Hex90
Chopin etudes edit
Hi there,
Welcome to Wikipedia and happy editing! As you might notice the article on Chopin etudes was set up to redirect to the article on Chopin. It would be great to have a full article on the etudes, so if you can write one that's great. However, if the article stays as just a sentence or two it'll probably be turned back into a redirect. Yours, The Land 18:22, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello and to repeat, welcome to Wikipedia. I've noticed that the article Chopin etudes copies directly from your page at http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/3495/etudes.html. This would constitute original research. Please see Wikipedia's policies on original research, verifiability, and citing sources. A couple of administrators have already suggested that the article be redirected to the Frédéric Chopin. You may find it easier to include information about Chopin's edudes in that article instead of starting a new one. Many seasoned editors watch that article and can provide you assistance as a new editor. For additional editing assistance, I've included some helpful links below. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 16:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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Chopin again edit
Hi there,
The article is now at Études (Chopin), where someone else has made another start on it. As Malber says, please don't copy-and-paste from your website. While things like technical details, Opus numbers, and a summary of the etudes' importance or impact are very welcome, it's less appropriate to give a subjective description of the music: Wikipedia can't say 'this etude is a sublime piece of excellence'. If an independent commentator has passed comment, then that can be referenced, e.g. 'George W Bush has called this edutde "a sublime piece of excellence" '. Please remember this is a general-purpose encyclopedia not a programme note!
To give you an example, your suggested summary for Op. 10 No. 7 mixes fact with opinion:
- No. 7 is a toccata, or "touch piece," based on the technical problem of alternating right-hand thirds and sixths, the lower note of which requires changing fingers, while the left hand occupies itself with an underlying accompaniment as melodic as it is witty and charming. Again, Chopin proves himself a magician, as he directs our attention away from the technique and toward the music. No wonder that Huneker asked, "were ever Beauty and Duty so mated in double harness?"
I would rewrite this as
- No. 7 is a toccata, based on the technical problem of alternating right-hand thirds and sixths, the lower note of which requires changing fingers, while the left hand occupies itself with an underlying accompaniment.
Hope this is useful and hope you keep improving the article! Regards, The Land 11:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- The quote from Huneker would be appropriate if a citation for it were given. But the phrasing would be something like this: "James Huneker once commented on this piece, 'were ever Beauty and Duty so mated in double harness?'" A footnote and reference to which publication he wrote this in should be included in references (it is in the main Chopin article). Peacock phrases like "Chopin proves himself a magician" should be avoided altogether. Just keep in mind that Wikipedia is a colaborative research project, not a forum or a place to list your opinions. Hope this helps as well. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 13:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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