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Latest comment: 7 years ago by Bastun in topic Birmingham Pub Bombings

August Sangret edit

Thank you for your work on the August Sangret article. Although I did not start the article I did update it significantly some years ago. However, it was one of the first articles I had worked on and I have never been entirely happy with the result. You have improved the article no-end. Your restructuring and additional material makes the article much more readable and appealing.

Do you think the title of the article should be changed to Wigwam Murder? That is what the article is really about.

Thanks again. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 21:57, 14 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi, Gaius Cornelius. Thanks for the kudos. The case has always been an intriguing one to me (not least the forensic reconstruction of events and how the distinctive knife was determined to match the skull and tendon retracting arm wounds), and it took quite some time to expand that article to its current level. I can see benefits of keeping the article under the title of August Sangret, but also changing it to The Wigwam Murder, as the entire sequence of events is better known to some by the significance of the two shelters Sangret constructed. If the article remains as it stands, a redirect of Wigwam Murder would certainly be appropriate; if consensus is to change the article to The Wigwam Murder, redirects for Sangret and Wolfe would be needed, in my opinion. Best regards. Kez.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:04, 15 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

April 2016 edit

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Nilsen edit

Just wondering why you removed basically everything I wrote about on the Nilsen page?! I think the recent news about his flats being for sale are big news in terms of recent updates, not much has been heard in years so this was notable aftermath news if you ask me which caused a lot of stir. Are you in charge of this page or something? As 23 Cranley Gardens has always been flats, about three books refer to it as 23D (as its top floor), including t. he recent Rightmove pages.

Also naming the section of Gallichan is good idea as the entire paragraph relates to him, many said his leavetaking was a catalyst for Nilsen's killing so he deserves a section to his name. Also a 195 Melrose Ave section is labelled below so no point having two similar titles. Artefacts in black museum aren't for public viewing as asked them via email. How do I reference this then? Also the young chap was said to be like a concentration camp etc as it's stated in The Nilsen File by Brian McConnell. Good day

User:Fraydizzle (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:28, 16 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'll try and remain cordial, Fraydizzle. Not everything was removed - just trivia like an apple tree planted by him and Gallichan still standing and meandering text as to where to view an image of it. Also, you didn't add a reference for the dissection process of the emaciated young man reminding Nilsen of a concentration camp victim. We only have your word as to "Black Museum [artifacts] aren't for public viewing as asked them via email". Maybe a Google advanced search by yourself can find something verifiable? Section is better as 195 Melrose Ave. as that's where most of his murders were committed. It also conflicts with the naming of the Cranley Gardens section. Perhaps a subsection referring to Gallichan could be apt? If you want sections adding (and this article has no shortage of watchers) then please add the references you have rather than harking to them on my talk page. I don't own the article and neither do you. Regards.--Kieronoldham (talk) 00:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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A barnstar for you! edit

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For Robert Black, a despicable and hateful man given underserved attention for the benefit of those who want to know how, when, and more importantly, why, such disgusting crimes take place. Expertly researched and told with the utmost sensitivity. CassiantoTalk 20:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, User:Cassianto. I've seriously always wanted one of these. I appreciate the kudos. :)--Kieronoldham (talk) 20:41, 3 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Black edit

Hi Kieronoldham. Thanks for all the work done so far. As we move into the next phase of pushing this article onwards, it would be helpful to share notes on improved references. I see you do not have the "email this user" function enabled. If you want to send me an email from my user page, you could do so, then we can communicate off-wiki. Having said all that, I will be travelling and holidaying for the next few weeks so will have limited time online until the end of July. Drop me an email if you like and we can chat about upgrading sources. Basically the challenge will be to replace as many as possible of the lower-quality sources, as we've been discussing in article talk. Do you have all of the books? We don't want the whole article to depend upon two books either. I feel confident that the sources are there and that between us we can make this a very good article. We can talk more also about what sort of peer-review you would like to go for once we feel ready for that. --John (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Will do. Thanks and enjoy a well-earned break. I may look into adding the email this user function.--Kieronoldham (talk) 23:48, 8 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Birmingham Pub Bombings edit

Thanks for the message. I do intend to return to this but am away at the moment and I don't have access to a decent computer or reliable connection. Regards, BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 07:46, 9 July 2016 (UTC)Reply