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Precious again

Banksia
Thank you for quality contibutions to articles for Project Banksia such as Banksia ilicifolia - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (9 January 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 297th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:32, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Nice, today's Banksia verticillata, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Four years ago, you were recipient no. 297 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Banksia serrata

Hello Hesperian,

I have made some edits to Banksia serrata and asked Cas Liber to check out my edits. However, I know he's busy so here's my request: Please have a look at the changes I have made. I am fairly new to the Wikipedia enterprise (although I know a bit about botany) and would appreciate your advice. (I will add some stuff on fire recovery for this species soon.) Thank you.

Gderrin (talk) 01:20, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Gderrin, welcome to Wikipedia. Your edits to B. serrata look excellent to me; thanks for contributing. In case you haven't found it yet, the botanists here hang out at WT:PLANTS. Hesperian 00:04, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Category:Australian peers

I've changed description of Category:Australian peers (which you created) to reflect its actual usage and its status as a sub cat of Category:Australian recipients of British titles. Barely any of the titles in the category had an Australian Territorial designation. If you disagree (and want to pretty much empty out the category), feel free. Cheers, Bazj (talk) 13:29, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Editing the Pool A Table

Quick question. I was trying to edit the Pool A table of the WC 2015 article to reflect that Australia has qualified. I see it is done now. For future reference, how should one go about doing this? I couldn't edit it from either of the two pages where the table is displayed.Sujith (talk) 12:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sujith, the table is transcluded from a template. Edit the page, and where the table should be you will find the name of the template:

{{2015 Cricket World Cup Pool A}}

Now that you know the name of the template, you could manually go to Template:2015 Cricket World Cup Pool A, and edit that.

Or, you could look just below the edit box, and just below the "Save page" button, and you'll see something that says something like "Templates used in this section". If you click on that it will open up and give you links to all the template. Click on Template:2015 Cricket World Cup Pool A, and you're there.

Cheers,

Hesperian 12:55, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

File:Leucippus fallax edit.jpg

Hi Hesperian, why is this file being called an exact or scaled down duplicate? It's clearly not – it's an edit of the original file, meaning that something has changed. It was also the one promoted as an FP, so deleting it is kind of a big deal. I'd really appreciate this being reversed. Julia\^talk 23:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I've just realised that the creator of the image uploaded my edit to the original image's page without giving credit. So yes, it's a duplicate. Sorry. Julia\^talk 00:07, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

If you want both versions to be there, I am happy to restore the deleted file and revert the other one for you. Hesperian 00:51, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Umm, no, I think it's okay. The edited version is preserved so that's what I care about. Thanks anyway. :) Julia\^talk 01:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Roger that. Rock on. Hesperian 01:57, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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hey, I saw that!

good to see youre still around in at least a sense of the 'send her down' aspect of things... trust all is well, there is the long promised lunch meetup sometime... User:JarrahTree 00:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

G'day mate. Hesperian 01:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Reality check

Hey! Nice to see you're still around. I thought I'd take the opportunity to also ask you for a reality check regarding the WGSRPD and flora categories. I've been pretty aggressive in trying to arrange the category hierarchy into the non-overlapping WGSRPD hierarchy, but recent discussions over the last few years at CfD have seen country categories, mostly in Europe and mostly fauna, upmerged to regional or continent categories based on arguments regarding WP:NONDEF. You introduced me to WGSRPD and set up the Australia categories that way, so I would value your insight. Feel free to hit me with a clue by four or WP:TROUT if I should just give it up.

Anyway, hope all is well! Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 15:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

G'day mate. Yes, I'm still here. In fact still check in every day. But my contributions are going to Wikisource instead. I have nothing helpful to add, sorry. I think you're doing the right thing. I agree 100% with you. I think the people arguing WP:NONDEF are wrong-headed. I think WGSRPD is the perfect solution to our geographic categorisation issues. I think that WP:NONDEF is irrelevent, and that it is a coatrack for the real concern, which is overcategorisation. I've made that argument many times, and it gets no traction. Seeing all these upmerges is just depressing. Hesperian 04:07, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. In fact, you were helpful. Sometimes with the flood of recent CfD discussions it's easy to begin questioning my own opinions. (NB: all linked fauna discussions are still open and I haven't bothered to participate.) The same small group of editors !votes on all of these discussions every time, probably 4 or 5 at most. I'll be more concerned when they set their sights on flora categories again. I'm not unsympathetic to the NONDEF arguments entirely, as with this category on flora and fauna on Indian postage stamps that I nominated for deletion as it's not a defining attribute of the plant or animal. But that's quite different from the position of those editors that a species' distribution isn't defining. Anyway, thanks again for fielding the question and the thoughtful reply. Hope the work on Wikisource is less depressing and more peaceful! Rkitko ^(talk) 19:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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same

same, must be mightily xxxxxxxxxxxxx looking at this shit everyday, same, same.... oh well trust all is well in your world, long time since i left my mark on this talk page, felt it needed something before the year is out... aka satusuro JarrahTree 00:28, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Howdy. Hesperian

Billy Rancher

I see that way back there you deleted an article on Billy Rancher as non-notable. That article certainly did nothing to establish his notability, but he was a major figure in the Seattle/Portland music scene of the early 1980s, who died of cancer in his late 20s. Major enough that there is a full-length biography of him (Rocky Road by Bill Reader) and at least one TV documentary, plus I'm sure a ton of press coverage that could be found (though all from before the Web era, so probably not on line). I'd like to revive the article, but just thought I'd check in first to make sure the deletion was because the article didn't establish notability, rather than because you were familiar with him and nonetheless felt he didn't rise to the level of notability. - Jmabel | Talk 00:40, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Undeleted. Go for it! Hesperian 00:58, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Ha! It wasn't even about the same Billy Rancher. Probably the one it was about wasn't notable. - Jmabel | Talk 05:43, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Heh. Deleted again then. If the subject is different then better to start with a clean slate. Hesperian 05:47, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Wanna see something funny?

check it out....(chuckle) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:59, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

That's fantastic! Hesperian 00:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

couldnt have happened to a better contributor/person...  !! JarrahTree 01:02, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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you vote you get canvassed, hahaha. have a good christmas new year cheers JarrahTree 23:40, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

G'day mate, thanks, you too. Hesperian 01:36, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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due to an app I have

7,014 Revisions (+9 minutes), 858 Authors, 170 Page watchers, – Pageviews (30 days), Created by: Hesperian (134,998) ·

your wp en edit count looms on the top of my user talk page - clearly your priorities in life are well away from wp en edit counting :) I cannot believe your restraint... only 2 edits from a big 000 ! HNY, etc JarrahTree 01:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Heh. Well here's one of them! Hesperian 01:12, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Ha. Every time I edit pages you have created (quite a lot) it stares out at me 134,999 - JarrahTree 23:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Not any more. ;-) (I have 144k on Wikisource so not likely to make a fuss about a mere 135k here am I.... Hesperian 23:58, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Impressive, to say the least - this nightmare jungle here sure is showing the very definite lack of editors of yours and moondynes quality - a sad loss JarrahTree 00:04, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

there is something about send her down hughie - good to see your moniker on the watch list - JarrahTree 03:12, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

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