User talk:FenrisAureus/Archive 2
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“Mr. Middle”
Hello, so that was not a joke edit. While Bryan Cranston does play a parodic fictionalised version of himself in the sixteenth season of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, that character is exclusively referred to as “Mr. Middle”, because the foolish main characters only know him from Malcolm in the Middle, and as they have never heard of Breaking Bad, and similarly mistake Aaron Paul for Frankie Muniz and so exclusively refer to him as “Malcolm”. Their real names are never used, and while implicitly meant to be celebrities based on themselves, those characters are never named, nor is Breaking Bad ever mentioned. 113.30.191.65 (talk) 12:16, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies fellow traveler! I checked and you are indeed correct. Although you might want to use a footnote to explain that nuance or I'm pretty sure people are going to assume what I did and think you're joking. Here's how you do that:
"Mr. Middle"/Himself{{efn|put your note here}}- All the way at the bottom, below the references section you'll put
==Notes== {{Notelist}}
- This will render as:
- "Mr. Middle"/Himself[a]
- (it doesnt work properly here but it will in the article)
- Feel free to do that and consider the matter resolved although it would be best to just credit Cranston as "Walter White" and not "Walter "Walt" White / Heisenberg" for the sake of simplicity as it is just one character.— FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 12:46, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- Will do! Thank you! 113.30.191.65 (talk) 12:53, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar |
| Great work on anti-vandalism! Tails Wx 17:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC) |
- Thanks fellow traveller! — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 18:37, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Constant vandalism
Can you please look at the history of Manzoor Pashteen article again? There's an account who keeps adding back unreferenced inflammatory material to it. They need to be reported 175.107.224.105 (talk) 18:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I rollbacked Celeron24's edits and left a final warning template on their talk page. I have added Manzoor Pashteen to my watchlist and will be notified if Celeron24 attempts to reinstate the content in question. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 19:26, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE Logical Intervention (talk) 02:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for reaching out. I believe that you have made a mistake in overwriting my edit. "At one time, there existed two dialects of the Inuttut language. The Inuit that reside south of the Davis Inlet in what is now known as Nunatuĸavut once spoke a divergent dialect known as "Nunatuĸavummiutut", indicated by differences in toponymy. [6] However, due to heavy European immigration into Nunatuĸavut, this dialect has since become extinct".[6]
Prior to 2010 NunatuKavut (Inuit) was the Labrador Metis Nation (a mix of First Nations Indians and Europeans. Two distinct groups. How can the NunatuKavut dialect of "Nunatuĸavummiutut" go extinct when NunatuKavut only came into being in 2010?
http://www.southernlabrador.ca/home/rich_heritage.htm "English is the language of Southern Labrador, but you'll be surprised when you hear it. It's not the English of Canadian television and radio, it's Newfoundland English, which has preserved many old words and turns of phrase, especially about the fishery, that the rest of the English speaking world has lost".
The people of southern Labrador speak "Newfoundland English", not Inuit. Furthermore, the communities on their 'communities page' http://www.southernlabrador.ca/home/communities.htm are the same communities that are now listed as NunatuKavut (Inuit) communities. https://nunatukavut.ca/about/our-communities/.
Information within Wikipedia should be an accurate and truthful account of historical events. I am working to correct the misrepresentation herein.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Logical Intervention (talk • contribs)
- Apologies fellow traveller, I am not very well versed in this subject and am having a hard time following your argument. Could you please put this more simply?— FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 02:42, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Check out the obvious inconsistency.
- NunatuKavut claims to be a separate, distinct group - with a divergent language that went extinct - from the Inuit of Nunatsiavut in Northern Labrador.
- Yet, when you go to the NunatuKavut home page of Wikipedia, if you click on the "NunatuKavummiutut" language link you are redirected to the Inuttitut page which is the language of the people of Nunatsiavut in Northern Labrador.
- Furthermore, they list their country as "Inuit Nunangat", which is the territory of the Nunatsiavut people. Inuit Nunangat publicly denounced NunatuKavut in stating that they don't recognize NunatuKavut as an Inuit territory. Logical Intervention (talk) 03:20, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm tired and this is still not making sense to me, but you seem to know what your talking about, so I'm just gonna take your word for this. Go ahead and make the changes. I won't interfere. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 03:26, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Kindly. Logical Intervention (talk) 03:51, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm tired and this is still not making sense to me, but you seem to know what your talking about, so I'm just gonna take your word for this. Go ahead and make the changes. I won't interfere. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 03:26, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- I apologize. The NunatuKavut people changed their identities from Metis (mixed) to a distinctive full blood (Inuit). Metis are a mix, Inuit are not.
- Timeline
- 1985 - Labrador Metis Association.
- 1998 - Labrador Metis Nation.
- 1998 - 2010 Labrador Inuit/Metis.
- 2010 - NunatuKvut Inuit.
- Because they have changed their identities, you will find inconsistencies in their researchers information. They are not a distinct group of Inuit, in fact, they are not Inuit at all. Six NunatuKavut communities doesn't have one Inuk living in any of them. They claim to represent 6,000 Inuit from southern and central Labrador, yet it's only 6,000 when you combine the Metis and Inuit totals in those areas. They are reporting misinformation. All information regarding NunatuKavut needs to be reevaluated and corrected. Logical Intervention (talk) 03:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- When, correcting this information, you should note the inconsistencies in reported population count to reflect this nuance. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 03:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thanks for your anti-vandal work.
Grumpylawnchair (talk) 01:50, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks fellow traveller! — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 01:53, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Algorithms are INCORRECTLY linking me and my content to this article because I share the same surname. 2600:1700:DCE0:28E0:C53C:20F1:377D:8CE1 (talk) 04:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies fellow traveller, but I am unclear on what you would like me to do about this. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 04:55, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions
Hello FenrisAureus,
I’m reaching out as part of a Cornell University academic study investigating the potential for user-facing tools to help improve discussion quality within Wikipedia discussion spaces (such as talk pages, noticeboards, etc.). We wanted to invite you to join the study because we believe such user-facing tools could potentially be useful to you in your work as an administrator, where you occasionally have to interact with editors who are wondering why you reverted or blocked them (alternatively, it could be that these tools end up not being useful for this at all, in which case we would still want to know!).
The study centers around a prototype tool, ConvoWizard, which is designed to warn Wikipedia editors when a discussion they are replying to is getting tense and at risk of derailing into personal attacks or incivility. More information about ConvoWizard and the study can be found at our research project page on meta-wiki.
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If you have any questions or thoughts about the study, our team is happy to discuss! You may direct such comments to me or to my collaborator, Cristian_at_CornellNLP. Thank you for your consideration.
--- Jonathan at CornellNLP (talk) 15:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies but I am not an Admin. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 15:33, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies for the confusion, I am a Rollbacker which gives me access to only a limited subset of the tools available to Administrators. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 15:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Got it, sorry for the confusion! I think the original reasoning still applies in this case, so the offer to sign up remains open, that is if you're interested. Of course, if you're not interested you can feel free to ignore this. Have a nice day! Jonathan at CornellNLP (talk) 15:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will absolutely sign up! this seems like a valuable and novel contribution to the project I just did not want to misrepresent my self as an admin by signing up as such behavior is expressly forbidden by WP:TALKNO. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 16:01, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Got it, sorry for the confusion! I think the original reasoning still applies in this case, so the offer to sign up remains open, that is if you're interested. Of course, if you're not interested you can feel free to ignore this. Have a nice day! Jonathan at CornellNLP (talk) 15:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies for the confusion, I am a Rollbacker which gives me access to only a limited subset of the tools available to Administrators. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 15:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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Why is it “bigoted” to say that someone born with a penis and testes a man and will never be a woman? Punghole (talk) 04:21, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- And I don't understand why you think that I of all editors would be receptive to your transphobia.
- See MOS:GENDERID for Wikipedia's policy on this matter. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 04:37, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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FYI
I've brought the matter of the Penrose reversion up at the Physics WikiProject. I stand by the original edit, that the citation is of the poorest sort, unsuited to use to support the sentence to which it is appended, and arguing there for requiring its removal/replacement with a reliable scientific/biographical source that is not using Penrose's name in a self-serving fashion. Cheers.73.8.193.28 (talk) 15:31, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello fellow traveller! Please see my reply on WT:PHY#Roger Penrose reversion — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 22:48, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Good article reviews
Hi FenrisAureus, I just came across your GA review for Cisnormativity. Good Article reviews should inform the nominator and others looking back at the article history as to how the article in question meets the GACR at the time of the review. The GAN page here does not make that very obvious. It appears to be mostly just a copy of the GACR, and I can't tell what considerations were made towards broadness, which sources were checked for plagiarism, and similar. Would you be able to expand upon your thoughts as to how the article meets each of the GACR? Best, CMD (talk) 08:13, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Apologies fellow traveller, this has come at an inopportune time. I will be away for several days as I will be on holiday, but rest assured I will get back to you. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 06:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- I have added more info on 2a,2b,2c,2d but for most of the others, an article either meets the criteria or it doesn't. How I (and others as I understand) deal with those is by either passing the criteria or explaining why it fails, and giving suggestions for remediation. Is there something I am missing? — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 02:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the changes. The source check is specifically required, but overall checklist reviews are not regarded as sufficient. Ideally there should be an explanation for why a criteria is passed, similar to there being an explanation for why it fails. Any other thoughts help others looking later to understand the review, and adds specific positive feedback to the nominator. CMD (talk) 02:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, will keep this in mind for future reviews. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 04:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the changes. The source check is specifically required, but overall checklist reviews are not regarded as sufficient. Ideally there should be an explanation for why a criteria is passed, similar to there being an explanation for why it fails. Any other thoughts help others looking later to understand the review, and adds specific positive feedback to the nominator. CMD (talk) 02:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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Deletion of content
Dear @FenrisAureus,Someone has removed my content by giving reasons which are against policy.Please have a look at it. Krishnan01 (talk) 14:35, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, but where did the removal take place? — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 14:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- The text you added to Saraswat Brahmin per Krishnan01's edit request was disputed by another editor and reverted due to unreliable sourcing. Lard Almighty (talk) 14:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I figured that out. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 15:07, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- The text you added to Saraswat Brahmin per Krishnan01's edit request was disputed by another editor and reverted due to unreliable sourcing. Lard Almighty (talk) 14:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Sock puppetry
Dear @FenrisAureus, I am no way related to sock(As I understood from Wikipedia page-Alternative account of someone).This is unique account without any sub account(I can furnish any details regarding the account) .Neither I have abused anyone nor against anyone.It May be your duty to doubt the user but reconsider mine.I messaged you directly as I don’t know that much regarding Wikipedia so I have least knowledge regarding this. Goyambab (talk) 08:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23
New year, new scripts. Welcome to the 23rd issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering around 39% of our favorite new and updated user scripts since 24 December 2021. That’s right, we haven’t published in two years! Can you believe it? Did you miss us?
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- diff-permalink-2 allows quickly copying wikilinks to diff and permalink pages from those pages, a variation of existing script User:Enterprisey/diff-permalink
- archiver is a fork of Σ's Archiver with several bugfixes.
- /parent-cats highlights categories that are a subcategory of a category already included in a page's categories.
- User:Guarapiranga/accessKeysCheatSheet adds an access key shortcut to display all shortcuts based on code provided by Nardog and NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh.
- User:HungKhanh0106/ProperDisplay loads a bunch of fonts to add correct rendering supports for "esoteric" languages.
- User:Jeeputer/highlightPiped will make piped links irresistible (or else).
- User:Jerome Frank Disciple/curlyfixer.js adds an WP:AutoEd function that straightens curly quotes per MOS. That's right! Such a module was only made in the 14th year of AutoEd's existence! Configure away!
- Frequently link to Wikipedia on your websites yet find generating CC-BY credits to be such a hassle? Say no more! User:Luke10.27/attribute will automatically do it for ya and copy the credit to yer clipboard.
- User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft, a spiritual successor (i.e. fork) to Evad37's script, with a few bugs solved, and a host of extra features like check-boxes for choosing draftification reasons, multi-contributor notification, and appropriate warnings based on last edit time.
- Nardog
- /CopyCodeBlock: one of the most important operations for any scripter and script-user is to copy and paste. This script adds a copy button in the top right of every code block (not to be confused with <code>) that will, well, copy it to your clipboard!
- /RCMuter: Hide specific users, perhaps User:MediaWiki message delivery, from the Watchlist and Recent Changes.
- /VitalTopicon makes you see the vital article topicon on WP:vital articles.
- m:User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AceForLuaDebugConsole.js adds the Ace editor (a.k.a. the editor you see when editing JS, CSS and Lua on Wikimedia wikis) to the Lua debug console. "In my opinion, whoever designed it to be a plain <textarea> needs to seriously reconsider their decision."
- Novem Linguae
- DraftCleaner fixes formatting of new articles.
- GANReviewTool quickly and easily closes good article nominations.
- ReviewStatus displays whether or not a mainspace page is marked as reviewed.
- SpeciesHelper tries to add the correct speciesbox, category, taxonbar, and stub template to species articles.
- User:Opencooper/svgReplace and Tol's fork replaces all rasterized SVGs with their original SVG codes for your loading pleasures. Tell us which one is better!
- User:Phlsph7/HighlightUnreferencedPassages adds a button to highlight all unreferenced paragraphs in reds, and can even do it automatically.
- Still hate Vector 2022's floating TOC? User:Phlsph7/UnfoldedNumberedTOC(Vector2022) might make you give it a try.
- Quite a bit of pages at Special:WantedCategories either exist now or got removed. User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/hideUnwantedCategories automatically hides those.
- User:SuperHamster's Wikipedia:Tools/View it! generates a gallery of images for a given subject on any Wikimedia project utilizing Structured Data on Commons. Images can then be added as needed.
- Terasail
- ArticleInfo displays page information at the top of the page, directly below the title.
- /HeaderIcons takes away the Vector 2022 user dropdown and replaces it with all of the icons within, top level, right next to the Watchlist. One less click away! There's also an alternate version that uses text links instead of icons.
- ...and any more, all available at WP:US/L.
Due to budget and procrastination limitations, we've only had time to review the first ~39% of the scripts since last issue. Help us out here! Aaron Liu (talk) 13:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
Administrator changes
CheckUser changes
Oversighter changes
Arbitration
- Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
- The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.
Miscellaneous
- The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
The Signpost: 10 January 2024
- From the editor: NINETEEN MORE YEARS! NINETEEN MORE YEARS!
- Special report: Public Domain Day 2024
- Technology report: Wikipedia: A Multigenerational Pursuit
- News and notes: In other news ... see ya in court!
- WikiProject report: WikiProjects Israel and Palestine
- Obituary: Anthony Bradbury
- Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2023
- Comix: Conflict resolution
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