User talk:JHMM13/Archive1

This is the archived material for all of 2005. In the future, I'll be archiving this stuff based on months or...whatever. 2005 didn't contain much information, so here it is:

Welcome!

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Skyfox box cover

JHMM13, I noticed you uploaded the Skyfox game cover. However, you didn't enter where you got it from. If you just lifted it off the Internet, we can't use it unless you get permission from the website's owner/admin. Game covers are fair use, but we can't just take scans from random places off the Internet without permission. Indicate where you got it from and if you received permission. Or you can indicate that you took the scan yourself and that you're releasing it under the GFDL or into the public domain. Thanks. — Frecklefoot | Talk 19:14, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

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Don't blank your Talk page

JHMM13, it is considered bad form to blank to contents of your Talk page. The contents should be left intact so that other users may see any issues being discussed. This prevents them from having to cover the issue again or seeing any resolutions that have been reached. When a Talk page gets too long, it can be archived, but it shoud never be deleted permanently. This doesn't apply to vandalism, of course. Peace. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:25, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Captain WikiNazi. It was a mistake that I can rectify. Go hang out in some other corner of the internet. JHMM13 15:35, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

To anyone coming to check out who I am, please notice that April of 2005 was a quite horrible time for me, and I've changed a lot since then. Also, I was a newbie without a cause, coming from more vicious webstes looking for a fight. JHMM13 (T | C) 08:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Add: Boy, I sure was stupid and this was entirely my fault. What's funny is that I refer back to what Frecklefoot wrote here many times when other users blank their talk pages :-). JHMM13 (T | C) 06:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Nothing improper in your report I can see. I've blocked 82.148.97.67. Thanks for the report. --Nlu 06:29, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism warnings

It might be better to use the standard vandalism warnings -- which includes the possibilities that the person might have been an "innocent" new user still trying things out. Take a look, when you get a chance, at the {{test}} and {{test-n}} series. Thanks. --Nlu 07:15, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Vegan edits

Hi.

For the record, the article has been (over-)discussed on the talk pages and I have taken part in discussions. The discussion was taken consideration whilst attempting to knock some shape back into this topic of vegan and, no, the changes don't radically alter this article.

The main intent was to bring the article back within the Wiki guideline length and, from a journalistic point of view, remove the many duplications, poor punctuation and general flab, remembering that it is meant to be a definition of a topic within an encyclopedia rather than a discussion forum of a contentious subject. I believe that the edits bring it back to focus on the subject matter and, indeed, would like to see it even shorter.

The one contention that is likely to remain is the complete edit out of the " environmental criticism " because this is a particularly weak from an academic point of view, i.e. increased soya bean for animal consumption being used as a criticism of a vegetarian diet, the lack of equating in increased animal feed production for the proposed replacement animal husbandry and the ignorance of other environmental factors in deciding not just agricultural forms but diet and lifestyle.

Had it been a strong, honest or better constructed argument, it could have stayed in but coming from a self confessed " gun loving warrior " I am doubting that it is going to develop. If there is a negative environmental critique to be made against veganism, I would like to see it but, to be frank, the guy is shooting his cause in the foot by trying the way he did and is trying to ride roughshod over other contributors questioning it.

Yup, and I dont always sign in to edit if not at my desktop machine!

Thanks. User anon 13:14, Noc 22, 2005 (GMT)

Cool, thanks for the reference! --JHMM13 15:26, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Please read the edits and the discussion page for consensus [ or lack there of ] on the anorexic issue and dont just get sucked into this again Thanks. Skinwalker is a great games player but with a clear agenda. See his statements calling us " veggie brandishing hordes " [1]195.82.106.69 06:24, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I will revert massive edits by IP users if they seriously change the article without leaving an edit summary that says "please see talk page for discussion." There is far too much vandalism out there for me to read through every talk page when an IP user reformats entire secions. JHMM13 (T | C) 17:08, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Dictators

I put to you that the definition of a dictator is objective - being a dictionary definition which is easily applied.

Yours,

jucifer 09:26, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I think Fidel Castro would disagree with you and call himself a benevolent, democratically elected leader, making the definition subjective. Also, I believe Saddam Hussein had an election once where he won with nearly 100% of the vote, which technically means he's democratically elected and the people want him. Unless you're talking about something else? JHMM13 16:45, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. In seems to me that NPOV, means a consensual understanding the term - Castro may object, but wiki follows the mainstream line when things are uncontroversial like "the definition of the word dictator".

On the talk page for the article I collate 8 definitions from dictionaries that clearly say what defines a dictator (some add features that they often have also.)

Lack of Democratic election/abuses etc. are common features but not defining ones (note Hitler was elected). The definition which is essentially:

• Absolute power + unrestrained by the "rule of law".

It is true that adding a name to the list could be POV, but the deletion of this article requested by 172, is predicated on the premise that "dictator" is undefinable. It is definable and is not even remotely controversial amongst historians or lexicographers - even David Irving.

Adding names can be POV, but this logic would have every article in wiki deleted since POV may always be added. Deleting the entire article would imply that no-one can be described as a dictator objectively. This conclusion is against the English language as we know it; all historical commentary therefore WP:NOR; NPOV (since this is contradicted by consensuses reached in other articles e.g. Dictator, Dictatorship.

I am all in favour of vigorous discussion about who should be on the list, and would be happy even if there were only a few names on it. All I a am passionate about here the argument that this is a subjective matter. You can see this on the deletion page with Zoe, who argued that since "dicattor" is subjective saying Hitler was one is POV - and she is right if "dictator" really is subjective it is POV. Do you see what I'm getting at old chap?

Yours, jucifer 17:16, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Alright you guys have convinced me. I'll change my vote, but with a warning that you'll be spending the rest of your days reverting vandalism on the "List of Dictators" article :-). JHMM13 17:19, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Your intelectual honestly is sooo refreshing/unique. At least I will something to do at work :-) eh? jucifer 18:13, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunantly, I am the only one really pressing it on the page, and I am going on vacation for the next few days. I aslo lack the inclination to sapm dozens of people (over 30) sucking up them them and then asking them to vote for me. He will simply spam and spam until he gets a majority so are likely to be right. The deletion will be based on User:172 willful deception about the meaning of WP:NOR. The deletion is motivated by 172 long history of being a shill for dictators. He is well aware that WP:NOR does not mean what he claims. He wants this list deleted bacause he has no interest in having to argue each case - something he would find tedious. As a result wikipedia loses info and an artilce and a good resorse is lost.

This will be a grotesque precedent for wikipedia. Is there any way of having some official position on 172 new NOR policy be expressed. This interpretation could spread.

Thankyou again,

Juicifer

Meesing

Seems that Meesing is a valid edit. See http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=Meesing+lenape&btnG=Search User:Zoe|^(talk) 04:05, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Whoops!

Heh, yeah, was intending to leave the {{anon}} note for the page author, but clicked on your not-logged-in IP's talk link by mistake. --Alan Au 05:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Not a problem. Good hunting. JHMM13 05:30, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Ştefan Octavian Iosif

As you can see, all the romanian personalities who have their names written with diacritics have their correct names in the article's name. Usually it exists a page with the same name but without the character Ş (which by the way, you could add it because you have a list of characters right under the edit box in Wiki) which is a redirect to the content page. --Orioane 06:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I've just created it. Here you go Stefan Octavian Iosif. I'll try to explain myself better. you can check out the page about the Romanian language. There yo'll see taht ther are some characters particular for us like â ă î ş ţ (Â Ă Î Ş Ţ). Usualy, we use english keyboards as well because the romanian ones are not that popular, and it is sometimes accepted (but not advised) that one could replace the diacritic with the simple letter (a i s t). The policy here at wikipedia concerning the romanian personalities is to be correct and create the article about him (her) with the name written with the correct ortography (with diactritics). The same thing hapes with other personalities, not only Romanians so that for the french names the accents or the letter ç are kept, etc. Because it is obvious that not everybody knows how to make the special characters usualy there exists a redirect page having the name without the special characters, and in this case i've just made it. --Orioane 07:08, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Thx for your appreciation and hope to "meet" again. --Orioane 07:50, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Reverts

wow, you sure do a lot of reverts. I just noted your edit history. Special:Contributions/JHMM13. Are you a vandal hunter? Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 03:00, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

User_talk:70.153.223.11

Actually that was from when I just started vandal fighting. If you look at my edit history, I don't do that anymore. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 06:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

K, thanks for the reply! JHMM13 (T | C) 06:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Bill Shillito

FYI author has taken your advice and nominated his article for AFD. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bill_Shillito  J\/\/estbrook       07:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

frankly I would have liked to keep it speedied, oh well  J\/\/estbrook       07:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Polyphasic sleep

Hello. About polyphasic sleep. It is better to have some data that entirely unverified data on who slept polyphasically. If you do not want unverified stuff, delete this whole article althoughter. it is packed with myth. I just wanted to put some meat on those bones. Cheers. ^{(Previous unsigned comment by 194.24.244.5)}

Although I can't agree with your point that more unverified material won't hurt the already OR-packed article, I think I'm just going to solve this for now with an {{originalresearch}} tag. I don't know anything about the subject, so if you could verify some of those claims, it would be useful, thank you. JHMM13 (T | C) 20:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Culture of Asia

Please reconsider your support of the expansion of the culture of Asia article and consider nominating it for deletion. There is nothing unifying about cultures as diverse as Israel, Lebanon, Pakistan, former Soviet Republics, China, Vietnam, Taiwan, Indonesia, Nepal, Japan... many of these countries have very very little movement or information flow between them... the very idea of "Asia" doesn't even make sense geographically. It's something of a "not Europe, but on the same landmass as Europe..." ^{(Previous unsigned comment by 61.59.83.208)}

Ah, yes. And don't you think it's worth saying that in the article to the unwitting English-speaker? I retain my support. In fact, you've done nothing but bolster my position. JHMM13 (T | C) 04:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

W.marsh's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was (30/2/0). Thanks again! The mass blockings begin in 5 minutes. Just kidding! --W.marsh 03:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Haha, I'll keep an eye out for you! JHMM13 (T | C) 03:51, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

COTW Project

You voted for Lee Smith (baseball), this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by King of Hearts (talk • contribs)

Kiwifaramir

It certainly wasn't my intention to "bite" anybody. Thanks for the tip, anyway. :) Brendan 23:01, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Howcheng's RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent request for adminship. I was successfully promoted with a final tally of 74/0/0. I will endeavour not to let you down. Thanks again. howcheng {chat} 07:23, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

No problem, just doing my job :) FireFox 21:18, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Response

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ty for the ett. tip! Notsleeping 08:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

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No problem, JHMM13 (T | C) 08:43, 30 December 2005 (UTC)