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Your GA nomination of Jonathan Pettibone

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Your GA nomination of Jonathan Pettibone

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Cassie McFarland

Dear Go Phightins!: While checking out this old draft: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Cassie McFarland, I noticed that the mainspace article had been deleted after an AfD, and then restored and userfied to you. However, then mainspace article has been recreated. Since you have been involved with this, would you mind checking it out to see if it's appropriate? Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:26, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

When time allows

Hey Go P. Can you take a look at the Javier Baez article and the talkpage. With your experience at baseball articles maybe you can provide some needed advice. Thanks. ```Buster Seven Talk 06:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Good game

It may be only a preseason game, but that Bears-Eagles game was pretty damn good, even though it was pretty sloppy at the same time. Good luck to your Eagles in the future. Zappa24Mati 03:36, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

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Rubén Amaro, Jr.

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 19:59, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Let's see what happens without it, and then re-evaluate. Thanks! Go Phightins! 20:08, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jonathan Pettibone

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Marty Bystrom

I was working on a game log to be placed in the 1984 Phillies season today and came across the short article for Marty Bystrom. I expanded it some. Take a look. Any pointers are welcome. Bob305 (talk) 21:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey Bob, how's it going? Looks pretty good. Of course, there's always room for more expansion. I found some potential sources for further expansion, if you're up for it. Maybe you could even go for DYK? Let me know if you want help with that; DYK is a little more complex than it used to be. God bless! Go Phightins! 22:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional source material. I'll give it a look. Bob305 (talk) 00:57, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

User:IseeEwe

You unblocked ISeeEwe. If you were serious about keeping them "on an incredibly short leash" as regards following WP:CIVIL, you may be interested in this edit. Bishonen | talk 06:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC).

Saw that edit shortly after he made it and almost re-pulled the trigger. The comment was three days ago, so to re-block now would be at least partially punitive. I think Robert's note cuts it from an administrative standpoint. I will keep an eye on it; he hasn't edited in three days. Thanks as always, Bishonen. Go Phightins! 11:47, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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Unresolved ANI issue

Howdy, so my ANI report about Avenger2015 went unresolved and has since been archived. Do you have any suggestions for how to remedy this? I think this was the last state of the discussion. Much appreciated, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Let me consult a few admins as to an appropriate COA. Thanks. Go Phightins! 22:06, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Much obliged. And here is yet another blank cast list, which, if filled out, would again be redundant with the existing character list in the article. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb - I blocked ... Go Phightins! 17:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, hopefully that will convince them to be a bit more community-minded. It's always frustrating when editors decide to do their own thing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you!

... and you probably need it after undertaking that long and contentious close at AN. Well done! MelanieN (talk) 03:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks MelanieN. Yeah, I think I may go back to blocking obvious vandals for a little while ... big closes are a little stressful. :-) Go Phightins! 11:41, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2014 GoDaddy Bowl

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Lucia Black topic ban clarification

Hi, Go Phightins! I have some concerns regarding the topic ban you enacted on Lucia Black (talk · contribs), as it encompasses all Japanese entertainment. As a clarification, does the ban include all articles related to the WP:ANIME and WP:VG projects (I'm also a participant of these projects as well) or participation in discussions related to the projects? Also, considering the fact that I had no problems with the user in question when collaborating with her on some articles that I did, would it be much easier if I continue the work alone? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:18, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sjones. To answer your question, most of her editing related to video games has been in anime and manga-related capacities, and as such, they are certainly included in the ban. Hypothetically, if she were to edit an article on Grand Theft Auto, for example, that would not necessarily fall within the topic ban. I doubt she plans to edit, so for all intensive purposes the ban includes all video game articles she has shown a propensity to edit. I hope this answers your question. And yes, the ban is for all "pages", which does include discussions. Go Phightins! 00:58, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I completely understand your point now. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:04, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for checking in. Go Phightins! 01:05, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this is literally the worst thing possible for me....i have made small contributions to such articles, but they are literally without my expertice.....and i have lost all motivation. so please....just site ban me now, because i have nothing to offer outside japanese-related articles. my passion was japanese media....and i have absolute no motivation. Lucia Black (talk) 01:42, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Phightins. Rather then dispute the close outright, instead I would like to understand how you arrived at a conclusion for the manga and video game topic ban. I originally proposed this topic ban, but I then retracted this proposal as on some extra thought and from various editors' comments I felt that in fairness to Lucia that a broadening of the topic ban was rather punitive. Regards Blackmane (talk) 18:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Blackmane. My job, when closing a thread, is to evaluate the consensus and implement (assuming it egregiously violates no policies), regardless of whether I agree with it. Ultimately, I formed no opinion on whether this was the right course of action, just that there was a consensus for it. If you read point #3 in my close, you will see my thought process in finding a consensus for a topic ban. Regardless of who initially proposed the idea, I found a consensus for it. If you think I was wrong (which I may be), you are welcome to join the closure review I began. Thanks. Go Phightins! 20:35, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Go Phightins!, I hope you don't mind me continuing to talk about this issue even though it is now closed. One of my main concerns with the close that prompted me to comment in the closure review was that there didn't seem to be any evidence of disruption presented for the specific area covered by the topic ban (excluding Ghost in the Shell articles, from which Lucia Black was already topic banned). I felt that since (in my opinion) the arguments for the topic ban were not backed up by evidence, they hould have been given little weight when closing the discussion. In order for the topic ban to be implemented, I felt there should have been things such as diffs or links to discussions where Lucia Black was disruptive or argumentative in relation to Japanese media other than Ghost in the Shell. Since I didn't see such evidence, I was really surprised by the close. Anyway, I'm not asking for any action from you. The close was just still bothering me, so I wanted to get what I was thinking off my chest by posting it somewhere. I do appreciate that you took the time to close the discussion, and think you clearly put a lot of thought into the close, even if I disagree with the outcome. Calathan (talk) 20:06, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Problem child

Hey, Mr. Phightins. I have a problem child who may need a time out soon: diff. Please review recent edit history. He has been vandalizing Auburn football, Florida football, and SEC Championship Game articles, and has pretty much announced he will be vandalizing the Florida State football article soon. You may want to watch list these if you feel unable to take immediate action. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mr. Lawyer. I am sorry that I missed this. Do you still need help, or is the situation resolved? Go Phightins! 13:08, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem. You can't be everywhere at once, Superman. Another admin named Elockid, who is apparently active at AIV, was all over this. Pleased to see that AIV folks are apparently responding much more quickly than I remember. OTH, SPI desperately needs some new blood, and has a 30-day backlog! Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 13:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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LB Closure

Hi Go Phightins! I'm sure you're tired of reviews of the closure you made over LuciaBlack, so i'll be brief. I just wanted to say, i've been away for a few days, so missed the closure and review, and have just read both with interest. I think that you did a fine job in reading consensus in this sorry situation. Thanks for stepping up to it. Cheers, Lindsay^Hello 03:43, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, LindsayH. Always nice to get feedback, positive or negative, especially positive :-) Go Phightins! 19:07, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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Just a heads up. I have awarded this weeks Eddy. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:22, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Buster7. As I told Isaacl in regards to another WP commitment I forgot, we went away for the weekend, and I completely forgot about this. I should be back next week. Go Phightins! 20:45, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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Proposal regarding a banned user (2)

The (2) is because I made a proposal in Salvidrim!'s talk page, but it looks like the administrator is uncomfortable with the discussion. Go Phightins! did not have the chance to participate, so I bring the matter here. Although Go Phightins!'s input is certainly welcome (whose talk page is this?), it will not be enough, since the administrator already expressed sympathy for the banned user.

As said in the discussion, Ryulong's opinion is important, but this user's talk page is protected. May Ryulong comment about my proposal in this page instead of in Salvidrim!'s. Otherwise, may Go Phightins! transmit this request to Ryulong? 84.127.80.114 (talk) 18:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Stop mentioning me you moron. I'm not getting involved.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Then I guess I have to repeat the question here. May Go Phightins! indicate one user that contributed to the extended ban decision? 84.127.80.114 (talk) 19:09, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Avenger2015 again

Heya GP, the recent block of Avenger2015 did not seem to dissuade his disruptive behavior. In these two edits he adds another redundant cast list. In these two edits he continues adding to a duplicate cast list that he started. I think once a reasonable person learns that their duplicate cast list is unfavorable, he should think to remove them. Or certainly not to add to them. And in the following four edits, he starts to add a cast list, then removes it, then adds it again, then removes it again. Taunting? ([2][3][4][5]). Anyhow, your eyes are requested. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi GP, if you don't have time to look into this, please lemme know so I can send it back to ANI. No pressure intended, just need to get this off my To Follow Up On list. :) The user is still being disruptive. Here they make 34 consecutive edits adding more cast to yet another duplicate section that he added in June. User hasn't gotten the message. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Cyphoidbomb. Saw this and forgot about it. I would send it back to ANI not because I don't have time to deal with it, but I would prefer some community discussion on how best to proceed. You are welcome to diff/quote any of my comments on the situation in your report. Thanks. Go Phightins! 22:54, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the quick reply. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:55, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Good to see you're back to the PSU game ...

I started to edit the James TD and you already had it up ... welcome back. I missed most of the first-half as I was out officiating a high school soccer game. Time to sit back, watch, edit, and enjoy (and then switch over the Phils--exciting win last night). Bob305 (talk) 18:34, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Bob, I missed the first half too with another commitment, but can update for the rest of the way. Thanks. And yeah, how about the power numbers of Ben Revere?!?! Go Phightins! 18:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks good & Thanks for your hard work! Bob305 (talk) 03:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I re-inserted the Big 10 standings template into the page. The sanctions reference has been removed so it is now up-to-date. To be honest, the lifting of sanctions came as a surprise to me. Bob305 (talk) 21:34, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Note to my fellow editors...

I have been rather inactive lately outside of my two pet articles, 2014 Philadelphia Phillies season and 2014 Penn State Nittany Lions football team. True, some of this is due to real life activity, but I felt somewhat obligated to share the other part of it. I am discouraged by the direction this community is going, as I know many editors are. In my free time, I have the choice between a real life activity that brings me joy and fulfillment, or at the very least relaxation, or logging into Wikipedia and seeing crap about the gender gap, WMF vs. us, Admins vs. Content Editors, and other farcical drivel. I have had a propensity to choose the former. I still believe in the mission of Wikipedia, to disseminate free content in an encyclopedia that anyone can edit to represent a sum of the world's knowledge, but I truly wonder whether we still are going in that direction. So I am discouraged. I am not retiring, and I will continue to be around to edit those two articles (in all likelihood), but I am considering handing in my admin bit for now, as I am not sure I want to be involved in any more than those articles. Remind me why it is that we do what we do, why we care, why I wanted to be a part of this in the first place please. Thank you, and may God bless you all. Sincerest regards, Ben -- Go Phightins! 22:01, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I've recently had to revisit the thought that reality TV shows had near-zero value; I just got into Ink Master and learned a little about tattooing from it. Now, I'm getting started improving the black-and-gray article as a result of all that. Don't get me wrong, there are still really stupid things about reality TV (I'm looking at you, celebration of cruel and manipulative behavior) but that it got me looking at and researching a new content area is pretty great. I've also been really into edit-a-thons and GLAM work recently; they usually don't produce new and long-term editors, but people's attitudes towards Wikipedia and its community usually becomes more positive, and we do get some decent content out of it sometimes, and I like those parts. Working with a small team of folks to build the Co-op for the sake of providing an accessible mentorship space has been pretty gratifying as well. I'm glad you're not retiring, Go Phightins. I get discouraged by these things too, but I try to remind myself that the stuff on ANI and Arbcom does not represent the direction we are going— these venues have been that way for a long time. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 22:30, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I suggest taking a break from admin work and reading the administrator noticeboards, and maybe look at another area where you can be of service to the community: perhaps work on categorizing baseball-related articles, pitch in at new page patrol, or help at the Teahouse. Or just concentrate on content creation: look to update more Phillie player articles, or other interesting baseball articles. I understand your feelings, though, so if you want to just relax for a bit, that's good too. Hope to see you editing regularly again! isaacl (talk) 22:49, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

What IsaacI said. Please do whatever you have to do, because we don't want to lose you! The main thing to know is: it IS possible to edit Wikipedia without getting exposed to all the hassling and backbiting and crap. Just stay away from the drama areas. Avoid ANI, avoid Jimbo's talk page, avoid the endlessly argumentative talk pages. Take them off your watchlist and let them fume along without you. Just create and improve articles and do mop jobs. And don't make it an either-or choice of editing Wikipedia vs. doing what you enjoy offline. Do both, as time allows and your interests dictate. You can do less Wikipedia stuff and more offline stuff, without giving up on Wikipedia entirely. Above all, stay away from the areas that are poisoning the Wikipedia experience for you. There's no rule that you have to follow all that stuff just because you are an admin now. Many admins never go near the battles, and they do important and satisfying work here. --MelanieN (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I find that patrolling the drama boards is probably a lot like being a beat cop patrolling a crime-ridden neighbourhood. The more time you spend there, the less faith you tend to have in humanity. But the key thing I always try to remember is that for every one person who lives in those high-drama areas, there are 99 quietly and happily editing away in full view of Wikipedia's mission. Having the admin bit does not mean you can't simply remain one of those 99. I think you and I are fairly similar in that we're both content admins. I view the tools as exactly what they are - tools. Useful to have when a vandal needs blocking or a page needs protecting. They don't carry any responsibility to become involved in the day to day bickering that many (myself included, on occasion) enjoy. So my advice is simple: Pick the articles you want to write about and forget the rest. If that is just two articles, so be it. If the admin tools lay dormant for the most part, that's fine. If you feel you absolutely don't need them and choose to give them up, that's fine too. The bickering has always been there, but it can stay in the background for most. Resolute 14:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

• The best thing you can do to re-awaken your wiki-spirit is to remove all the noticeboards & Jimbo's page and other locations of "farcical drivel" from your watchlist. Just don't go there! It's like going to the local saloon at 2AM to measure the well-being of your local Real Life neighborhood. Resolute is correct to say that beat cops get hardened by constantly having to deal with the crap. The baseball season is wrapping up soon. Lots of team articles will need a seasoned veteran to "put a bow" on what happened this year. I know that the Chicago Cubs article makes no mention of the 2014 season. I'm sure its not the only one. I know when I get down, I like to go back in time and revisit some of the stuff I did @ Wikipedia back when I was a newbie. Anyway...Its been a real pleasure working with you at EotW and I sincerely hope you will continue. Maybe you just forgot that this is supposed to be fun. Enjoy your time-off. ```Buster Seven Talk 15:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

FWIW:Check out User Talk:Isaacl#Editor retention- New page. Maybe you and I could clean up the WER Project Page. Buster Seven Talk

• I was worried this might happen to you as it has happened to several other editors who became admins, got frustrated and then quit... That's why I have resisted all efforts to get involved in that stuff... You should concentrate on writing and improving articles as you are very good at that stuff and try not to get too involved in all the political stuff.. We'd hate to lose you. Spanneraol (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
• When I need a recharge, I retreat into working on a quirky baseball biography or two. I know I won't win Million Awards for guys like Danny Shay or Rusty Kuntz, but they were fun to write about. The quirkier, the better. (You run into less craziness and drama on articles if no one knows they exist.) EricEnfermero ^HOWDY! 13:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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