KiharaNoukan
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editI look forward to you berating me about that for the rest of my life.
it was dumb of me, ok? happy now? soibangla (talk) 09:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I point it out, because that is the only actually relevant sourcing that exists anywhere at all to contradict the massive amount of RS that describes Trump as being shot. What's the theory here? A glass bottle dropped from a plane got in between the bullet and Trump, slicing up his ear with fragments? KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- reporting doesn't have to contradict it
- if the man was shot, they would say he was shot soibangla (talk) 09:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well we have plenty of RS that do in fact say it, in their own words. Some people say the same thing in different ways, that doesn't indicate a dispute with reporting by everyone from BBC to Axios. KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I just showed you that more don't than do, regardless of your corrections. we need to err on the conservative soibangla (talk) 09:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't gotten around to fact checking your entire list, I've already found that both BBC and WSJ report Trump was shot, despite your claims otherwise. But guess what, they also simultaneously report Trump was injured too! It's almost as if RS do not believe that being shot and being injured are in any way mutually exclusive. You're trying to create a dispute with what multiple RS have reported, that does not exist. KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:33, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- more don't than do. I am done here. soibangla (talk) 09:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- No. You do not. Many of the sources you reference, without linking, do in fact say that Trump was shot. KiharaNoukan (talk) 10:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Soibangla
- Regarding your offer, you can donate to
the shooting victims via the official gofundme (hyperlink is in the article)United24, given effective altruism and what I've learned about the proclivities of a certain attendee. Let me know what you have in mind for your end. KiharaNoukan (talk) 23:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)- @Soibangla
- Do we accept Snopes as an arbiter of your offer? If not, let me know what we can rely on. KiharaNoukan (talk) 01:34, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- clarify. haha.
soibangla (talk) 06:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)July 17, 2024: This report was updated to add additional documentation of no broken teleprompters and to clarify language Snopes previously used describing a photo showing "a bullet striking Trump."[1]
- Snopes:
there is photographic evidence of a bullet striking Trump[2]
- there most certainly is not. hahaha! soibangla (talk) 07:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd guess the FBI/USSS have already talked to these officers:
Pittsburgh sent 10 officers. Four of them, as we exclusively reported Sunday afternoon, were hit by shrapnel when a gunman opened fire at the rally, killing one man, and wounding Trump and several others. The Pittsburgh motorcycle officers suffered only minor injuries and were treated at the scene. One later went to the hospital. Video from CBS News shows those Pittsburgh officers, just minutes after they were hit with debris, in the stands helping some of the injured, even carrying one to safety.[3]
soibangla (talk) 08:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Sources tell (WPXI) Chief Investigator Rick Earle the officers were just feet away from Trump when shots rang out. The four officers suffered minor injuries from flying debris caused by the bullets. Sources say the officers were hit with either plastic or metal fragments when the bullets struck objects nearby.[4]
- so, we now have Pittsburgh news reporting four individuals "just feet away from Trump" suffered minor injuries from flying debris during the incident, while there remains no evidence whatsoever that Trump was struck in the ear by a rifle bullet. a reasonable person might deduce this suggests Trump also suffered a minor injury from flying debris like the other four, but maybe we should wait to see what the FBI/USSS says before the big $50 prize is awarded. soibangla (talk) 10:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- No. You do not. Many of the sources you reference, without linking, do in fact say that Trump was shot. KiharaNoukan (talk) 10:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- more don't than do. I am done here. soibangla (talk) 09:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't gotten around to fact checking your entire list, I've already found that both BBC and WSJ report Trump was shot, despite your claims otherwise. But guess what, they also simultaneously report Trump was injured too! It's almost as if RS do not believe that being shot and being injured are in any way mutually exclusive. You're trying to create a dispute with what multiple RS have reported, that does not exist. KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:33, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I just showed you that more don't than do, regardless of your corrections. we need to err on the conservative soibangla (talk) 09:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well we have plenty of RS that do in fact say it, in their own words. Some people say the same thing in different ways, that doesn't indicate a dispute with reporting by everyone from BBC to Axios. KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)