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Michael Harriman

Likely the same bloke who keeps forgetting his password, I've blocked the old ones and left the new one untouched. GiantSnowman 19:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Louis Rowley

Louis Rowley is English professional footballer who plays as a Center Back for Leicester City. He have played UEFA Youth League. He is one of the recognized youth footballer in England.He should have a wikipedia article because his news are recorded on BBC,Goal.com and other Bigger Football News Media. Sbh Talk To Sbh 13:32, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, he has not played at senior club level or for his National team, so he fails WP:NFOOTBALL JMHamo (talk) 13:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

No Brother, there are the players with the same level of him like:

• James Pearson (footballer, born 1993)
• Adam Dawson (footballer)
• Tom Hopper (footballer)

And these players are even in low status than Louis Rowley :

• Michael Cain (footballer)
• Ryan Watson (footballer)

Thanks ! Sbh Talk To Sbh 13:40, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Outfielders in goal category

Hello. Was wondering why you'd added it to Robbie Savage? As far as I can see, there's nothing in the article to support it... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

I was going to include it, you noticed before I could add it :) Here is the source. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Likewise Marius Trésor, Agustín Pelletieri, Glenn Hoddle, Alex Dawson, Lucas Radebe, Bobby Moore, Nat Lofthouse, Lee McEvilly... Strikes me if it's something so trivial that people are going to have to shoehorn sourced mention of it to quite so many of the qualifying articles just to back up inclusion of the category, it's too trivial and non-defining to warrant a category at all. More suited to a list, assuming it's something reliable sources have discussed, which they might well have. What do you think? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Actually I was thinking about nominating it for deletion, as I agree with you that it's probably not the best category. I might create a new article when I have time with a list of outfield players who have played in goal, much better than the category. If you agree, I will nominate it now. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

By all means nominate it. Might be worth mentioning to ‎Egghead06 who's also added it to at least one page. If you do take the list route, if you can find RS that talk about outfield players going in goal in general, or at least at a level above the tabloid 10 players you never thought you'd see in goal, it'd help. And bear in mind that in pre-substitution days, it was a fairly common occurrence. As to a candidate for inclusion, I offer Geoff Horsfield, who made a cameo appearance in this lively little fixture. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:46, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

The more I think about it, the more I am leaning to how trivial the subject is, and probably does not warrant its own article either. I do have reliable sources but it's not really a notable event. Thanks for contacting me to allow me reflect on the subject :) JMHamo (talk) 19:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

My crappy photos

I cropped it from this (also my own work). Please, grab your much superior camera and go around League Two grounds to take better photos than I can. '''tAD''' (talk) 23:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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Can you please undo the speedy deletion of the article I wrote. It's fixed. :) - Patriotsontop

Hello, I am a little confused as to why I recevied this notice today when the article was resubmitted before the Holidays. If you could help me I would appreciate it. JMHamo left a message on your talk page in "Your draft article, User:JenniferConneley " Hello JenniferConneley. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Lex Lumiere". The page w...

Frank Lampard

If he does it again let me know. Revert, warn, block if required. GiantSnowman 09:06, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Port Vale F.C. vs. Port Vale

Saw that you had recently edited Achille Campion's page to reflect the "Port Vale"-style naming over the "Port Vale F.C."-style. Not really sure what the terminology for that usage is, however I have seen no evidence that one style is preferred over the other. However in looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players, while admittedly not an end-all be-all guide, it seems as though names are usually stated using the "F.C." style and not the shortened version. Can you please point me to a consensus to the contrary, otherwise I'll stick with my "F.C." style. Any input would be much appreciated! GauchoDude (talk) 21:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

The consensus is without the F.C., like I did on Achille Campion's article. Feel free to discuss this at WT:FOOTY if you would like further opinion. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 22:04, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Perfect, if it's consensus then there surely must have already been a discussion so no need for my participation. Please point me to it as I can't seem to find it? Thanks! – GauchoDude (talk) 22:15, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I can't find anything explicitly but for players playing for UK football (soccer) teams, we've always piped the F.C. (or A.F.C.), as you'll notice from ANY UK based player article you look at. If you would like this supported by other members of WikiProject Football, I'm more than happy to begin a new thread about this topic. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 22:27, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

• Just to chime in, as another WP Football member; JMHamo is right. I think it has been a consensus for so long that no one can actually remember when it started, much less where it was decided. I certainly don't know of any time it was different in my three years of being here. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 22:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
• Also, I'd never actually come across that template before (or don't remember seeing it), and it seems like most of it matches standard procedure, but some of it doesn't. It is also really inconsistent; I'll go and clean it up a bit. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 22:40, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

VictorSport

You'll have to take it to SPI, sorry, I'm not seeing it as clear DUCK. GiantSnowman 17:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

LFC Staff

Hi JMHamo

Wow I feel out of my depth on this!! Not much of a HTML guru (at all, in fact... Just feeling my way through this...) Thanks for your note - fair enough on the revision of staff. I must admit, I think the level of detail on the current page is a little weak but if it's been discussed before and decided as satisfactory, who am I to argue?? I think the amendment was badly done (i.e., I have no idea how to make the column widths different, which I think was the main problem...)

Is it worth re-hashing or is there a set 10 roles that every club's page has on it? I did have a look through WT:FOOTY but couldn't find any reference to staff specifically...

Thanks Kris (talk) 17:03, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Ake and Brown

There I have sited my sources. I believe BBC and ESPN and reliable enough for sources correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.118.113.145 (talk) 17:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, they are reliable sources. JMHamo (talk) 17:05, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Carlton Black article

Hi JM, thanks for the message regarding my article about Carlton Black, the songwriter, which was refused upon first submission. Well, I decided, or realised, that there was a lot more about his most famous song: "Tell Him", than there is online about him, so I redid the article about the song, not about the songwriter - and it was accepted, so I left the original article alone. Wins all round as the poor bloke will still get to be on Wiki after all anyway! So need need to do anything about the article. You can see the new page at: Tell Him(Carlton Black song). Thanks for getting in touch though. Paul K PaukiPKK (talk) 14:01, 19 December 2014 (UTC)PaukiPKK

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Kostas Stafylidis

Have you got any idea as to why Stafylidis is not suspended? I assumed he would be (I updated the page before the FA website updated, so apologies for that!); he's picked up five yellow cards? Spa-Franks (talk) 23:36, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Ignore that, have found the answer. Spa-Franks (talk) 23:37, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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Yohan Cabaye

Jmhamo you edited the Yohan Cabaye page because I did not cite sufficient sources, but I was merely analysing statistics. Cabaye has only started a couple of times since signing in to years for psg, but with newcastle he was the star. This is enough for me to edit the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammed Al-Ghalib (talk • contribs) 18:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Reliable sources are always required, especially when it's about a WP:BLP, so that's why I reverted you. JMHamo (talk) 18:19, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Bideford seasons deletion

i see you didnt created a topic about article deletion in the 'Articles for deletion/Log' so please do it. also i'd like to ask, why did you chose this one article among many other non-league club season articles? Martinklavier (talk) 13:40, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't see every article that needs to be deleted immediately, but as you've brought it to my attention, I will make sure they are nominated too. Also, could you please let me know the "log" you're referring to? If it's the one at WP:FOOTY, it's not obligatory to add PROD noms there. JMHamo (talk) 15:43, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I meant this one - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2015 January 5 Martinklavier (talk) 15:51, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

That's the AfD log and not the PROD. PRODs are added to a category such as Category:Proposed deletion as of 5 January 2015 JMHamo (talk) 16:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Excuse me, what is PROD? I thought that anything proposed for deletion must be descussed before. Martinklavier (talk) 16:29, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion (PROD) is a way to suggest an article for uncontroversial deletion. They are deleted after 7 days if there's no objections. If you want to "discuss" your articles at AfD, you need to remove the PROD tag and give a reason in the edit summary why you're objecting. JMHamo (talk) 16:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

It would be interesting if you'll nominate this one List of Margate F.C. seasons for deletion. Obviously better article, but this club is never been in Football league too, so WP:NSEASONS Martinklavier (talk) 20:42, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

You are missing the point. List of Margate F.C. seasons passes WP:GNG due to the presence of reliable sources, and is not just a list of stats. You admit yourself that it's "Obviously better article". I'll quote WP:NSEASONS again - "Team season articles should consist mainly of well-sourced prose, not just statistics and lists of players. Wikipedia is not a stats directory".. JMHamo (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Which reliable sources? Final league tables? I can copy the links to reliable sources from pages of league seasons - 5 minutes for all the articles. Lack of prose? Again, all of this prose is just copied from article about club - can be done in a moment. And is this enough reasons to delete articles instead of improving it? Martinklavier (talk) 21:06, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Non-league list of seasons

Probably worth taking to AFD IMO for a wider discussion - but to potentially avoid all the extra work involved in that perhaps @Number 57: could please explain their PROD removals in a bit more detail here? If you are satisfied with the explanation, no need to waste time with AFD. GiantSnowman 13:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Basically because I felt the prod rationales weren't valid – three reasons were quoted, WP:NSEASONS, WP:NOTSTATS and WP:GNG. NSEASONS clearly isn't valid because that refers to individual seasons. NOTSTATS isn't valid, as otherwise we wouldn't have featured lists like List of Ipswich Town F.C. seasons (NOTSTATS should override GNG as it's a policy as opposed to a guideline). As for the GNG, I think these articles are basically content forks of the history sections of the clubs in question. If the club itself is notable (and all of them are), then there shouldn't be a problem with separating out a long part of the article. As I said in the non-League task force discussion, for relatively new clubs, the lists can easily be contained in the articles (e.g. A.F.C. Sudbury#League history), but for clubs like Redditch (over 100 years old) or Corby (over 50), I can't see it fitting into the article terribly well. Number 57 13:10, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

A technicality Number57 to be honest, if consensus is that non-FPL teams should not need there own individual season articles I am not sure why they would need their own individual articles summarising season by season performance. Personally I don't think there is anything in the spirit of NSEASONS and NOTSTATS that can't be applied here really. Your comment about List_of_Ipswich_Town_F.C._seasons is not really accurate either, in the main, this is a list that links to individual season articles and so is a genuine list, the non-league ones JMH nominated do not and therefore are simply stat dumps. Where notable events in any given season have occurred it is always preferable that these be discussed in sourced prose in the history section of the article, where nothing notable has happened then I would argue there is no need for any particular record, especially in a standalone stat-heavy article. For what it is worth I would support the deletion of these articles were they taken to AfD. Fenix down (talk) 17:30, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, with non-league clubs I'm not sure what merit a separate article brings; the content could, and perhaps should, be covered on the main page, or perhaps a History of Wiki F.C. article which probably has more worth. GiantSnowman 18:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman:@Fenix down:@Number 57: Lets try to summarize it somehow. Creating those articles, i was guided by List of Margate F.C. seasons article, featured one. As you can see, Margate is just typical non-league club without Football League history, remarkable cup runs or anything. So, reliable sources similar to ones used in Margate article may be found for any of the clubs under discussion. And here i couldnt agree (again) with JMHamo, who told that Margate passes GNG, and others are not. The subject is truly identical, the only difference is Margates list is finished while others are not, but it couldnt be a reason for PROD. (And the other difference is Margates list is featured, and others was proposed for deletion) So i was confused by the decision to put my articles into PROD while we have such examples. The other way is to put Margate's list to AfD, of course. But this is truly disappointing situation, when authors see the articles they thought must be exemplary after some time become unacceptable. Martinklavier (talk) 15:43, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Wednesday socks

 Done GiantSnowman 18:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Víctor Valdés

 Done GiantSnowman 19:17, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Football disambiguation

Hello. FWIW, and I'm not going to revert you on it, disambiguating Ben Thompson as (English footballer) is probably what the MoS would have us do, given the other footballers are Australian. See WP:NCSP#Association football (soccer). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:35, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, you make a good point as always. I will self revert. JMHamo (talk) 12:37, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Krystian Bielik

Someone beat me to it... GiantSnowman 18:29, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

nominations for deletion

Hi, I noticed some of your nominations like Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Oakville Cricket Club give the reason as G7. This was not emptied by the writer, but by someone else (same applied to some other pages too). So please check the history to see who blanked it. However it did have an afc template before blanking, so I used G13 to chop it anyway. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Fair point.. thanks. JMHamo (talk) 22:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

G13 nominations

You do realize there's a community authorized and BAG endorsed set of tasks (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/HasteurBot 2 and Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/HasteurBot) that HastuerBot does so that there is a very definite 6 months + 30 days of the page creator being "on notice" that their Draft could be deleted at any time. It's been my understanding that the Admins that patrol the CSD category prefer to let the automated process handle the notifying/nominating and giving the user at least 30 days to make a single registered change. The admins are comfortable with the bot only tagging articles that 100% certainly qualified for G13, however when users get involved the admins need to slow down and investigate every last nomination to ensure there are no mistakes.Hasteur (talk) 19:49, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

So what is the problem? JMHamo (talk) 20:31, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm suggesting that you not nominate other articles for G13. Hasteur (talk) 01:59, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

No, I will carry on as I have been doing for the last year. Thank you. Your bot is great but not as great as a human checking. JMHamo (talk) 02:01, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Personally I'm fine with tagging pages by hand, no harm in that. However, I just deleted a couple of pages that you nominated as CSD G2, test page, instead of CSD G13. I'm not a bureaucratic person, I don't care, but you might come across someone that does feel like shouting about categorizing things that are being deleted anyway :) Keegan (talk) 03:49, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Suso

I'm afraid I don't understand why you reverted my edits to the Suso article, even removing a link to Liverpool's website which confirmed the move. It is understood that he was to join Milan in July but then reports from both Milan and Italian news networks / channels such as SkySport24 and Sky Sports News. Now that both clubs have announced the completion of the transfer, he must be a Milan player after signing his four-and-a-half-year contract. What credible reason can you present to me which will explain your actions? If you're referring to the deadline of when a players' signing has become official according to contractual terms then I understand, however this is not a case of Torres joining officially on 5 January. As far as I know there isn't a specific date for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbb245 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bbb245: What User name did you use to do these edits as you are only allowed one User account on Wikipedia... JMHamo (talk) 21:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Spud Shed

Hello. I also wanted to nominate Spud Shed for deletion, but after doing some research on Google News, this company seems notable and it is covered in major Australian newspapers - see here. I wanted to tag it for later improvements. What are your thoughts? --BiH (talk) 14:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@BiH: If you think the article can pass WP:GNG then by all means save it. Thanks for the message. JMHamo (talk) 14:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@JMHamo:: Thanks for the understanding. Cheers! --BiH (talk) 14:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion

There's a discussion there that you might feel able to contribute to. (I'd have pinged you with Rankersbo, but I couldn't remember your initials...). Peridon (talk) 12:01, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Jon Stead

 Done - just needed toning down and a ref, really. GiantSnowman 17:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Sergio Ramos

 Done - though you and others (@Qed237: @Kante4: @Ilikeeatingwaffles:) should please bear in mind WP:TAGTEAM. There is no discussion on the article talk page. GiantSnowman 16:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Deleted contribs

I've just checked your last 500 and it only goes back 5 days... GiantSnowman 13:32, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Hist move

The hist moves are used for pages that multiple people have worked on. Since I was the only one that worked on that article, then posted it, it probably won't matter in the long run anyway. --Kbabej (talk) 04:03, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@Kbabej: I wasn't completely sure, so I thought I would err on the side of caution after all that was discussed on the AfC talk page. Feel free to get a second opinion. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 04:06, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I didn't actually know I wasn't supposed to be doing that (writing the draft, then blanking and pasting in a new article) until a few days ago when I was told that was a no-no. You're right that usually it would need a hist move, but since I was the only one editing the articles and there's a very long list that would need to be hist moved, the admins said to just leave those and going forward not to delete and paste anymore. So you're on top of it! :) --04:10, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Joe Vitale 5

That's fine, I'd also like to apologize, and let you know that the message on my talk page. I don't want to seem like I'm asking for too much, but could you please help me with the article Rochdale A.F.C. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 08:41, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

League One

The move was done by well established consensus and policy per WP:Common name and WP:Precise as the common usage is League One, and League One is sufficient to describe the topic (as evidenced by the fact that League One used to redirect to Football League One). If you feel there may be a case for using a less precise name and a lesswell used name, then procedure is that you start a discussion on the talkpage. We tend to follow policy by default, and discuss when we feel that policy is preventing us from doing something better. As regards your edit summary please see Wikipedia:Don't revert due solely to "no consensus". I have left a note on the talkpage. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 20:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

• You should never have moved it twice, however. Linking to some random essay doesn't change that, or make you right. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:02, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

RfC - Helper Script access

An RfC has been opened at RfC to physically restrict access to the Helper Script. You are invited to comment. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:31, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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Paul Pogba

 Done GiantSnowman 08:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Shane Ferguson

Please be a little more careful with removing factually correct information. As of the 2nd February Shane Fersguson is on loan at Rangers F.C. from Newcastle, along with four other Newcastle players. Mabuska ^(talk) 22:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

@Mabuska: I don't agree with you. If there is no reliable source included I am right to revert, especially for BLP articles. The WP:BURDEN is on the person adding to make sure the stuff they include is verifiable. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:01, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I agree about WP:BURDEN but a {{cn}} tag would of sufficed for something so uncontroversial. I note the later addition of it by another editor to the infobox was not reverted despite no source being provided. Mabuska ^(talk) 23:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I would have reverted that too if I saw it. I can't see everything all the time. No reliable source means revert on BLP articles. JMHamo (talk) 23:19, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Damien Duff

Sorry, but the mistake is on your side, because he, like all the irish players (besides Steve Staunton?), have not only played games, wich were recognized by FIFA. That's the reason, why Damien Duff and for example John O'Shea are not appearing on the list of the FIFA Century Club.

Thx anyways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.72.227.156 (talk) 20:05, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, that's fair enough. I revert my edit. JMHamo (talk) 20:08, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Nice of you. But, as you probably know by now, I took myself the freedom to reverse the re-edit. Thx and have a nice evening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.72.227.156 (talk) 21:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Mounties Wanderers FC

Hey JMHamo,

I'm not questioning the deletion proposal, I created that article ages back and completely forgot to add anything of note to it. Hahaha. I do believe that I initially created this page as it was the only club in the second division of Football in New South Wales that didn't have its own article.

In short, delete it if need be, but now that I've been made aware of it, I can try in the next few days to add a lot more info to the page.

PS - Your username reminds me of the "all tracks" cheat from ToCA Touring Cars on PS1 which was "JHAMMO". :P - J man708 (talk) 01:25, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

2014 Jubilee Shield

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from 2014 Jubilee Shield, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Gopherbashi (talk) 04:45, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

 Done JMHamo (talk) 12:54, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Sheyi Ojo

 Done. GiantSnowman 17:30, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Edits wrongly removed

Hi, I've made contributions that have been reverted as it's supposedly vandalism and incorrect information but this is not the case. Now, my edits have been removed and out-of-date information is now being used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.90.64 (talk) 00:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Resolved

JMHamo (talk) 01:08, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Matt Crooks

hi I have edited details on matt crooks twice and noticed that it keep being change by you . I can guarantee that Matt crooks was not born in Huddersfield as stated on website or media . He was born in Leeds West Yorkshire .I can confirm that as a very close relative of his birth place and height is 6 ft 3 ins .

Please amend above . THANKS

Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information; it's especially important for living people. If you have a source, please let me know. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 20:53, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Aware IM

Hello JMHamo,

Thank you for reviewing my article about Aware IM.

This article is about a software system that has been around for more than 12 years and is used by people in more than 30 countries around the world. Not only that, but they also formed a development community that maintains their own resources to help others learn and use Aware IM.

It is my firm belief that the article showed external references to satisfy the notability requirement and is free from marketing language. If I misunderstand the Wikipedia requirement, please correct me and give me a chance to update the article rather than deleting it.

Surely it deserves no less attention than similar tools such as Filemaker, Alpha 5 or FlowerApp, each of which has its own Wikipedia page even though their history and widespread is apparently different.

Sincerely yours, Pen93 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pen93 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Native Son (American Band) article

Please feel free to G13 the article...Now that I have become more knowledgeable about Wikipedia requirements...I changed my mind and felt the group, though composed of accomplished musicians, did nothing significant enough to merit being in wikipedia.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ASSISTANCE and mentoring here... I truly appreciate your work...Best to you...

Poekneegurl (talk) 02:16, 15 February 2015 (UTC)poekneegurl

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danny Ward (footballer, born 1993)

Hi JMHamo,
Just to let you know despite your Delete vote I've closed it as Keep seeing as the nominator never gave a reason at all for deletion,
If you personally feel it should be deleted I have no objections to you renominating,
Thanks and Happy Editing, –Davey2010^Talk 23:54, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

@Davey2010:  Done JMHamo (talk) 23:55, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

666bet

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from 666bet, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Just Chilling (talk) 01:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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