Greglawl
Armenia/Azerbaijan discretionary sanctions edit
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Sockpuppet investigation edit
An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Greglawl, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.
Blocked as a sockpuppet edit
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. qedk (t 愛 c) 08:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Greglawl (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
This is a false accusation of sockpuppetry. I have two other family members that use and edit on Wikipedia as well, and for completely different purposes, which explains why they might have similar IP addresses, but I assure you that I am not using three separate accounts and committing sockpuppetry.Greglawl (talk) 03:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Please see meatpuppetry; as we have no way of knowing who is sitting at the computer operating a particular account, we must treat accounts acting in the same manner as if they are operated by the same person. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:29, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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Please note that unblock requests should be placed outside the block notice; you may do this by highlighting and copying the template when viewing this page, then open the edit window and paste it at the bottom of the large edit window, then filling in the information. 331dot (talk) 08:27, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Greglawl (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Once again, it is not the same computer. It is three different computers used by three different people in the same house. My account is being unfairly blocked, and this is a problem since I edit and contribute on Wikipedia a lot. Greglawl (talk) 19:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Technical evidence + behavioural evidence, and essentially an admission of WP:MEAT. I'm declining the unblock, as the block is appropriate. Yamla (talk) 19:42, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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It doesn't have to be the same device if you are all using the same internet connection. 331dot (talk) 19:36, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Greglawl (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Ah, I see. I apologize, but I did not realize that different people can't use the same Internet connection while doing this. Also, it's not meatpuppetry as the different accounts were created for different purposes (and not to my knowledge). Is it OK that I am unblocked and knowing that this is a problem, I don't do this again? Me and my other family members did not intentionally do this, so it's unfair to be blocked when this was not done out of maliciousness. Greglawl (talk) 19:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
"I did not realize that different people can't use the same Internet connection while doing this." Not the issue; that happens all the time. What is the issue is that all these other accounts share this same fixation on this one article, and a particular issue related to it. And it seems that there's been a lot of other accounts with the exact same interest, going back quite a while. — Daniel Case (talk) 07:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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Greglawl (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I just checked the article and only 2 of them were on it, and it was unintentional. All my family members share the same ethnicity and there is a conflict happening which surrounds a conflict based on our common ethnicity, meaning that we're probably gonna share a similar fixation on this topic. We did not do this intentionally, once again. My account also had dozens of edits on different topics before this one, so even if this was the case, only the elgreco account should get banned. Also, even if it were the case (which it's not), it makes no sense for me to get banned immediately without discussion about what happened. I feel that this was extremely mishandled and Wikipedia should take better care with situations like these, instead of needlessly making false accusations and blocking entire accounts with hundreds of edits. Greglawl (talk) 00:46, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
All we know is that it was a technical match and they were making disruptive edits in the same area. For the purposes of WP:MEAT, our policy dictates that we treat all of them as the same editor (since we cannot investigate the truth of your claims). Your best shot is: a) declare all the accounts editing on the same IP (with a clearly defined relationship) and b) appeal this block to the ArbCom. I (and other administrators without CheckUser) don't have the technical ability to investigate the validity of your claims and as your unblock has been summarily declined thrice (as of now), it makes more sense to have a thorough fact-finding before any unblocks can be made. --qedk (t 愛 c) 11:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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