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RE: Notability of Dean Winters
editHi forrest, saw your post on the help desk. Tried to find some good third-party sources for your dad's article. This interview with Filmmaker mag: http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/issues/summer1994/obsession.php should be considered an independent third-party source. If you need any help putting it in there, drop me a line (click on the "talk" after "The Interior") Have a good one, hope you enjoy working on Wikipedia, The Interior(Talk) 01:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Reliable Sources
editHey Forrest. In response to your note, because Blackbook is considered a "trade magazine" (i.e. its only market is film industry professionals), it is seen as small-market and as having weak editorial standards (which may or may not be true). IMdb is definitely not a a reliable source, because it's content is user-generated. But I believe filmmaker mag is wide-circulation mag, with editorial oversight. Also, the Sundance Institute would be considered reliable, at least in terms of the awards it confers. I'm getting this from the policy page Wikipedia:ReliableSources. So as the article progresses, references like Blackbook will probably be replaced and improved.
On another note, a person has to be careful with having two accounts - see Wikipedia:MultipleAccounts. There is practice called "sockpuppetry" whereby users assume two identities in order to push their point of view, or to evade trouble they have gotten into. So as long as there is no shenanigans, two accounts are fine. I personally appreciate it when a user states on his/her user page that that is the case, avoiding confusion with other editors. But back to the task at hand: references. The neat and tidy way to do refs is to use these templates: WP:CITET. I know they look a bit unwieldy, but any field you don't fill in doesn't show up. So we'll copy and paste the cite journal template into the part of the article to be reffed, and bang in the available info from the article:
{{Cite journal | last = Bernstein | first = Paula S. | authorlink = | coauthors = | title = Obsession for Men | journal = Filmmaker | volume = | issue = | pages = | publisher = | location = | date = | url = http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/issues/summer1994/obsession.php | issn = | doi = | id = | accessdate = October 28 2010}}
As you can see, this article is missing an original date, which isn't the best, but work with what you have. Then you must place the ref tags:<ref></ref> before and after, and should pop up all neat and tidy in the References section. (This never works on first try, so use the preview button to see whats happening before you save.) Anyways, I'll let you have fun with refs, and I'll check up on the article after work. Good luck, The Interior(Talk) 18:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- P.S. I will also try and address the "reliable sources" tag.
Welcome and introduction
editHi, Fsilvers. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck! Chzz ► 21:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Good luck with editing; please drop me a line some time on my own talk page. There's lots of information below. Once again, welcome to the fantastic world of Wikipedia! -- Chzz ► 21:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
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editA discussion is taking place as to whether the article Tyler Silvers is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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Please explain why this article was not nominated for deletion: Keli Price
The Tyler Silvers article has 20 sources and no copyright issues with tons of independent notability, did you not click on any of the sources? The article above has one reference that is no longer on the internet and the first three sentences are an advertisement and there seems to be no issue with that?
Tyler Silvers was the creator and lead on a TV series picked up by Samuel Goldwyn Films that was on Prime Video, it's not like he made a student film or something, look at his following, look at the independent notability: https://www.instagram.com/tylersilvers22/?hl=en https://www.screendaily.com/news/samuel-goldwyn-films-snaps-up-short-form-comedy-series-becoming-jiff-from-silvers-brothers/5132771.article https://www.clichemag.com/celebrity-news/becoming-jiffs-tyler-silvers-on-comedy-family-and-navigating-mistaken-identity/ https://www.buzzfeed.com/jenniferabidor/heres-a-bunch-of-things-you-can-watch-on-amazon-prime-video https://thefilmstage.com/new-to-streaming-let-the-sunshine-in-private-life-phantom-thread-and-more/ https://www.indiewire.com/2011/06/paladin-takes-spiritual-drama-one-fall-242705/
Please open each link and check the references:
https://www.clichemag.com/celebrity-news/becoming-jiffs-tyler-silvers-on-comedy-family-and-navigating-mistaken-identity/ https://www.screendaily.com/news/samuel-goldwyn-films-snaps-up-short-form-comedy-series-becoming-jiff-from-silvers-brothers/5132771.article https://www.buzzfeed.com/jenniferabidor/heres-a-bunch-of-things-you-can-watch-on-amazon-prime-video https://thefilmstage.com/new-to-streaming-let-the-sunshine-in-private-life-phantom-thread-and-more/ http://www.samuelgoldwynfilms.com/becoming-jiff/ https://www.indiewire.com/2011/06/paladin-takes-spiritual-drama-one-fall-242705/ https://www.sonyclassics.com/manny/crew/hecht.html https://www.stage32.com/blog/Writing-Your-First-Screenplay-is-Easy-Said-No-One-Ever https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quadruple-overtime/id1331790011 https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/quadruple-overtime/e/52777017 https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/quadruple-overtime/e/52777018 https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/quadruple-overtime/e/52777016 https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/quadruple-overtime/e/53574295 https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/quadruple-overtime/e/53574295 https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/quadruple-overtime/e/52777017 https://www.horacemann.org/uploaded/HoraceMann/AcrossTheDivisions/2010-Feb/Record_20issue18.pdf https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gold_Key_Confirmation_of_Award_Letter_Tyler_Silvers_May_2011.pdf https://www.huffpost.com/entry/5-huge-mistakes-youll-mak_b_6058490 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-to-actually-make-a-su_b_8324100 https://www.stage32.com/blog/Writing-Your-First-Screenplay-is-Easy-Said-No-One-Ever
Here are links to the show and trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=415speAw_1I https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Jiff/dp/B07HYHNVC9
Social media: https://www.instagram.com/tylersilvers22/?hl=en https://twitter.com/tylersilvers22?lang=en --Fsilvers (talk) 04:45, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
The article Becoming Jiff has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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For some reason it seems GSS is picking on me. I've been a part of this community for years before GSS joined and I feel I am being bullied, I don't know if it is because of my race or religion but now he is trying to take down one of my articles from almost three years ago that had no issues. Becoming Jiff was very popular in the New York indie scene. BuzzFeed said it was a top 5 show on Prime Video! How is that not a reliable source? It had a major film distributor, Samuel Goldwyn Films. Dean Silvers produced it, he produced Flirting With Disaster and wrote the book Secrets of Breaking into the Film and TV Business, Reddit did an AMA with the filmmakers.
Here are some more reliable links: https://www.buzzfeed.com/jenniferabidor/heres-a-bunch-of-things-you-can-watch-on-amazon-prime-video https://www.clichemag.com/celebrity-news/becoming-jiffs-tyler-silvers-on-comedy-family-and-navigating-mistaken-identity/ https://www.screendaily.com/news/samuel-goldwyn-films-snaps-up-short-form-comedy-series-becoming-jiff-from-silvers-brothers/5132771.article https://www.reddit.com/r/AMAAggregator/comments/9p1hbj/were_the_silvers_brothers_the_creators_of_the/ https://thefilmstage.com/new-to-streaming-let-the-sunshine-in-private-life-phantom-thread-and-more/ http://www.samuelgoldwynfilms.com/becoming-jiff/
Nomination of Becoming Jiff for deletion
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Blocked for sockpuppetry
editThis account has been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for sock puppetry per evidence presented at w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fsilvers. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. Once the block has expired, you're welcome to make useful contributions. If you believe that this block was in error, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. GeneralNotability (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2020 (UTC) |
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Request reason:
I am not Egrayson12, I did not edit anything under that account. My account has been FSilvers for almost a decade. This is a false accusation, there is no evidence even supporting this. If you look a the history of the Tyler Silvers page other users have had it redirect to the Becoming Jiff page. Why would I want to remove the Tyler Silvers page that I just added? This once again is online bullying. I thought “Wikipedia is not about winning”, it's about editors taking pride in improving articles and educating others. --Fsilvers (talk) 17:55, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not presently blocked. SQLQuery me! 23:54, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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Blocked for sockpuppetry
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. GeneralNotability (talk) 00:20, 7 November 2020 (UTC)Fsilvers (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Who the heck are Drwho92 and Chloe kath? That's not me. I used to love Wikipedia, I'd edit all the time for over a decade, but now I've given up on wikipedia, it seems they've lost control of some of their editors. I posted a stub about a popular American Web Series "Becoming Jiff" (it's recommend on Amazon Prime after tons of other popular shows) three years ago, hundreds of editors had no problem with the stub, but then it was taken down because some editor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GSS) in India didn't think it was a notable movie? That makes no sense, it's not a movie. He obviously doesn't understand the American Web Series world.
I would look into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GSS. It seems he has been abusing his power, I just checked his article history, it's odd how he makes American Wikipedia articles for Indian politicians that have no notability. Also it looks like instead of defending any of his articles that are purposed for deletion he just undoes it, yet he forces everyone else to defend their articles when he purposes deletion. #corruption #hypocrisy #PsychologicalProjection. Fsilvers (talk) 01:02, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Yeah, all that sounds very nice, but you're on the same IP address as Drwho92. Also, I've blocked your other sock puppet, Foozzball. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:57, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I live in an doorman building that has a common area with a TV and computer, that means hundreds of people have the same IP address, sorry but I do not know who Chloe kath, Drwho92 or Foozzball are. I have been an editor for over 10 years, I don't understand the attitude. It's a shame it seems people pick on small editors and seem to be afraid to question bigger editors. Wikipedia seems to feel more like corporation than a community these days.
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Being in the same building does not explain the similarity in edits. 331dot (talk) 10:29, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Google the series, the 6th result is the entire article on en.everybodywiki.com (and it was on wikipedia for three years). It seems a new and inexperienced editor just copied it. I have never done anything like this over the past decade that I have been an editor, why would I start now? Fsilvers (talk) 21:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Confirmed sockpuppetry with Drwho92. I can't rule out the explanation of a shared computer but given the timelines involved in the checkuser data, this seems extraordinarily unlikely. Yamla (talk) 21:41, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Dear Yamla, I appreciate your professionalism and problem solving skills regarding this situation. I wanted to email you to explain more but I couldn't find your email in the toolbox. Let me explain my living situation. This web-series is very popular in my building in New York City, the attendant to the common area has been playing it for almost three years now on the TV and it has been shown during social gatherings. People Google it as they watch etc., I cannot control the passion of my neighbors, one of my neighbors must've put it back up. Think of it like having 200 roommates and imagine if you removed one of their favorite shows from Wikipedia Fsilvers (talk) 22:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I've reviewed your edits and I'm certain that there's either sockpupperty or meat puppetry here. As you refuse to acknowledge this, I'm removing your ability to edit this page, as you've wasted our time for long enough. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 22:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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