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The Signpost: 17 October 2011 edit
- News and notes: Arabic Wikipedia gets video intros, Smithsonian gifts images, and WikiProject Conservatism scrutinized
- In the news: Why Wikipedia survives while others haven't; Wikipedia as an emerging social model; Jimbo speaks out
- WikiProject report: History in your neighborhood: WikiProject NRHP
- Featured content: Brazil's boom-time dreams of naval power: The ed17 explains the background to a new featured topic
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The Signpost: 24 October 2011 edit
- From the editors: A call for contributors
- Opinion essay: There is a deadline
- Interview: Contracting for the Foundation
- WikiProject report: Great WikiProject Logos
- Featured content: The best of the week
- Arbitration report: Abortion; request for amendment on Climate Change case
- Technology report: WMF launches coding challenge, WMDE starts hiring for major new project
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The Signpost: 31 October 2011 edit
- Opinion essay: The monster under the rug
- Recent research: WikiSym; predicting editor survival; drug information found lacking; RfAs and trust; Wikipedia's search engine ranking justified
- News and notes: German Wikipedia continues image filter protest
- Discussion report: Proposal to return this section from hiatus is successful
- WikiProject report: 'In touch' with WikiProject Rugby union
- Featured content: The best of the week
- Arbitration report: Abortion case stalls, request for clarification on Δ, discretionary sanctions streamlined
- Technology report: Wikipedia Zero announced; New Orleans successfully hacked
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The Signpost: 7 November2011 edit
- Special report: A post-mortem on the Indian Education Program pilot
- Discussion report: Special report on the ArbCom Elections steering RfC
- WikiProject report: Booting up with WikiProject Computer Science
- Featured content: Slow week for Featured content
- Arbitration report: Δ saga returns to arbitration, while the Abortion case stalls for another week
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The Signpost: 14 November 2011 edit
- News and notes: ArbCom nominations open, participation grants finalized, survey results on perceptions on Wikipedia released
- WikiProject report: Having a Conference with WikiProject India
- Arbitration report: Abortion and Betacommand 3 in evidence phase, three case requests outstanding
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Revisit the RfC discussion for Notability (astronomical objects)? edit
Hi Gigs, the concerns you voiced in your strong opposition to the above proposal have been addressed in the guideline language. Specifically, the guideline was clarified so that it is clearly subordinate to WP:GNG, and cannot be construed to allow non-notable astronomical objects to pass the SNG and not GNG. We worked very hard on this guideline, and would like all the support we can get. In fact, I think it has the spirit of your own essay, Two prongs of notability. Would you consider revisiting the RfC and the guideline to see if the responses and guideline changes are agreeable to you? If so, please consider changing from oppose to support. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 14:46, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree that it's clearly subordinate to the GNG in its current incarnation. "If an astronomical object meets any of the following criteria", "The object is, or has been, visible to the naked eye." That clause alone bypasses the GNG's requirement of significant coverage. If it were truly subordinate to the GNG, the fact that something is visible to the naked eye would be largely irrelevant to its notability. Gigs (talk) 20:38, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- That first sentence, though, leaves wiggle-room - "probably qualifies for a stand-alone article." I think the first criteria about naked-eye visibility was suggested in the WP:ASTRONOMY discussion because it makes a reasonable first-order sweep for notability. Emphasis can be placed on "probably" in that section, and we can reword the last bit (important note), which I concede is slightly confusing. For example, take out the mention of GNG and just say that astronomical articles are still subject to WP:N. Would that help? Can you suggest some other tweaks or other ways to improve that section? Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 02:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- It won't stop people at AfD from blindly saying "Keep-- meets criteria 1 of the SNG", and you know they will. This isn't so much a problem with your guideline as it is a general problem with the application of SNGs and the unwillingness of closers at AfD to truly evaluate the merits of arguments. Citing a met SNG criteria is an automatically valid !vote lately, and I don't think you are going to be able to draft that out of your guideline. I do feel bad that I have to oppose your SNG for reasons mostly outside of the SNG itself, but until there is a cultural change in the way that all the SNGs are applied, I will continue to oppose new ones. My only suggestion, and it is a radical one, is to depart with the numbered criteria format and offer only general guidance in prose form. Gigs (talk) 04:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- I see your point, and it's a good one. I've watched AfD and have seen that type of behavior often. Some editors will reach for any straw to keep any article, in a kind of zealous inclusionism. If the essay is promoted, I'll monitor related AfDs for it and see how bad it gets; in that case a prose format may be worth having. It's a balancing act. Some reasonable editors just want something they can quickly reference, while others should really be reading the content of the essay before applying. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 13:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- It won't stop people at AfD from blindly saying "Keep-- meets criteria 1 of the SNG", and you know they will. This isn't so much a problem with your guideline as it is a general problem with the application of SNGs and the unwillingness of closers at AfD to truly evaluate the merits of arguments. Citing a met SNG criteria is an automatically valid !vote lately, and I don't think you are going to be able to draft that out of your guideline. I do feel bad that I have to oppose your SNG for reasons mostly outside of the SNG itself, but until there is a cultural change in the way that all the SNGs are applied, I will continue to oppose new ones. My only suggestion, and it is a radical one, is to depart with the numbered criteria format and offer only general guidance in prose form. Gigs (talk) 04:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- That first sentence, though, leaves wiggle-room - "probably qualifies for a stand-alone article." I think the first criteria about naked-eye visibility was suggested in the WP:ASTRONOMY discussion because it makes a reasonable first-order sweep for notability. Emphasis can be placed on "probably" in that section, and we can reword the last bit (important note), which I concede is slightly confusing. For example, take out the mention of GNG and just say that astronomical articles are still subject to WP:N. Would that help? Can you suggest some other tweaks or other ways to improve that section? Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 02:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
The Signpost: 21 November 2011 edit
- Discussion report: Much ado about censorship
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- Featured content: The best of the week
- Arbitration report: End in sight for Abortion case, nominations in 2011 elections
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You may be interested in this. Peter jackson (talk) 11:16, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
The Signpost: 28 November 2011 edit
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- Ben, I did vote in the election several days ago. I don't know why you'd be getting a cross site warning. Gigs (talk) 20:48, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
The Signpost: 05 December 2011 edit
- News and notes: Amsterdam gets the GLAM treatment, fundraising marches on, and a flourish of new admins
- In the news: A Wikistream of real time edits, a call for COI reform, and cracks in the ivory tower of knowledge
- Discussion report: Trial proposed for tool apprenticeship
- WikiProject report: This article is about WikiProject Disambiguation. For other uses...
- Featured content: This week's Signpost is for the birds!
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The Signpost: 12 December 2011 edit
- Opinion essay: Wikipedia in Academe – and vice versa
- News and notes: Research project banner ads run afoul of community
- In the news: Bell Pottinger investigation, Gardner on gender gap, and another plagiarist caught red-handed
- WikiProject report: Spanning Nine Time Zones with WikiProject Russia
- Featured content: Wehwalt gives his fifty cents; spies, ambushes, sieges, and Entombment
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WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons edit
Hello Gigs, I notice you have tagged the Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons as historical (inactive), but there are currently 174 unreferenced BLPs and even if it goes to zero I'm sure new ones will pop up regularly. Shouldn't the project be kept alive? Danmuz (talk) 12:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
The Signpost: 19 December 2011 edit
- News and notes: Anti-piracy act has Wikimedians on the defensive, WMF annual report released, and Indic language dynamics
- In the news: To save the wiki: strike first, then makeover?
- Discussion report: Polls, templates, and other December discussions
- WikiProject report: A dalliance with the dismal scientists of WikiProject Economics
- Featured content: Panoramas with Farwestern and a good week for featured content
- Arbitration report: The community elects eight arbitrators
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The Signpost: 26 December 2011 edit
- Recent research: Psychiatrists: Wikipedia better than Britannica; spell-checking Wikipedia; Wikipedians smart but fun; structured biological data
- News and notes: Fundraiser passes 2010 watermark, brief news
- WikiProject report: The Tree of Life
- Arbitration report: Three open cases, one set for acceptance, arbitrators formally appointed by Jimmy Wales
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The Signpost: 02 January 2012 edit
- Interview: The Gardner interview
- News and notes: Things bubbling along as Wikimedians enjoy their holidays
- WikiProject report: Where are they now? Part III
- Featured content: Ghosts of featured content past, present, and future
- Arbitration report: New case accepted, four open cases, terms begin for new arbitrators
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The Signpost: 09 January 2012 edit
- Technological roadmap: 2011's technological achievements in review, and what 2012 may hold
- News and notes: Fundraiser 2011 ends with a bang
- WikiProject report: From Traditional to Experimental: WikiProject Jazz
- Featured content: Contentious FAC debate: a week in review
- Arbitration report: Four open cases, proposed decision in Betacommand 3
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The Signpost: 16 January 2012 edit
- Special report: English Wikipedia to go dark on January 18
- Sister projects: What are our sisters up to now?
- News and notes: WMF on the looming SOPA blackout, Wikipedia turns 11, and Commons passes 12 million files
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Beer
- Featured content: Lecen on systemic bias in featured content
- Arbitration report: Four open cases, Betacommand case deadlocked, Muhammad images close near
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The Signpost: 23 January 2012 edit
- News and notes: SOPA blackout, Orange partnership
- WikiProject report: The Golden Horseshoe: WikiProject Toronto
- Featured content: Interview with Muhammad Mahdi Karim and the best of the week
- Arbitration report: Four open cases, proposed decision in Muhammad images, AUSC call for applications
- Technology report: Looking ahead to MediaWiki 1.19 and related issues
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The Signpost: 30 January 2012 edit
- In the news: Zambian wiki-assassins, Foundation über alles, editor engagement and the innovation plateau
- Recent research: Language analyses examine power structure and political slant; Wikipedia compared to commercial databases
- WikiProject report: Digging Up WikiProject Palaeontology
- Featured content: Featured content soaring this week
- Arbitration report: Five open cases, voting on proposed decisions in two cases
- Technology report: Why "Lua" is on everybody's lips, and when to expect MediaWiki 1.19
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The Signpost: 06 February 2012 edit
- News and notes: The Foundation visits Tunisia, analyzes donors
- In the news: Leading scholar hails Wikipedia, historians urged to contribute while PR pros remain shunned
- Discussion report: Discussion swarms around Templates for deletion and returning editors of colourful pasts
- WikiProject report: The Eye of the Storm: WikiProject Tropical Cyclones
- Featured content: Talking architecture with MrPanyGoff
- Arbitration report: Four open cases, final decision in Muhammad images, Betacommand 3 near closure
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The Signpost: 13 February 2012 edit
- Special report: Fundraising proposals spark a furore among the chapters
- News and notes: Foundation launches Legal and Community Advocacy department
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The Signpost: 20 February 2012 edit
- Special report: The plight of the new page patrollers
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The Signpost: 27 February 2012 edit
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- Discussion report: Focus on admin conduct and editor retention
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The Signpost: 05 March 2012 edit
- News and notes: Chapter-selected Board seats, an invite to the Teahouse, patrol becomes triage, and this week in history
- In the news: Heights reached in search rankings, privacy and mental health info; clouds remain over content policing
- Discussion report: COI and NOTCENSORED: policies under discussion
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The Signpost: 12 March 2012 edit
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- Discussion report: Nothing changes as long discussions continue
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- Featured content: Extinct humans, birds, and Birdman
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The Signpost: 19 March 2012 edit
- News and notes: Chapters Council proposals take form as research applications invited for Wikipedia Academy and HighBeam accounts
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The Signpost: 26 March 2012 edit
- News and notes: Controversial content saga continues, while the Foundation tries to engage editors with merchandising and restructuring
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- Featured content: Malfunctioning sharks, toothcombs and a famous mother: featured content for the week
- Arbitration report: Race and intelligence review at evidence, article titles closed
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The Signpost: 02 April 2012 edit
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- News and notes: Berlin reforms to movement structures, Wikidata launches with fanfare, and Wikipedia's day of mischief
- WikiProject report: The Signpost scoops The Signpost
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Dispute resolution survey edit
 Dispute Resolution – Survey Invite Hello Gigs. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released. Please click HERE to participate. You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang DR goes to Wikimania! 12:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC) |
The Signpost: 09 April 2012 edit
- News and notes: Projects launched in Brazil and the Middle East as advisors sought for funds committee
- WikiProject report: The Land of Steady Habits: WikiProject Connecticut
- Featured content: Assassination, genocide, internment, murder, and crucifixion: the bloodiest of the week
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The Signpost: 16 April 2012 edit
- Arbitration analysis: Inside the Arbitration Committee Mailing List
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- Discussion report: The future of pending changes
- WikiProject report: The Butterflies and Moths of WikiProject Lepidoptera
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The Signpost: 23 April 2012 edit
- Investigative report: Spin doctors spin Jimmy's "bright line"
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- Featured content: A mirror (or seventeen) on this week's featured content
- Arbitration report: Evidence submissions close in Rich Farmbrough case, vote on proposed decision in R&I Review
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The Signpost: 30 April 2012 edit
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The Signpost: 07 May 2012 edit
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- Featured content: This week at featured content: How much wood would a Wood Duck chuck if a Wood Duck could chuck wood?
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The Signpost: 14 May 2012 edit
- WikiProject report: Welcome to Wikipedia with a cup of tea and all your questions answered - at the Teahouse
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- Arbitration report: R&I Review closed, Rich Farmbrough near closure
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The Signpost: 21 May 2012 edit
- From the editor: New editor-in-chief
- WikiProject report: Trouble in a Galaxy Far, Far Away....
- Featured content: Lemurbaby moves it with Madagascar: Featured content for the week
- Arbitration report: No open arbitration cases pending
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The Signpost: 28 May 2012 edit
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The Signpost: 04 June 2012 edit
- Special report: WikiWomenCamp: From women, for women
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- Featured content: On the lochs
- Arbitration report: Two motions for procedural reform, three open cases, Rich Farmbrough risks block and ban
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WikiProject Requested articles edit
 | Hello Gigs/Archive 12, I thought you might be interested, and wanted to invite you to participate in WikiProject Requested articles, a project dedicated to cleaning the backlog of Requested articles and improving the current requests system. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 07:00, 8 June 2012 (UTC) |
The Signpost: 11 June 2012 edit
- News and notes: Foundation finance reformers wrestle with CoI
- WikiProject report: Counter-Vandalism Unit
- Featured content: The cake is a pi
- Arbitration report: Procedural reform enacted, Rich Farmbrough blocked, three open cases
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