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edit- Very well, I've corrected that, leaving just a mention to the website and a note that it is user-run Hypercolius (talk) 06:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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PK650 (talk) 11:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)your reinsertion at rogue wave
editHi! I removed that because it's a self-published primary source, which, as you can see in those links, aren't really supposed to be used on wikipedia. If you think this was in error, feel free to let me know, but don't reinsert them without explaining your reasoning, otherwise I won't know why you think it's in line with policy and will end up removing it again. Can't read your mind and all that. --Licks-rocks (talk) 20:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is not a 'self-published primary source'. It is a scientific paper with 41 citations on shipstructure.org, and 16 citations on ResearchGate. Please do not remove this, as I feel like you will be attempting to suppress information in that case and act accordingly.
- Accurate information on some rogue wave records is extraordinarily difficult to come by, and some scientific papers have made a massive mistake by christening, for example, the Ucluelet wave as the most extreme rogue wave on record. As I detail on the page, this claim is of the utmost falsehood, but those links to it are still there and nobody challenged them in any way. Hypercolius (talk) 18:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you have an issue with the content of that paper, challenge it directly and present your own evidence disproving it, but do not go around claiming it is a 'self-published primary source' like a blog Hypercolius (talk) 18:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. I just noticed that you left another comment: 'this entire segment might need to be refactored/cut but for now, we're starting small: no peer revieuw, primary source'
- Please stop lying and spreading false information. The tabloids and people responsible for these claims must be called out for falsely claiming the Ucluelet wave is the 'most extreme ever recorded'.
- Unless you have evidence disproving the following papers:
- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/292873547_A_freak_wave_in_the_Black_Sea_Observations_and_simulation (peer reviewed, 51 citations- two of the authors are foremost experts in this field, Oceanography)
- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234151195_Oceanic_Rogue_Waves (838 citations, Annual Review of Fluid Mechanics. Google Scholar gives 1120 citations)
- https://nhess.copernicus.org/articles/11/2913/2011/
- You have no tangible argument against them.
- So, to conclude:
- 'no peer review'- False.
- 'primary source' - So citing a pee-reviewed, cited, high-impact paper is somehow bad now? Hypercolius (talk) 18:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- RE: the primary source stuff: Okay, so, it is both of those things. The thing that would make it not self-published is being published in a source that performs either peer revieuw (for scientific papers) or has editorial oversight prior to publication (for regular press publications and the like). This document is formatted as a scientific paper, so you would expect it to have to undergo peer revieuw. However, the websites you mention don't do that. Researchgate is a website where scientists can upload any document they want to to show off their work, but it does not do peer revieuw, and often, the stuff you find on there hasn't been published elsewhere. In other words, it's self-published!
- The Shipstructure. org version was published as part of a symposium - I'm gonna assume because he presented it there. Again, this qualifies as self-published. Nobody actually went over it to correct any mistakes, it's published as-is.
- RE: your latest comment. I'm not engaging with that. You're getting outraged because you're assuming I believe something that in reality I have absolutely no opinion on. I'm going by source quality, and the source quality there was bad, so I left a comment to draw attention to it and to announce that I wasn't done checking that section yet. Again: I don't care about this ucelet wave thing, I care about writing a good encyclopedia, and that means making sure sources are up to our standards of quality. I'm going to steelman your argument here a bit though: the fact that it was published as part of a symposium might mean it qualifies as WP:EXPERTSPS, in which case it can be used. Do you have some more information about this guy? --Licks-rocks (talk) 18:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)