Welcome, FourPi!

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Again, welcome to Wikipedia! I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. FourPi (talk) 16:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@I dream of horses First question, what's the difference between notices and alerts? The bell and the other thingy in the top right? FourPi (talk) 16:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Notices seem to only notify me of two things:
  1. People thanking you
  2. Links that are created to articles you've created
Alerts seems to notify me of everything else (reverts, people pinging me, talk page messages, etc.) So, basically, the gist is, alerts notify you of more, and notices are more specific. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 07:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@I dream of horses, thank you.
So, am I correct to deduce that the alerts are more urgent and the notices are just nice things that can wait? Where do talk pages messages fit in that hierarchy?
FourPi (talk) 05:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
You are more or less correct, but there's always a slight amount of everything being situation dependent.
Talk page messages greatly vary in how urgent they are; it can range from "Hey, [insert further greeting and/or compliment here]." to "You are blocked/about to be blocked from Wikipedia." I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@I dream of horses, did I do that archive correctly? FourPi (talk) 00:47, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
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@DPL bot: Is there an efficient way to know if I'm adding disambiguation links? The way to be sure would be to follow every link I add, but is there a way to quickly spot errors? FourPi (talk) 13:08, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

pdf icon on references

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How do I make the pdf icon show up on references? It is on some but not others in United States Patent and Trademark Office. Is it automated? The refs I'm trying to add it to don't have ".pdf" in the URL. FourPi (talk) 13:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi FourPi. I'm pretty sure the PDF icon on the sources is automated, though it seems like only one source on United States Patent and Trademark Office is missing that icon since they show up on the rest of the PDF sources for me. I'm not quite sure why it doesn't show up either. The Night Watch (talk) 19:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi FourPi. You can use the format=PDF parameter to indicate the file type. Unfortunately, it does not render the icon, which only happens when the template automatically detects that the source is a PDF. It's still worth it, I think, so that readers know what will happen when they click on the URL. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
thank you. FourPi (talk) 13:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

August 2024

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  Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! Bsoyka (tcg) 02:17, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

A lot of my large edits are just formatting multiple refs that were bare links. I think I usually write "refs" or similar for that, but I probably forget sometimes. Other times I'm not sure what to say, but I'll try to write at least a couple of words from now on. I'll turn on the reminder, thank you for telling me how to do that. FourPi (talk) 03:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Edit reverted

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hello

your recent edit was reverted https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip&diff=prev&oldid=1238698621

it is causing issues with visual editor

it also reverted my change and you did not provide a reason Astropulse (talk) 07:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry. I didn't intend to revert yours. I think we must have been editing the page at the same time, I only intended to move the boxes, not change that bit of text.
The boxes and sidebars etc. going thin-wide-thin, made the text a strange shape, that was particularly awkward on narrow screens. But if it caused a bigger problem elsewhere I don't mind my change being undone.
FourPi (talk) 09:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Astropulse. It looks like somebody else has now removed what you added and asked you to discuss it on the talk page.
I actually like what you added – if I'm interpreting the edit history correctly? – it's definitely worth mentioning that there was a blockade before 2007.
But I'm staying out of the discussion on the page because I only intended to change the layout. Just letting you know so you don't think it was me again, or for if you wanted to raise it on the talk page yourself.
FourPi (talk) 02:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Will you help me

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help me fix the Brian Draper and Torey Adamcik article https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Draper_and_Torey_Adamcik 105.69.73.176 (talk) 22:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've never heard of either of those people. Why me? FourPi (talk) 23:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Here (in the main English Wikipedia) the article is called Murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart. I've connected the article you linked to the corresponding articles in other languages. If you wanted something else, you'll need to be more specific? FourPi (talk) 23:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Template:Hamas

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I would appreciate it if you added to the navigation template Template:Hamas this link

* tunnel warfare

The Hamas tunnels are a significant part of their warfare אדומיניק (talk) 19:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@אדומיניק, I agree it's relevant, but you need to request it on the talk page for the article you want changed: Talk:Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip.
You really should do it as a Wikipedia:Edit requests. If you use this Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard it's fairly easy. I'm guessing the last option "page is protected" / "you can't edit the page" is the reason you need somebody else to add it? If that's the reason then this link takes you there directly: Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard/Protected. If you paste Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip in the box on that page it writes all the code for you, and then just paste what you've written here in the section where it tells his to write your request.
Sorry it's a bit complicated،, I often wish Wikipedia made things like that simpler for new editors, but hopefully my summary of the instructions makes sense?
FourPi (talk) 06:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nomination for deletion of Template:Palestinian leaders

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 Template:Palestinian leaders has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nomination for deletion of Template:Hamas history

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 Template:Hamas history has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Makeandtoss what don't you like about these? I feel like I'm missing a subtext or something? FourPi (talk) 14:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
You can find the elaborations on their respective discussions. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Selfstudier (talk) 10:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip

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In your edit of 10:18, 20 August 2024‎ (UTC) of Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip, you caused two ref names, B'tselem and B'tselemBombed Fam, to be used without definitions. Please fix. —Anomalocaris (talk) 18:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Anomalocaris I think I fixed it now. Thank you for explaining the problem so clearly, telling me exact refs missing and page etc. FourPi (talk) 22:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Good job on fixing the missing ref names. In that edit, you changed
[http://www.btselem.org/testimonies/20140709_gaza_protective_edge_muhammad_hamad "Muhammad Hamad, 75, resident of Beit Hanun, relates how bombing killed his family members in their yard"]
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[http://www.btselem.org/testimonies/20140709_gaza_protective_edge_muhammad_hamad "Muhammad Hamad, 75, resident of [[Beit Hanun]], relates how bombing killed his family members in their yard"]
which caused a Links in links error, which Jonesey95 promptly fixed. The problem is, you can't have an internal link (a Wikilink) inside an external link. Don't feel bad, Wikipedia is a collaborative process and we work together to make things great! —Anomalocaris (talk) 07:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Sorry about the link error. It looks like I got a bit confused between the reference and main text. Thanks to Jonesey95 for fixing it. FourPi (talk) 08:06, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Category:Palestinians born before 1948 has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Palestinians born before 1948 has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please review how categories work Wikipedia:Categorization before you make more categories like this. Mason (talk) 03:42, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Mason, @Smasongarrison: can you be more specific please? "like this" in what way? and which aspect of how categories work? I've looked at Wikipedia:Categorization and it's not clear which bit I got wrong? Do all three have the same problem? FourPi (talk) 04:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Category:Palestinian Joint Operations Room has been nominated for merging

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Category:Fatah splinter groups has been nominated for merging

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Category:Fatah splinter groups has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply