User talk:HandThatFeeds/Archive 2024

Morgellons

dont remember how I got here but I'm looking for someone to compare morgellons information with. I feel like I'm going crazy sometimes other times I feel like I perfor.ed health miracles by taking sulfur as a supplement. I feel gross I know I'm contagious and I know all of this is very wrong. I fear of my future when thought on topics of disease progression with something that behaves the way that this stuff does. It's aggressive and predatory. it spreads throughout my entire body causing numbness in my toes and breathing problems when exerting myself. I really need someone who knows what I'm talking about without thinking I'm experiencing a mental collapse. I fear my governments involvement here for my own reasons as I think everyone familiar with this pain does. If u have any knowledge I could gain from I could really use an experienced opinion or comparable symptoms etc. Ps. Trent reznor is god.. Generation X rules nothing more nothing less.. Sincerely, Kymberly Kyms2evil4u (talk) 12:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

@Kyms2evil4u: You need to speak with medical and mental health professionals. This is not something people on Wikipedia can help you with. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 10:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the ping...

I didn't see your last comment otherwise I wouldn't have pinged you for further comment. Sorry about that. Nemov (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Here, take this for being overall awesome at ANI! - The Master of Hedgehogs (always up for a conversation!) 17:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 17:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

You are most certainly welcome! - The Master of Hedgehogs ^{(always up for a conversation!)} 20:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

How is "I did everything right" a WP:NOTTHEM?

In case when a TBANned user believes that the reason given for their TBAN is incorrect or not applicable to their conduct, would you expect their appeal to look any different from "I did everything right" detailing the specific circumstances? In particular, would you expect such an appeal to include "an explanation that they understand what they did wrong" even though they believe that they didn't? Crash48 (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

I have no interest in continuing this on my Talk page. Keep your appeal on AN. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 16:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Mistake

Hi, I think my last edit may have accidentally eaten your comment at WP:ANI somehow. It won't let me revert it there, so I apologize but it may need to be re-added. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Must've been an edit conflict & you hit the button to overwrite my version with yours. It happens, now you know what it does! Next time, better to copy your comment to Notepad or something, go back and refresh the page, then add your comment to the discussion. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 19:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

ANI music

[1] I think "Loudly Wrong" would be a good name for a Quiet Riot/Right Said Fred mash-up cover-band. DMacks (talk) 17:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Ha! Love it. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 17:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Comment

Accusing people of wanting "a pound of flesh" or desiring to hit someone with a "rolled up newspaper" are personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith. I think that's inarguable. These aren't rhetorical flourishes; they have meaning.

The space between voluntarily doing something and someone filing a complaint are important to maintaining a collegial environment. I don't want to file a complaint. That's escalation and it shouldn't be necessary. I'm asking you to consider striking your comments because they went too far and characterized the motives of other users. Thank you for your consideration, Mackensen (talk) 20:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I disagree that they are personal attacks. Again, file a complaint if you feel that strongly. I am done with the matter and do not appreciate you continuing after I had already disengaged. The fact you felt it necessary to come here and chastise me after I said I was disingaging only cements my view that the motivations for admonishment at ANI were unnecessary and vindictive. Please do not continue this pointless debate. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 21:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

BLP on talk pages

Since as I said, I already posted enough on the article talk page I won't post there again on the issue. but I just remembered a case where an editor deciding they're free to label living persons on talk pages without consequence lead to a block Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive961#Would an admin please close this thread? [2].

Note in that case, the people labelled were extremely notable, and the details of what they did which lead some people to label them that way, very well known with a reasonable amount of it undisputed even at that time.

In this case, we're referring to 3 minors effectively being called murderers in a case where we still don't even know what caused the death. (And as horrible as the actual crimes a sexual predator might be guilty of like rape, sexual assault and harassment are, as reflected in various things like the sentences, for good reason murder is treated as a far more serious crime than any of those things in most jurisdictions.) In other words, IMO anyway, what was done here is far more serious a violation than there. The only saving grace is the editor seems to have partly acknowledged they need to cut it out, unlike there where the editor seem to take a long time to understand that.

Also in case you're not aware, we've had a lot of discussions about this before and there's a clear consensus that it's silly to suggest calling something a murder when the people who's actions lead to the death are undisputed is somehow different from directly labeling said people as murderers. (It's more complicated when it could arguably be a case of mistaken identity.)

It's the same thing, and indeed saying either of those people in the aforementioned incident raped, sexually assaulted or harassed whoever would clearly have been no more acceptable then. (Although for one of them the situation is a lot more complicated now.....)

Perhaps more importantly, it's difficult to read the editor's comments and their followups as anything but a clear accusation that those 3 minor are murderers.

Nil Einne (talk) 03:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

P.S. I'd also acknowledge in the earlier case I mentioned AFAIR, the editor mostly just repeatedly saying that to make a point, unlike here where it was on the relevant talk page and in relation to an issue being discussed which also makes that case worse. However, this is only of limited excuse since as I already pointed out there there was actually still no reason to make the statement, and instead it confused the point the editor was trying to make, plus lead to that unnecessary digression. Nil Einne (talk) 03:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

I had already accepted your argument on the Talk page. I don't think the situations are quite the same, but I see your point, and agree we need to stay away from calling them murderers unless convicted of such a crime. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 14:28, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Gamergate 2

I noticed this on the gamergate talk page, but I cannot comment there, so I figured I should warn you here. There definitely is an ongoing harassment campaign that has been widely described as "Gamergate 2", is being headed by many of the people who were involved in the original, targeting employees of the consultancy firm Sweet Baby Inc, including Felix Kramer, an associate of Zoe Quinn, who was among the targets of the original harassment campaign 10 years ago. That nonsense post that you responded to and correctly dismissed, is actually the narrative they're using to justify their behavior. Victims of the harassment have indeed privated their social media accounts.

They have compiled lists of games that Sweet Baby was involved in, and are going after other firms as well. Mark Kern is one of the public figures encouraging this entire operation. Brianna Wu has also done a complete 180 and is now openly associating with the Gamergate crowd. I expect multiple reliable sources to report on the issue, as journalists are already discussing the event on social media. 46.97.170.155 (talk) 10:01, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Elijah McClain

The claim that Elijah McClain was vegetarian is made inside the Wikipedia article. It is not a scientific argument about the otimality of any diet. The claim could be erroneous, but it was sourced. MaynardClark (talk) 14:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

You seem to be on a push to include Wikipedia:WikiProject Veganism and Vegetarianism into a large swath of articles. McClain's only source of vegetarianism is a trivial mention in a single cite, it is not central to the article in question. I can't see how the article about his death is relevant to the Wikiproject, or why it should be added to the Talk page. My phrasing was unclear, and I apologize for that, but I don't see how this is relevant. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 15:08, 15 March 2024 (UTC)