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Rename is done in zh wiki. Best regards.--Mywood (talk) 09:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Joshua. I saw your edit to Simplified Chinese characters and read your userpage, and I figured it was worth a shot to ask: Do you think you'd be interested in helping me with Second round of simplified Chinese characters? I got interested in the topic a few weeks ago, but ran into a brick wall because I can't access the Mandarin portion of the net/library and a few contacts turned up nothing. But if you can do the "methods of simplification" and "effects" (the stuff about licence plates and such - I can handle the sociological aspect) from the Chinese Wikipedia and elsewhere, I can finish what I started and we'd have a featured article. Recognizance (talk) 19:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Haha, well consider that I knew nothing about the topic but used Google Book Search to locate the best sources and wrote most of the article once I'd acquired them via inter-library loan. It's less about existing knowledge than willingness to do the research, which is why I asked you.
My first concern is getting information translated from zh.wikipedia. They appear to discuss the methods of simplification at length with charts and examples. The second is with sourcing in the effects section. For instance, you mentioned 歺 - we need a WP:RS to support things like that, which are far more likely to be discussed in Chinese-language sites and books. I'll get the Zhao & Baldauf book back and finish my work as well. It has the potential to be an extremely useful article Recognizance (talk) 23:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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Do you have time to peek at Malaysia–Sweden relations, a little help finding sources would help, or if you know of anyone else with good research skills with Malaysian source material. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 13:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Hello. I saw your name on the list of translators. I have a question concerning English to Chinese translation. The Islam in China article mentions more info in the English article than in the Chinese article. I was thinking about how to ask Chinese Wikipedia if they can translate the English information into the Chinese articles, maybe like with a tag or something asking for a translation, but I could not get very far. lol. Deeply appreciate if you can tell me what to do. Just FYI, I contacted two other translators before but got no reply. Thank You. Editingman (talk) 12:10, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I noticed that you have contacted Vina before. She has added the request translation template in the Chinese article talk page. Just FYI, you can add {{Request translation|[[:en:(Article name in English Wikipedia]]|0}} to an article talk page to request for translation. --Joshua Say "hi" to me!What I've done? 13:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, greatly appreciate it.Editingman (talk) 20:11, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey Joshua, uhm, can you translate the phrase 'History of Islam in China' into simplified Chinese? I think this should be the last time I bother you. Thank you very much.Editingman (talk) 15:06, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Haha... you can bother me anytime for anything concerning Wikipedia. It would be "中国伊斯兰教史". --Joshua Say "hi" to me!What I've done? 15:18, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Once again, greatly appreciate it. Editingman (talk) 17:43, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The articles have been made and have been translated but there only needs to be links to these articles,..so this is the section from Religion in China and if I have this translation and can use these sentences for other links. I got the citations, that is not a problem. It is shameful that I should ask again after I said I would not ask but take all the time you wish on this and there is no hurry at all.

中國伊斯蘭教 dates to an envoy led by the uncle of 穆罕默德 himself, eighteen years after his death. 唐高宗 showed esteem for 伊斯蘭教 and established怀圣寺 in memory of the prophet.

穆斯林 immigrated to 中國 for trade and became influential within society. They dominated the import/export industry during the 宋朝. The office of director general of shipping was consistently held by a 穆斯林. Larger immigration began when hundreds of thousands of穆斯林were relocated, during the元朝, to help administer 中國. 也黑迭兒丁 led the construction of the Yuan capital of汗八里, present-day 北京. Six of the most trusted generals of 洪武帝 , the founder of the 明朝, were 穆斯林. 藍玉案 led a victory over the 蒙古族, ending the蒙古族 dream to reconquer 中國. 郑和 led seven expeditions to the 印度洋. 穆斯林 who were descended from earlier immigration assimiliated by speaking Chinese dialects and by adopting Chinese names and culture. This era is sometimes called the Golden Age of 伊斯蘭教 in 中國. 南京 become an important center of Islamic study.

However, relations worsened during the 清朝, which prohibited the construction of清真寺 and the 朝覲. The 清朝 suppressed five bloody 回族 revolts and it is sometimes labeled as 種族滅絕. The清朝 killed a million people in the 杜文秀起义 and several million in the同治陕甘回变. A policy called 洗回had long been advocated by government officials. After the fall of the清朝, 孫中山 proclaimed 五族共和 and included the回族. In 1911, the provinces of 青海, 甘肃 and 宁夏 fell to a 穆斯林 family known as the 馬家軍.

Today, 伊斯蘭教 is experiencing a revival. There is an upsurge in Islamic expression and many nation-wide Islamic associations have organized to co-ordinate inter-ethnic activities among穆斯林. 穆斯林 are found in every province in中國. Of 55 officially recognized minorities, ten groups are predominately 穆斯林. In 2006 a record number of Chinese traveled to Mecca for the朝覲, up 40 percent from the previous year.

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Re this edit, I don't know personally but, as I understand it, Article 152(2) of the constitution of Malaysia provided that the English language may be used in both houses of harliament, in the legislative assembly of every State, and for all other official purposes, until parliament otherwise provides. It would be useful if you could cite the action in which parliament has provided otherwise. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

When the Constitution was drafted, it was decided that both Malay and English shall be the official languages for a period of ten years, after that Malay would be the sole official language. The key word here being "until Parliament otherwise provides". In 1967, the Parliament of Malaysia passed a law, the National Language Act making the national language (the Malay language) as the official language of Malaysia. English, however, may be used for some official purposes. --Joshua Say "hi" to me!What I've done? 05:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. That is precisely the information I was looking for. I will add a footnote to that effect to the article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

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Precisely speaking, Chinese Pinyin means romanization of Chinese, that is different from Mandarin Pinyin, which is only a kind of Chinese Pinyin only suitable for Mandarin, which means it is not suitable for romanization of others like Cantonese, Taiwanese etc. The long name of Mandarin Pinyin is Chinese Mandarin Pinyin i.e. "漢語普通話拼音". Due to the definition of Chinese Pinyin is a general concept, it is often implied to Chinese Mandarin Pinyin, but actually it is not equal. If Chinese Pinyin only refer to Chinese Mandarin Pinyin, then it does not respect other Chinese languages, which is not the dialect of Mandarin, but is the dialect of Chinese. Secondly, Chinese Mandarin Pinyin lacks of entering tones "入聲", which is the characteristic of Chinese, that is why it cannot represent the precise definition of Chinese Pinyin. If Chinese Pinyin only refer to Mandarin Pinyin, then Cantonese, Taiwanese are not Chinese. That is of course not true.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.76.1.248 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 17 July 2009

Please sign your comments when posting on talk pages. When I mean "talk page" in my edit summaries, it means the article's talk page, not my user talk page. For this case, the talk page is Talk:Pinyin. Posting this on the article's talk page will enable other editors to follow the discussion as well. I will copy your comments and post my reply there. --Joshua Say "hi" to me!What I've done? 16:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

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  Happy First Edit Day, Joshua/Archive 8, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

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Oh my, I forgot it's my third anniversary on Wikipedia! Thanks! --Joshua Say "hi" to me!What I've done? 05:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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  Hey, Joshua. Just stopping by to wish you a Happy Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
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Sorry for the confusion. I was asking if you could please translate the section above. I already translated some of the words that I could. I need this to make links to the articles that were made. I hope this will not be too much trouble. Editingman (talk) 17:22, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, here's a rough translation of the paragraph:
中国伊斯兰教起源于穆罕默德去世后十八年，由穆罕默德的叔父带领使团出使中国。唐高宗对伊斯兰教表示敬仰，修建了名为怀圣寺的清真寺以纪念先知穆罕默德。
穆斯林通过贸易移民到中国，具有巨大的社会影响力。宋朝时期，穆斯林控制了出入口贸易，主管贸易的官员为一名穆斯林。元朝时期，成千上万的穆斯林移民到中国，协助蒙古族管理中国。也黑迭兒丁带领修建了汗八里（元大都，现为北京）。明朝开国皇帝洪武帝身边的大将有六人为穆斯林。藍玉打败了蒙古族，粉碎了蒙古族重掌中国的梦想。 郑和带领船队七次下西洋。早期穆斯林移民的后代也在语言、姓名及习俗方面融入了中国社会。这个时代有时被称为伊斯兰教 在中国的黄金时代。南京成为重要的伊斯兰教学习中心。
清朝时期，穆斯林及朝廷的关系转恶，朝廷禁止穆斯林修建清真寺及前往麦加 朝覲。清朝 五次 回族起义的镇压，有时被列为種族滅絕。清朝官兵在镇压杜文秀起义时屠杀了一百万人，同治陕甘回变时屠杀了几百万人。政府官员长期以来倡导洗回政策。清朝灭亡后，孫中山倡导了包括回族的五族共和。1911年，青海，甘肃和宁夏省由信仰伊斯兰教的馬家軍实际控制。
近年，中国伊斯蘭教逐渐复苏起来。穆斯林的自我认同及表述增加，许多全国性的穆斯林组织也主办了跨族穆斯林活动。中国全国每一个省份都有穆斯林居民。 中国官方承认的55个少数民族当中有十族普遍为穆斯林。2006年，前往麦加朝覲的中国穆斯林人数创下纪录，比上一年增加了百分之40。
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