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Behindwoods

Please make article on Behindwoods. These links are used in many articles as sources, but still no it's won article. Please make it. Thanks. 103.161.55.134 (talk) 06:31, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Attempts were made. None successful. You have enough independent sources to help? Kailash29792 (talk) 06:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
They also have Behindwoods Gold Icon awards. 103.161.55.134 (talk) 06:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Disambiguating links

Hi Kailash. Could you disambiguate links when you move and redirect the old page to a dab, like the Jailer? I've done it for now, but it would be better if you do it yourself as it require effort from another editor. Thanks! — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 19:41, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Your InternetArchiveBot run appears to be stuck

Hai! InternetArchiveBot run #14738 (submitted by you) seems to be going very wonky - it says it's run through the single page of the job, but apparently hasn't realized that it needs to finish the job and release its bot worker for other use. Could you maybe try manually killing the job and see if that clears up the issue? Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 04:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

  Done has that fixed anything? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Editor's Barnstar
For actively responding to pings. DareshMohan (talk) 06:40, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

MG Vallabhan

There's a book on M. G. Vallabhan's biography called "Sakalakala Vallabhan" which is available in book shops. I assume that book may have lot of things about him to expand the article. Srivin (talk) 10:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

https://www.purecinemabookshop.com/sagalagalaa-vallapan try buying from this site. Srivin (talk) 08:54, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Leo (2023 American film) (August 27)

 
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I believed it passes WP:NFF as a trailer was released, and the film is almost three months away from releasing. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:07, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Jailer (soundtrack)

Can you add the {{WikiProject Albums}} template on the article's talk page and upload the album cover? 103.179.230.159 (talk) 06:43, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Rajinikanth

Can you add to Rajinikanth filmography that he mostly starred in second lead roles in Hindi films and that many were remakes of Tamil films. DareshMohan (talk) 05:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Couldn't find sources (that he played secondary roles is available, that they were remakes of Tamil films isn't). Kailash29792 (talk) 06:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Puthiya Thalaimurai

Is Puthiya Thalaimurai a reliable source? I think it's reliable. Print media is generally considered reliable per WP:NFSOURCES, be it in any language. Please tell. NaanReady (talk) 08:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Of course it is RS. Why was there a doubt? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. @User:Yucky Cupid is simply removing the source from List of highest-grossing Tamil films. Please have a look on it. NaanReady (talk) 08:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Also please undo his contributions as he removed the source from many articles. I'm not doing it, bcz he is undoing my edits. Thanks. NaanReady (talk) 08:37, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
User:Yucky Cupid undid your edit too. What to do? NaanReady (talk) 10:44, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
WP:ARV him. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:53, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Yeah. NaanReady (talk) 10:58, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Two proDs/Notability issues/suggestion

Hello Kailash29792 and @Donaldd23, Thank you for your concern (notabilty tag and today's ProD) about Kulirkaala Megangal, directed by C. V. Sridhar, and Velicham, by Sundar K. Vijayan. What about redirecting those pages to the articles about their respective directors? Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

I tagged these articles after trying and failing to find sources. KM is in fact quite obscure. You could perhaps monitor Emeraude this way since he tags a lot of articles this way which then get tagged by Donaldd23 for deletion. The deletion of Puthiya Vaarpugal is unforgivable since it is now a classic example of WP:HEY. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
Thank you. May I assume that you think redirections are a good option for those 2 pages, then? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
I would be fine with redirects. Thanks DonaldD23 talk to me 12:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Thank you@Donaldd23. I'll do it. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 3 Bachelors (August 30)

 
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It is really bad form to move a draft into article space just after a reviewer has declined it. I have moved it back. Fix the problems identified by the reviewer and resubmit for another review. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:24, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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For helping me with my drafts. Imagine if a Sharman Joshi film didn't have an article: Draft:3 Bachelors. DareshMohan (talk) 02:40, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Suriya's future projects

Do you think it is worth adding Irumbu Kai Mayavi and Untitled Rolex film? Because according to these sources:[1][2] ,Suriya has confirmed them. 103.179.230.167 (talk) 17:15, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Error

It has gotten to the point where Sun Pictures themselves put a false name (Dokinath) [3]. DareshMohan (talk) 05:51, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Lol. Or it might be a mistake. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:52, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Sun Pictures knows best. The editor did cut the Namo Narayana scene. If u have seen the film (full film on TamilYogi), the name is never mentioned. But since the production studio said it before Wikipedia said it, I guess it stays. DareshMohan (talk) 06:40, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Sure. Make it like Dhanush's character in Gray Man. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:42, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
I also removed Yogi Babu's name of "Vimal" cause it was not in the film. If you can find it [4], kindly include the timestamp of the scene and it can be readded. DareshMohan (talk) 06:44, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Also if you figure out who Mithun, Ananth, and Kalai Arasan are from the official showcase credits, please update me. DareshMohan (talk) 07:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Have you seen Jailer? The acting of Vinayakan and VTV Ganesh is good. DareshMohan (talk) 06:15, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, in the opening week itself. Ganesh could have had more screen time though. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:52, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Yogi Babu's name is Vimal [5] at 34:39. "Night Vimal-ah paaduthe. Kaalaiyil vibathai paape. DareshMohan (talk) 01:56, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks note - 3 Bachelors poster.jpg

I have uploaded the poster, but it was returned with an error code of internal error in the back-end server. Later, I tried to upload a new version of the file but again got the error code "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/7/7d/3_Bachelors_poster.jpg". Thanks for uploading it at the perfect time. People like you and User:DareshMohan are the saviours of Wikipedia. Manick22 (talk) 06:10, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

@Manick22: I am mainly here because editing Wikipedia is a hobby (added plus is that you guys are very friendly). I wouldn't be here if all of the missing articles already had pages. Also, the reason people blindly cite Wikipedia for info is because of fellow editors like Kailash (imagine the quality of older Tamil film articles before he improved them). DareshMohan (talk) 00:21, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Reviews

Where can I access Malayalam/Telugu/Kannada reviews? Why are The Indian Express reviews mostly Tamil/occasionally Hindi [6]? DareshMohan (talk) 02:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps because the paper is based in Chennai, and Hindi reviews because Bollywood's the biggest film industry in India. Kalki occasionally reviews Malayalam films dubbed in Tamil. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:08, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Ok, my target was 90s Kannada films because they are poorly sourced. DareshMohan (talk) 03:22, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Our timing of joining Wiki was perhaps wrong. If I had known link rotting was so prevalent and untreatable, I would have been archiving sources when they were still usable. Search for links like this. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:27, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, nanba it means a lot. DareshMohan (talk) 03:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Chandramukhi (fictional character)

If you can find enough sources on Shobana's character, please rewrite it. Do you think the article is notable or should be deleted? If it should be deleted, please close the requested move discussion.

The name is weird since both Chandramukhi (fictional character) and Chandramukhi (character) are fictional characters. DareshMohan (talk) 20:04, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Deaths in May 2012

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Does newspaper clippings are not counted as posters?

Hi friend, so I saw your uploads for film posters of Tamil Cinema, most posters are newspaper clippings and does it match Wikipedia standards? I had few posters of Hindi films, with release date mentioned but my question is (which i doubt) my edits were removed by a "saint" user User:Krimuk2.0 who reverted my edits to his "own way" stating uploads of newspaper clippings are against Wikipedia policies. So is it really that case or am i targetted by that user specifically? SuperHero👊 20:43, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

This is better questioned at Template talk:Infobox film. I upload whatever I can find. After I discovered that Kalki stored many of their archives online, the posters found in them don't exactly qualify as "newspaper clippings" do they? Kailash29792 (talk) 02:05, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
No not at all, that user might be a troll or a high suspected sockpuppet as he reverted all of my poster edits and justifies that "newspaper clippings are against Wikipedia poster policies". I saw most of your uploads which have posters with release dates and that user reverts back stating its all against policies. No matter how and why he was awarded with Wikipedia barnstars. Anyways I will get that escalated and thanks. SuperHero👊 10:28, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Major error spotted

Deccan Herald reported Amritha Aiyer as being a part of Jawan [7], that is Lehar Khan [8]. DareshMohan (talk) 22:19, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Then better avoid it. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:47, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
I have a feeling that Vijay is not in Jawan, what do you think? Now the latest updates suggest that even if Vijay is not seen doing a cameo in Jawan, there are plenty of references in it that would appeal to the Tamil Nadu audience as well. Speculations about his cameo in the film continue to be a mystery. [9] DareshMohan (talk) 22:39, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Should I remove Vijay from Jawan cast? @Srivin: He invited Shah Rukh Khan and Vijay to his birthday party -- that has nothing to do with the movie right? DareshMohan (talk) 01:15, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Just do it. Or wait tomorrow and find out. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Note

Gurukiran composed the music for the intro pose of Rajinikanth with leg in air in Chandramukhi, please find a source to support this. [10] [11]. The portion "Raa Raa" of the song was also based on the Kannada film. [12]. DareshMohan (talk) 03:03, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Is he not credited in the film itself? I saw the film twice, but don't remember or did not notice. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:09, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
No, but I am sure if you look at the film's production sources when Rajinikanth claimed the film as original when the film was "a remake of a remake" you may find something. I mean 2005 sources. DareshMohan (talk) 03:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Oh, I found it "Incidentally, Rajni wanted the original Kannada version "Raa Raa... " climax song of Guru Kiran who did "Aapthamitra". [13]. DareshMohan (talk) 03:16, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Reception section

Please check Jawan (film)#Critical response. The style of reviews written in the film is not correct. And could you please correct it? NaanReady (talk) 12:49, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Is that style of writing correct for Indian film? NaanReady (talk) 13:29, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Yes. Because WP:QUOTEFARM. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:30, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
I said that, actually all Indian film article uses "Author of Website gave the film a rating of X/5 and wrote" statement. But this article uses "awarded", "labelled", etc. NaanReady (talk) 13:45, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
The star rating should be used. "Awarded" should be avoided, "labelled" is okay. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. Is there any "WP:X" stating that. Because User:Krimuk2.0 is changing it to awarded, etc words. Just asking. NaanReady (talk) 13:55, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
No, just about neutrality and formalness. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:04, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks. If you can you please change it to correct form. Or I'll do it later. Thanks. NaanReady (talk) 14:06, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Note

Please keep an eye on User:Porakuyya and User:Kokokhiladi. The former is especially is creating a lot of "upcoming" film pages that should only be created when released causing a lot of draftifications from my end. DareshMohan (talk) 06:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Question

Why was Shreya Ghoshal awarded for the Telugu dubbed version song from a Tamil film [14] [15]? Does it sound better than the Tamil version? DareshMohan (talk) 18:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Dunno, maybe the NFA jury is incompetent or misinformed. Anyway, could you please help resolve the remaining comments at Ramu GAR? My odd working shifts don't give me enough desktop time here. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:28, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

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Vikram box office

Hey read the source citing the Twitter post of the tracker Ramesh Bala, I have exactly reproduced it. So it matches the source. He has written Kamal Haasan's mammoth industry hit in his post. So don't delete that. Cinephile4ever 04:56, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

The exact quote is, "Kamal Haasan’s mammoth INDUSTRY HIT #Vikram ends its theatrical run in TN today at Coimbatore KG Cinemas (113 days). The movie has set the ALL TIME record for: Highest Gross Highest Share & Highest Footfalls in 100 years of Tamil Cinema. (TN)." Courtesy, this source. If you can't reproduce the quote exactly, better paraphrase it. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:00, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Ok I will edit to reproduce the exact quote now. Cinephile4ever 05:02, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Also why did you delete the quotes I mentioned from the sources for box office in the infobox? The title of the sources did not mention the collection of the film, that's why I gave quotes. So I'm going to add them back now. Cinephile4ever 05:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Because I believed users can check the sources. But if I'm wrong, feel free to re-add them. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:24, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

  The Writer's Barnstar
For your efforts with my Legends project as it was your idea that drove me down the rabbit hole, forever chasing the light at the end of the tunnel OLIfanofmrtennant 04:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Thuppakki edit

I added information to the Thuppakki page for the plot. Many movies have detailed plot summaries. Why was my addition to the summary deleted for too much information? Sorry I don't know where to message here SatireBunny (talk) 17:40, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Updated poster for Elaan (2005)

I have uploaded a fine poster of Elaan and here's the updated poster. Do keep a watch as vandalists might revert that. Thanks! SuperHero👊 20:05, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Beast

On 4 May 2022, The Indian Express reported that Beast grossed over 240 crore[16]. But on 6 February 2023, they said the film grossed over 210 crore[17]. The number in decreasing after the days are increasing. Is this source trustworthy? NaanReady (talk) 10:01, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Interesting. This should be discussed at WP:ICTF. But except for box office info, I think it is reliable for everything else. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:57, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
I started discussion. Should this source be included in the film's box office. NaanReady (talk) 11:10, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Unreleased films

[18] This was one of them that was deleted I think. Will only need an article if more updates come I think. DareshMohan (talk) 04:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Ayalaan

Hey! This is regarding the recent edits on Ayalaan. As I mentioned before, the poster of the film should be in Tamil. The one which you have added in English. Since there is a Official Tamil poster which is avaialble, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be preferred over the English one. Kindly explain your point of view for reverting the edits. Thanks! (Edit: As per your reasoning provided in the edit hsitory, I have overwritten the previous poster. Do let me know if there are any further things to be done) ~ ChaitanyaJo (talk) 08:55, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Veteran editors like Krimuk2.0 follow this paradigm that English posters are preferable as this is English wiki. Though I don't know if there is any such guideline, I believe it is for convenience for viewers. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:01, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Oh I understand now. Thank you for pointing that out. Good Day! ChaitanyaJo (talk) 10:35, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Error

Can you help me redirect all the links at Sriranjini (Tamil actress) [19] to Sriranjani (Tamil actress). The former is a misspelling. DareshMohan (talk) 18:07, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

This requires WP:AWB. Please remind me by the end of the week as I will only have mobile access before that. Kailash29792 (talk) 19:16, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Reminder. DareshMohan (talk) 20:22, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Ah sorry, I return tonight from travel which means I can start tomorrow only. Have you read how to use AWB yet? Kailash29792 (talk) 03:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Just looked at it, will need to download soon. Not an expert. DareshMohan (talk) 04:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
An alternative to look at is WP:JWB. Not quite everything that's in AWB, but it can be easier to use for some tasks. You still need to get AWB access to use JWB though. Ravensfire (talk) 17:38, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Prince (2022 film)


Time sum

How do you use this User:JPxG/TrackSum.js? DareshMohan (talk) 17:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Have you enabled it? Then you should see it in the top menu while editing. Ctrl F if you don't. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:49, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

link

can u access this [20]. DareshMohan (talk) 20:35, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

This might be the same. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:50, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

article

please help me create The Eye (2023 film) nominated for best film at London Independent Film Festival. [21] [22] [23] plot: [24]. DareshMohan (talk) 19:48, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Arrow season 8

Would you be intrested in writing an article for Reset (Arrow) if I can get Purgatory accepts then its the only season 8 episode without a article. The is a draft currently made for it but I dont think its that great and we could start a new one at [[Draft:Reset (Arrow episode)]]. What do you think OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) Questions? 02:32, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

You have enough sources? I think "Here I Go Again (Legends of Tomorrow)" deserves an article. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:43, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Here I Go Again (Legends of Tomorrow) :) Questions? four OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:39, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
I have a few things like a start date on filming but the script wasnt posted so none of that stuff. I could probably find some info on filming if I looked hard enough and there was a bit of coverage on Paul Blackthorne's return. But if you want to work on one for "Here I Go Again (Legends of Tomorrow)" I'd be done I enjoy working with you. Questions? four OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her)

Ardab Mutiyaran

Dear Kailash29792! Can you upload poster of Ardab Mutiyaran without second teaser release? Thank you! --178.66.102.124 (talk) 09:46, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

This ok? I don't have desktop access at the moment, might get tomorrow. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes, it’s suits. --178.66.102.124 (talk) 12:44, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Ajith Kumar Dad

His dad is a Tamilian. [25] Please update the page. This is false [26]. DareshMohan (talk) 00:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Changed per existing source. Please add this YouTube interview when you get time. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:39, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
It was previously removed because video links are unreliable sources. DareshMohan (talk) 03:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

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