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editYou might find some leads here. Sportfan5000 (talk) 06:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atisone Seiuli (2nd nomination)
editThanks for your notification. That's more than fine, I was kinda expecting it to go there. I don't believe this person is notable, and the article should be deleteded, however we can't have a dangling redirect with (as you brought it to RfD) people searching and finding no content at its target. So I added a bit of content so at least people could kinda judge whether it is worth keeping or incorporating without WP:UNDUE or WP:BLP into Eddie Murphy. Personally I would delete it and salt, I could probably get it under CSD:A7 but while things are under discussion I don't like to pull the rug from under the carpet, as it stands here is my position:
- This person is not notable
- Was mentioned in reliable sources, scandal rags published by News International I think
- Mentioned in several unreliable sources
- The information in the article is factually correct as far as I can ascertain it briefly
- I deliberately have not looked at the Eddie Murphy article so if there is a BLP violation, it is at that article not at this one
- But this person is not notable, WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:GNG and so on. So I quite agree it should go delete but I think it would have been hard to argue your case without mentioning who he was and so on, which is why I made the stub. I had never heard of him, but then I don't tend to read scandal rags. Si Trew (talk) 08:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Scandal mags are not WP:RS. A death certificate is a primary source and it's use is inappropriate. Where gender is an issue (as it clearly was here) WP:SHE requires gender-neutral terminology. BLP violations can occur in any article, the rules refer to statements about living people anywhere on wikipadia, so innuendo about Murphy in Seiuli's article can breach BLP, even though Seiuli is dead. Kaimahi (talk) 08:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- I agree the whole thing is inappropriate. It has gone speedy delete which is what I think both you and I wanted, I am not an admin and don't want to be but I would "salt" it so that it can't be created again. Sorry if it caused you pain but I thought the best thing to get it speedily deleted was to create the article with the allegations etc and then it goes speedy delete, rather than 7 days at RfD and another 7 at AfD and so on, by which time the search engine spiders pick up the redirect and suddenly Murphy is linked to this person more than for his work etc and will start hitting the top of search engines. I may have a different way of getting it done from you but I knew it had to be deleted quickly. I was trying to get what you wanted, to have it deleted... I think you should request an admin to salt it (I have, from the deleting admin, but another request doesn't hurt). Si Trew (talk) 11:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Scandal mags are not WP:RS. A death certificate is a primary source and it's use is inappropriate. Where gender is an issue (as it clearly was here) WP:SHE requires gender-neutral terminology. BLP violations can occur in any article, the rules refer to statements about living people anywhere on wikipadia, so innuendo about Murphy in Seiuli's article can breach BLP, even though Seiuli is dead. Kaimahi (talk) 08:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- By the way whether this person was male of female is a matter of his sex, not his gender. Gender is for the linguistic description of the declension of nouns, sex is for whether an organism is male or female or hermaphrodite or changes from one to the other over the season, but I know it is fighting a losing battle and now "gender" means "sex" when it doesn't or shouldn't mean that. It is just those who blush at the thought of sexual intercourse (I don't mean you) have now put a euphemism called gender, and that is not what it should mean — though I know it now does and I am fighting a losing battle. I called him "Him" because he was born a man and died a man; what else am I to do? In most articles I try to recast things from "if he does this then that", to "if they do this, then that" and so forth to do exactly as you say and be sex-neutral but English is poorly equipped for doing it. In French if one says "Il" (he or it) it implies the female so you can get away with it, in English it is more of a struggle to try to recast a sentence to make it sex-neutral but I am forever making small ones often obvious ones just by changing "if he went there he would find" to "if they went there they would find" and kinda erase the problem without subverting the English language. Si Trew (talk) 11:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- If you struggle with gender, I suggest that you attempt to edit without using pronouns. You can always use the subjects surname in place of a pronoun without making any gender assumptions. Kaimahi (talk) 20:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Donald Antrim's "The Afterlife"/Non-Notability
editI went ahead and cited reviews and interviews whose main substance dealt with the afterlife appearing in the New York Times, Paste, Slate, The Believer, The Kirkus Review of Books, Bookforum, and also the acknowledgement the National Book Critics Circle where the book was a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle award. I could go on and on but by their nature most book reviews say the same thing--reviews appeared in the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times, even in New Zealand. These laurels are added to the fact that almost every story appearing in the book was published in the New Yorker--which itself has an international audience--prior to be anthologized. Having cited these sources, I went ahead and removed the "Propose Deletion" signpost as well. Do you Google things before nominating them for deletion? I think the normal protocol is to drop a "refimprove" which shows up on the page looking like this:
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...if you find that there are plentiful sources upon typing in a search for the subject, if you don't want to add those references yourself. ThomasMikael (talk) 00:37, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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BrickHouse Security
editI saw that you moved my article BrickHouse Security to the draft status. Please voice your concerns in the talk section before taking such drastic action, and I will address them. I only saw your action when I was alerted that the logo I uploaded was going to be deleted since it was not in an article. Please alert me in the future so I can respond. I undid your move pending a response from you.Timtempleton (talk) 02:43, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Just a friendly heads up that I added a few more sources of news coverage about BrickHouse Security. Please let me know if you still think the company needs to show notability.Timtempleton (talk) 22:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Draft:HardenedBSD 2
editDear Kaimahi, I started a discussion on the article's TP. --Miraclexix (talk) 13:24, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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