Jaimesaid

Patagonia

Regarding your recent edits.

Please, use the WP:Edit summary to explain your edits to other editors.

Also, please take a look here: Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle to learn how wikipedia is edited.

As far as the chilean limits of patagonia, you may be right, but please do edit correctly. And the ancient map, does not fit in a contemporary geography article.

Thanks, --IANVS (talk) 06:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome!

Here are a few links I found handy when first starting out on Wikipedia. Also, I'd encourage you to check out WikiProject Chile and join our collaborative effort to improve articles about Chile. Thanks! - Ruodyssey (talk) 09:44, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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Talk page Patagonia

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Patagonia, you may be blocked from editing. --IANVS (talk) 04:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Various issues.

First of all, if you felt hurt personally because of what I pointed out regarding an edit, and its purpoted sources, please forgive me.

But I'm sure you should take notice of how wikipedia is edited, so as to avoid any further misunderstanding between you and other editors.

Regarding you message in my talk page, please consider that

-In Wikipedia no one has the right to claim The Truth in any matter. Instead, WP aspire to verifiability
-In Wikipedia anyone can edit, as long as his editions are backed by notable, reliable, relevant sources.
-More important, all realiable and relevant sources should be taken into account, so as to avoid relying on a single Point of View as much as possible.
-In WP, edit discussions at the talk page are not to be taken personal.

Regarding what has been happening

1) I really don't care WHO you are. That is not important at all in WP. I'm not talking to you "personally" (I'm just trying to help you learning WP policies and behavior guidelines), nor you have any editing privileges for being an historian or whatever you say you are in real life. See: WP:OWN. BTW, you may be interested in this: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.
2) Your single source is surely not the only relevant and reliable source for the article in question. See: WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFIABILITY
3) Regarding the article, I'm just behaving in a conservative manner, restoring what has been longstanding versions in the face of what appears to be a massive edit based on just one source (which I don't know if it is remarkable enough, but I suspect it doesn't). See: WP:UNDUE, WP:BRD
4) Regarding the article's talk page, I've been discussing the editions and the sources. This is not personal. On the other hand your deletions of my edits at the talk page are WP:vandalism.
5) Regarding your talk page, I've been not threatening you. I just wanted to let you know policy guidelines. If you cannot or do not want to comply with policies you may be blocked.
6) Regarding what you have written in my talk page, please avoid personal remarks. This is also considered a fault of civility.

So, don't take this personal. But please follow the previous links to learn how wikipedia works. Or you can start here. Salut, --IANVS (talk) 01:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, Issue solved, I have been reading how Wikipedia works after your notice, it is correct what you said, I am new here, I think I have very much to say on this matter. It would be wise if we stop this misunderstanding and I authorize you to delete both yours and my sayings in the page of dispute.--Jaimesaid (talk) 04:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Your recent vandalism report

The report you recently left at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism was moved to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#False and misleading. You may wish to provide more information there regarding your concerns. Some diff links would be very useful for showing us exactly what your difficulties have been. Larry V (talk | email) 21:07, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

The WP:ANI discussion has been closed, as we have no influence over the Spanish Wikipedia. Larry V (talk | email) 18:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

September 2011

Do not add personal information about other contributors to Wikipedia, as you did at Patagonia. Wikipedia operates on the principle that every contributor has the right to remain completely anonymous. Posting personal information about a user is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's harassment policy. Wikipedia policy on this issue is strictly enforced and your edits have been reverted or removed, not least because such information can appear on web searches. Wikipedia's privacy policy is there to protect the privacy of every user, including you. Persistently adding personal information about other contributors may result in you being blocked from editing. Gerardw (talk) 22:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok I understand,Thanks for the warning. My intention is no other than to "warn" people who in good faith, as me, try to contribute to Wikipedia and see how others in bad faith publish what they want and say what they want about me. I have no problem in editing my sources on the subjects of interest of Patagonia, in fact all my sources relevant to Patagonia which I have gathered and published a book as historian on this matter. But in doing so, I have been blocked by an Argentine person called Nereo, who constantly defends his point of view without backup and erraces everything I edit, to the extreme of a mounted machine with others who have the expirience in WP in order to follow his immediate command to block me. They have succeded in this twice in Spanish. But I do not think this Media is ment for such a war. Because of this, 3 Chilean Authorities have been warned by me and they are monitoring Mr NEREO, Chucao and his gang very closely. That was all my intention on editing such note, as NEREO leaves traces of his personal touch everywhere about me, under a very silly game.--Jaimesaid (talk) 23:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

You need to start discussing the editing issue involved. Warning other users and contacting the authorities does not resolve the content issue. What is the source for your edits and why are they better? User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:47, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

It is not a question of better or worse sources. They are reiable sources from the libraries of Madrid, Seville, Paris, Buenos Aires and Santiago, which are all stated in my book. There the sourses I have gathered through seven years of investigation are multiple, from different reliable historians, geographers, geologist, arquelogist, paleontologist, agronomers and others that site the limits of Northern Patagonia perfectly well through cartographic descriptions, ethnical , historical and botanical points of view.I have quoted many of these sources in WP in spanish and Enlish as a contribution to WP but Nereo constantly errases them, so non of these are up there know in Spanish, you can visit historial. The authorities are investigating Nereo and his gang for their repeatedly misconduct and constant method over a year or more to iniciate a literary war against our country. He has blocked me twice in spanish and have errazed Arbitrarially all content other Chilean editors try to edit or correct. We believe this is a payed machination from the Argentine authorities. That work 24/7 in shifts in order to protect their text Patagonia as the only valid argument and the only source, against Chilean soveranity limits within our country.--190.91.134.233 (talk) 15:53, 23 September 2011 (UTC)--Jaimesaid (talk) 16:05, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

If you are not willing or able to cite sources for controversial edits, I'm afraid you will not be able to edit here. I have blocked you indefinitely. User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:24, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

You have been indefinitely blocked from editing Wikipedia for personal attacks. User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:28, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

As some confidential evidence was the basis for the block, appeal of your block is directly to the Arbitration Committee. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:33, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Citing sources

I have allways been willing to give all my sources for Patagonia. How can I do that when they errase what I edit and I am blocked?--Jaimesaid (talk) 20:55, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you mislead me with the statement, "It is not a question of better or worse sources. They are reiable sources from the libraries of Madrid, Seville, Paris, Buenos Aires and Santiago, which are all stated in my book." For, you see, it IS a question of sources. Sources in Spanish are acceptable on the English Wikipedia, although English references are, of course, preferred. Perhaps you could point me to some examples of sources you cited? User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:23, 24 September 2011 (UTC)