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Is it really that bad being my sock puppet? :D bcatt 08:26, 13 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Silence! I didn't create the two of you as my sock puppets just to have you chatter at each other all day. Now go back to work, inserting POV and tripling my voting power! Alienus 08:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well, let's just say it's a peculiar compliment to imply that the only way your mouth can move is if you have someone's hand up your butt.... regardless of who's the notional puppeteer. - It's Mormonlicious 09:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Okay, granted...hands up the butt is not my idea of a good time either...but Alienus is a good and gentle master...I will get back to work now. Nyeh! bcatt 17:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Gentle is good. Perhaps I should apply for the position of "sock marionette"... - It's Mormonlicious 16:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hey! Now that's a great idea! bcatt 19:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Joseph Smith, Jr. revisions

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From my talk page: Since you're the last one to perform a revert "pending discussion" on Joseph Smith, Jr. - and haven't actually discussed the substance of the changes, why not start that discussion there? - It's Mormonlicious 18:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC) ... I'm not sure what you mean. The discussion is already ongoing, under the heading Issue with Mormonlicious edits, and you've participated in it. Tijuana Brass 20:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I guess I meant that you (almost) said you agreed with my changes, and yet reverted them without discussion - or rather the only discussion on your part being a demand that I receive approval prior to editing the wikipedia article, which isn't the way things work. If you're going to involve yourself in a revert war, you owe editors the courtesy of actually discussing your reason for preferring the version you're reverting to. - It's Mormonlicious 20:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
And I've given you that courtesy. From the talk page: ...the reverts on your work aren't being done out of spite or an unwillingness to be open to discussion. Work things out here so everyone can reach an agreed-upon consensus. Then put in the changes. That'll save a lot of reverts on everyone's part. I reverted because you were making a contested change without waiting for consensus. Even if I were to completely agree with you and wanted to change the wording of the article in the exact same manner that you have, I still would have reverted — because the discussion on the change hasn't been finished.
Look. While your account is new, you obviously know how Wikipedia works; your comprehension of things like WP standards of format and editing without any visible learning curve (through the User Contribution records) make that clear. So you probably already know that there's no need to be impatient and push things through the way you want without talking it over. If your revision — in this article or any other — is the better version, it's eventually going to be clear to a greater number of editors, and it'll stay. If not, big deal, there's plenty of other things on here that need work. But however new you are or aren't, you may already be stepping on the toes of some of the other editors that have been involved in the LDS Wikiproject here for a while, and that's not the best way to start off — myself, I'd rather work alongside other editors than against them, even if my personal POV is different (case in point, I'm an ex-Mormon). Maybe an editor mistook you for a sock because you started off a little aggressive... who cares. When people start taking stuff personally on WP, the articles suffer.
I, for one, am glad to have another editor with a fresh perspective on the LDS articles. So, even if you've been on WP for a long time, welcome. Glad to have you here. Ask me if you need anything. Tijuana Brass 00:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)Reply


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