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English, Scottish, Welsh and British

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Hi, i see you made a change to Hugh Trevor-Roper yesterday, changing his nationality from British to English. I do not have a problem with that in this case but thought you may like to take a look at WP:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom if you have not seen it before.

Basically there is not always a right or wrong way to call someone from the UK, In Hughs case he may of been born / educated in England but that would not stop his nationality from being British. Anyway just thought i would give you that link, helps layout what the current consensus is on such things and in what circumstances which nationality should be put. Thanks BritishWatcher (talk) 22:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

I changed Roper's nationality because many feel that his writing is anti-Scottish and the part of GB he is from may well be relevant to that. It is an interesting problem. It is an issue I am very much concerned with since a large part of Wikipedia is, in my view and that of some others, anti-Scottish.

JScotia (talk) 18:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

I disagree with you on wiki being anti Scottish. Wikipedia goes out of its way to allow Scottish people to be described as Scottish (and other UK nationalities), that is something that did not have to be accepted, it would be quite reasonable for all British citizens to only be listed as British in line with their legal nationality / citizenship. BritishWatcher (talk) 18:13, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Being "allowed" to be called Scottish (and when one is that hardly seems unreasonable) isn't the only issue. Numerous entries have a pro-English bias. And any objection to that bias tends to be met with outcries of "anti-English".

Scotland has its own parliament and it's own identity and its own history quite apart from being British. And it happens that Scotland was at war with England on and off for centuries which is not anti-English but simply a fact.

JScotia (talk) 18:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Reply