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Nomination of Ayman Taha (American soldier) for deletion

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Humayun Khan

Why did you create Humayun Khan (soldier)? The subject fails WP:MILPEOPLE and all the coverage is about this DNC argument, so WP:BLP1E applies. I'd like to hear your explanation before I take it to AfD. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:07, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey, now. I created the bio before it became a full-on political football,[1] with simply the WP:GNG in mind (or as the first sentence of WP:MILPEOPLE explains "In general, an individual is presumed to be notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple verifiable independent, reliable sources.") That was good enough for me.

I don't believe that the subsequent passing back and forth of the ball between the Trump and Clinton campaigns would make his bio any less notable.

Furthermore, I would suggest that the ensuing controversy might best be split off into it's own article, but... frankly, I did something similar with Mitt Romney's tax returns back in 2012, but then that article got deleted, and when I tried to undo my split, I got indef blocked by @Timotheus Canens for ~5 months until I finally convinced @Beeblebrox: to give me another chance.

As such, my learned advice to you, per WP:TIND, is to just ride this out until after the election; 20 weeks is short and the arc of WP:5P is long. August is a slow news month in any year,[2] which makes it during a Presidential election year High Holy Silly Season.

Still, if you really want to turn this into a Wikipedian political football too, just send it to AfD. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. It'll only bring out the worse in all of us. -- Kendrick7^talk 23:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

The claim "I created the bio before it became a full-on political football" isn't so. The sources (and the stub you created) are based on coverage solely because the Khan family's appearance at the DNC. None of that coverage was ever about CPT Khan, himself, independent of the hubub and you know that. Now to say that I dare not send it to AfD because of the ensuing furor is disappointing from a ten year editor. It would appear you get joy out of creating these stubs about people and things that aren't really notable. In the future, please be more careful. Chris Troutman (talk) 05:49, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Maybe I've used slightly the wrong metaphor, but football is a sport that requires two teams playing. I honestly didn't expect Khizr and Ghazala Khan to end up much more than a footnote to the DNC 2016 article due to being Chelsea Clinton's opening act; now they have their own article.

You're correct that if I have two and a half reliable sources about someone or something I find even remoting interesting and a working keyboard, I'll probably stub out an article and I do take joy in that. Here's another one I'm quite proud of; yeesh, has it really been almost eight years?[3] -- Kendrick7^talk 11:43, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Humayun Khan (soldier) for deletion

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Reference spacing

Hi there,

Saw this at Humayun Khan (soldier). Not actually interested to get involved in that particular back-and-forth, but it made me curious. I understand each parameter on a separate line for templates not used in the text, like infoboxes. I'd also understand someone having a preference for them to be displayed that way with named references stored together at the bottom. But why that way in the text? When I see that, I presume it's because someone copy/pasted or used a citation tool and nobody has gone through to clean it up yet. To me a citation that takes up as much space as two paragraphs negatively affects usability/editability. Although I regularly remove such line breaks, I don't think I've ever been reverted for it (nor can I remember seeing a revert, except perhaps for an infobox). Seeing this ongoing dispute, however, makes me realize that I don't know what basis there is in the MOS or elsewhere for either position. WP:CITEVAR doesn't cover it (it's not a change in citation style/method), nor do I see anything on the rest of Wikipedia:Citing sources. If there's a page, or perhaps an RfC, could you point me to it? Thanks. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 00:44, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

What is truth? redirect

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Fix the Debt

I saw that you were the one who established the redirect from Fix the Debt to Peter George Peterson. I recently submitted a draft on the subject to AfC, but it hasn't received any attention yet. Would you be interested in collaborating on and reviewing the draft I created?--FacultiesIntact (talk) 18:54, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for taking the time to look over my draft! Please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help out. I really appreciate it.--FacultiesIntact (talk) 16:33, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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Honeywell Lead section

Hello Kendrick7, I've been working on factual updates to the Honeywell article, and I'd like to get another pair of eyes on it. I have a WP:COI with Honeywell, so I'm refraining from editing directly. I saw you helped my former colleague FacultiesIntact, with Honeywell related projects in the past. If you have time, can you review my proposed updates for the lead? I intend to collaborate with a Wikipedian without a COI on these updates. I appreciate it.--Chefmikesf (talk) 23:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Kendrick7 I wanted to follow up with you about the Honeywell lead section. Is this an article of interest to you? Chefmikesf (talk) 16:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello Kendrick7, Thanks for taking a keen eye to the article. Can you help me understand your approach to reorganizing the lead and history section? Can you help me see what you saw when you came to the article?--Chefmikesf (talk) 23:42, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Kendrick7 Thank you for the context and additions to the article. I see where you're coming from. I believe the lead paragraph falls short of giving the reader context about the article and Honeywell as a whole, especially when considering WP: Lead. The lead should summarize the article as a whole, and it feels deficient relative to such a long article. I think some of the content moves make sense, but we could add to the lead while keeping it NPOV. Also, if you found it challenging to put the content originally in the lead paragraphs, perhaps it might help to collaborate.

Before making any changes, I wanted to run this lead proposal by you. Would you be open to coming up with a solution here before bringing this to the main article space?

Here is my sandbox for reference.Chefmikesf (talk) 00:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Kendrick7: Hey there, happy holidays. I wanted to follow up on this if you've been busy on other things. The lead is critical to the article, so if you're unavailable, I may bring in other collaborators on the article.--Chefmikesf (talk) 19:30, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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Oh thanks, @JalenFolf:, although as I explained at Talk:Nick Nichols, I sort of screwed this up in 2018 to begin with, but usually an eight year old AFD doesn't have a bunch of incoming links. And no one even noticed until I did, which speaks a bit to the non-notability of the original target, I think. Still, there's probably a fandom joke in here somewhere! :p -- Kendrick7^talk 21:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)