Gilaska Ace

"Gilas Pilipinas Men's" and "Gilas Pilipinas program" articles

Yes, the articles "Gilas Pilipinas Men's" and "Philippine men's national basketball team" should be treated as two separate articles.

The "Philippine men's national basketball team" covers the entire history of the Philippine men's national team since the 1910's. While Gilas Pilipinas Men's (originally known as Smart Gilas) is the current program in place since 2010. This development could still change in the future, in the event Gilas Pilipinas Men's is replaced by a new program, just like with past programs which had its brief tenure as the men's national team (Northern Cement, Team Pilipinas).

As for the article "Gilas Pilipinas program", the article was created to reflect the changes made by the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas in May 2019, when it was announced that the name "Gilas Pilipinas" henceforth encompasses SBP's programs for men's, women's, youth, etc. iamdumdum (talk) 08:36, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

You still don't get it do you? It still doesn't warrant an entire page to itself. "Gilas" IS the national team. In fact it is now nickname of all national teams. Just the because there is a supposed "program" in place doesn't mean you need to create separate page. More so a page where you can't even explain especially with sources what the program is. The only time there was something different was the so called Gilas 1.0 where the all amateur model was used again and the team competed as a club team, developmental team and it competed as the national team. After 2012 that model died and the national team aka Gilas was just any other national team setup. Trying to create a separate page means there is something out of the ordinary. You're also telling the readers it is separate entity/team when it's not. Just because the SBP made changes to the name of "Gilas" again doesn't warrant an entire article. Having a nickname and a sponsor doesn't warrant a separate page. And no you're wrong,"Gilas Pilipinas Men" doesn't represent the national team, beacuse it IS the national team. "Gilias Pilipinas" men is not separate team or entity. That logic that you're trying to put forward is like saying the Azkals currently represent the men's national football team or the Qantas Socceroos currently represent the Australia's men's national football team when that is wrong. Gilaska Ace (talk) 11:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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