of Serbia/Yugoslavia and some (not all) periods of the Communist Yugoslavia. Hopefully, peace will come again, as soon as the Vienna talks are over. However, if you have a specific question about Kosovo, I could give you an answer. Asking how things started is asking me to write a book.

Selam Alejkum! --HolyRomanEmperor 21:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

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I voted for Haris. ;) I feel bad though, we (you know whome I mean - from Istria to Skadar and from Zagorje to Kosovo) only exchanged votes, practicly voting for ourselves. :S --HolyRomanEmperor 21:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

OK

ja, I received your message. Vat happened to your images. I assume you are updating them as you mentioned. Dobra, Dobra. OK, ve vill talk later, ja?

Bmaganti 22:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, thanks for the image heads up, I have taken care of it. Bmaganti 03:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Montenegro

Thanks for separating Serbia and Montenegro in the EU member states article map; could you do the same for a number of other articles? Would be great. =] Just say if so, then I can give you a list. You should upload the new map on top of the old one, though, not under a new file name. —Nightstallion (?) 05:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Sure I'll do it (Change the maps) for all of the images. Just give me all of the article names and I will do it as soon as possible. Thanks, Kseferovic 11:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

It will take some time, though, since there's really a *lot* of maps to be updated, and not all are even categorised correctly... Another problem will be that we may run into trouble with people who think the maps should only be updated once Montenegro is entirely independent... We should probably wait until independence is offially proclaimed, aye? —Nightstallion (?) 11:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, are you sure your borders of Montenegro are correct? These are correct as far as I know, and they differ from yours... —Nightstallion (?) 18:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

One map I'd need update for one of "my" articles is this one. Apart from that, almost all location maps in the country and territory articles for Europe need updating, likely all maps in Category:Europe here *and* on the commons, and so on... —Nightstallion (?) 15:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Sarajevo Slike

Valjda je sve sada uredu sa slikama? :), ima doduše nešto oko ove: Image:Sarajevo_night.jpeg ali nerazumijem sta :) ... napiso sam da je fair use. Pozdrav Damir Mišić

Montenegrin referendum

Pa, prosao je bez teskoca (osim u Nikšiću, gdje su bili neredi). Prvo je bio rezultat 56.7%, then 55.4%, 55.1%, 55.3%, 55.2%. The Bloc for independence announced 58.3% and the Bloc for Union announced 54%-46%. Bilo je problema jer je 25,000 glasova bilo sporno - pa im je trebalo nekoliko dana, prakticno, da ih procesuiraju (znaci ni konacni 55.5%-44.5% nije konacan). Danas ujutro je trebalo da se objavi sto je s 19,000 neprocesuiranih glasova, ali se to jos nije dogodilo. Svetozar Marović je trebao da odavno podnese ostavku - ali konstanto odlaže zbog situacije. Ovaj Crnogorski referendum je čak i odložio sjednicu Vojvodine (jer su se plašili reakcije - Vojvodina je trebala praktično da donese ustav - a I Vojvodina I Crna Gora - pa to neće ići lako). --HolyRomanEmperor 14:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Samo mi je mnogo zao zbog Bošnjaka i ostalih Muslimana crnogorskog Sandžaka - prvo su lobirali za nezavisnost, a onda im je sinula jedna ideja - podijela Sandžaka - što je veoma protiv interesa Bosnjaka/Muslimana. Poceli su lobirati za zajednicu 2006, ali tada je vec bilo kasno (dobar dio Muslimana je glasao za Uniju i samo nekolicina Bosnjaka). --HolyRomanEmperor 15:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Takodjer mi je zao sto ve se sve ispaliti na nacionalne manjine - prvenstveno na Albance. Veci dio Srba/Crnogoraca je bio za drzavnu Uniju - i mnostvo mladog gradjanstva drugih naroda u Crnoj Gori (prvenstveno albanskog) je glasalo za nezavisnost. Ovo je dovelo cak do trenutka da (vjerujes mi ili ne) su neki organi vlasti priznali da ne mogu garantirati prava svih narodnosti. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

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Heh, kao sto rekoh - juce ujutro je trebala republicka komisija Crne Gore za referendum da (konacno) objavi zvanicne rezultate - no cutali su sv do danas, kada su rekli da nece znati/moci spekulisati kada ce rezultat biti poznat. Postoje cak i insinuacije da ce cijeli referendum biti ponovljen - kao sto ce ubrzo biti ponovljen na nekim mjestima, gdje su bile izvjesne neregularnosti. Sto se tice Bloka za Uniju - Havijer Solana je ostro osudio cinjenicu da je svih 200 prigovora na preliminarne rezultate odbijeno. Mnogo jos sta se moze dogoditi. Sto se tice Kosova - ne zelim da procijenjujem. Nezavisnost za Kosovo je vrlo mnogo vise trazena nego nezavisnost Crne Gore - no bojim se da je i utoliko neizvodiva. --HolyRomanEmperor 12:29, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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Od 1944 godine stoji alternativa za autonomiju Sandzaka - ta aftonomija je bila prisutna na neki nacin (barem kulturalno) sve do danas - i Sandzak je mjesto u svijetu, gdje su Muslimani bili najblizi Pravoslavcima. Postoje politicke partije koje traze autonomiju Sandzaka da bude ostvarena, dok neki cak i traze Republiku pralelnu Srbiji i Crnoj Gori u Drzavotvornoj Zajednici - a oni najekstremniji (Islamski fundamentalisti) traze nezavisnu drzavu Sandzak i/ili njeno sto tesnje povezivanje sa Bosnom i Hercegovinom. Oduvijek je postala teznja za povezivanje srbijanskoga sandzaka s crnogorskim - no, mislim da ako se odvoje ove dvije drzave - bilo kakve aspiracije Sandzackih Bosnjaka/Muslimana padaju u vodu - kao i vjerovatno njihova organizirana civilizacija ako ovako nastavi. Rasim Ljajić, a donekle i Emir Kusturica su izjavili posebno žaljenje. --HolyRomanEmperor 14:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Sarajevo pictures 2

Hello :) I had to remove two pictures from the sarajevo article that I had uploaded. This after I found out that "permission-pictures" are no longer allowed at wikipedia. But I pormise that I will find equally good by-wikipedia-accepted pictures. If you want to help the search visit this site it has several free pictures that you can use: www.flickr.com Damir Mišić

Kupres Republike Srpske

Vidim da si od mog članka "Kupres, Republika Srpska" napravio redirekt na "Kupres Republike Srpske", ali ovo ime je netačno. Prema sajtu vlade RS, službeni naziv opštine je samo "Kupres", a ja sam napisao "Kupres, Republika Srpska" da bi ga razlikovali od onog u Federaciji. Sadašnji naslov treba promeniti. PANONIAN (talk) 01:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Referendum

Nervira me to sto je bilo vise etnicki - Albanci su odlucili nezavisnost, jer je vise Crnogoraca/Srba glasalo za Zajednicu, nego Nezavisnost. I dalje mi je krivo, sto je 300,000 gradjana Crne Gore zabranjeno pravo glasa - od toga najmanje preko 100,000 legitimnih glasaca. Ironicno, to sto su crnogorske vlasti odlucile uopste nije bilo fer - ili demokratski, jedini problem je sto je bilo legitimno.

Ako se stvarno razdvoje Srbija i Crna Gora, nadam se da FBiH i RS nece - jer Republika Crna Gora ima nesto vise prava i osnova da rasformira drzavu od Republike Srpske. Jedino mi je strah u tome sto Kosovo imsa jos manje prava nego Srpska - a Kosovarski Albanci zele nezavisnost mnogo vise nego CG i RS zajedno. --HolyRomanEmperor 19:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

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Da - zajednica Srbije i Crne Gore je ustavno proglasena kao privremeni, 3-godisnji savez dvije (prakticno nezavisne) drzave. Ovdje je sve islo legitimno (mada mi se nimalo ne svidja Milosevicevska vlast u Crnoj Gori) - no Kosovo je druga prica. Bilo kakvo otcijepljenje Kosmeta od Srbije je protiv-ustavno - i esencijalno, nemoguce. Sama 1244 Rezolucija je donijela zakljucak da je Kosovo privremeno okupirani dio Savezne Republike Jugoslavije (tj. sada Drzavne Zajednice Srbija i Crna Gora), ciji ce konacan status biti rijesen pregovorima s obje strane (srpska i albanska). Zbog tog i raznih drugih razloga - Kosovo moze da ima bilo kakvu samoupravu/aftonomiju - ali je nezavisnost u krajnjoj mjeri nezamisliva. Ako i Kosovo postane drzava (sto je vrlo moguce), vjerujem da je dosao kraj tranziciji - i idemo opet u 1990-e. --HolyRomanEmperor 08:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

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No - otom/potom. Djukanovicev Blok se ovdje raspada, a i Crna Gora ce izgleda dovizjeti uskoro prve demokratske izbore u svojoj povijesti. Opozicija pod Srpskom Demokratskom Partijom uveliko vodi. Njihov nacrt je da promijene ustav tako da je glavni crnogorski narod definisan kao Crnogorci-Srbi ustavno (najzad) i da promijene zvanicni jezik Crne Gore u Crnogorski Srpski jezik. Zele da promijene zastavu, vracajuci crveno-plavo-bijelku umjesto one crvene iza crnogorskoga grba, i da ozvanice crveno-plavo-bijelku kao narodnu zastavu Crnogoraca - a O'namo, 'namo za narodnu himnu. --HolyRomanEmperor 09:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Pitanje

Je li bi ti bilo uvredljivo ako bih koristio naziv "Srbo-Hrvati" za sve nas? Mislim, glupo mi je da stalno ponavljam: Srbi, Hrvati, Bosnjaci, Crnogorci,...; a pitam jer znam da ovo moze biti uvredljivo. --HolyRomanEmperor 13:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Now Bosnia is a disambiguation page

--Greasysteve13 09:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Dzamija dubica.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Dzamija dubica.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page to provide the necessary information on the source or licensing of this image (if you have any), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

howcheng {chat} 21:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

ohh thanks i just have no idea how to do the whole copyright thing id quite rather work on improving the bosnian articles but if you could explain it to me please i could start adding my own licensing, i just dont want to to add the wrong thing.. id rather just leave it blank and let someone with more experience who actually knows what their doing.

-ajdin

Wikimedia commons

It would be nice if you could add appropriate descriptive categories (such as "[[Category:Flags of Bosnia and Herzegovina]]") to your uploads at Wikimedia commons. AnonMoos 21:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Montenegro map updates

Hi!

Say, coould you update the following: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]? Would be great! —Nightstallion (?) 06:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Just to say Hello.--Emir Arven 23:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry for being so trigger-happy on that speedy delete for Vlasic. Vint 19:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:RussianLanguageMap.png

Please see Image_talk:RussianLanguageMap.png#Proposed_new_version and comment as you see appropriate. Thanks. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 19:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Denial of reality

Hi,

I understand your frustration by division of your country, but wikipedia is about how thinks are, not about how things should be. So, please, do not deny reality just because you don't like it. --Ante Perkovic 18:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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This comment was related to deletion of map and calling it "Segregationist" and writting We do not need the other map location, which is placed in order to further divide BiH!!!. The map (Image:Bih outline map.png) was made by user:ChrisO and I don't think he made it due to being greater-serbian or something. You seams to react too emotionally here.

I believe that pro-Serbian users put the map there because they would like to see Bosnia divided, but you shoudn't react to user's edits based on his motive. If some french or indonesian guy put the map there, you propably wouldn't call him chetnik or smt. and maybe wouldn't even remove the map (not 100% sure about this).

I do understand your frustration with pro-Serbian users who still live in denial regarding Bosnian genocide and the role their nation had in Yugoslav wars, but You shouldn't react by going to opposite extreme and ignoring the fact that Bosnia is divided country (B-H still have 2 armies (or 3, I'm not sure)). As i said, it's not about what should be, or what will be. It's about what is now.

--Ante Perkovic 22:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)