User talk:Femke/Archive 4

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Liz in topic ANI

World War II and the history of Jews in Poland: Arbitration case opened edit

Hello Femke,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 04, 2023, which is when the first evidence phase closes. Submitted evidence will be summarized by Arbitrators and Clerks at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence/Summary. Owing to the summary style, editors are encouraged to submit evidence in small chunks sooner rather than more complete evidence later.

Details about the summary page, the two phases of evidence, a timeline and other answers to frequently asked questions can be found at the case's FAQ page.

For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

For the Arbitration Committee,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:14, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Netherlands article edit

Hey, Femke! I've just created Palmwood shipwreck and was looking at WikiProject Netherlands for someone who might be willing to take a look. I've found a lot of sources in English, but there may be some in Dutch that I'm not finding because I'm not using the right search terms. I see that this might not be within your areas of interest, so if you're not interested, no worries! Valereee (talk) 16:10, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I've asked somebody with an interest in Texel and ships offwiki. The sources on the Dutch version of the article don't seem very in-depth at a glance. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:10, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
And I just discovered the Dutch version after some bot connected the two! Thanks! Valereee (talk) 17:14, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
They recommended the museum website: https://kaapskil.nl/het-palmhoutwrak/. Already cited in the article, but all information is also available in English, so it may be an easier source to use that it looks at first glance. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:38, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

"deplorable state but not supercore" edit

Just a comment that I'd entirely agree with your assessment-- I'm not really in it to win it, more working on a somewhat important article that could benefit from improvement. If it doesn't fit the scope of the contest, I'd be happy to remove my entry. Best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 13:26, 18 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I would definitely say it fits the scope of the contest :). Any capital would do! It's just that more core article are easier if you want to go for the win. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 13:30, 18 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your deal in the news edit

Check this out lol. jp×g 20:36, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

I very very much agree (and have spoken about this with @Astinson (WMF) on multiple occasions). And it's not only in 'climatetech' that we stop being neutral because we're outdated, it's also true for the physics of climate change. The physical science 10-15 years ago was much more uncertain, and climate denial can almost be defined as exaggerating uncertainty. And some aspects of climate change weren't visible, leaving us with sentences like "heat wave are expected to increase in frequency". Have just starting editing the deplorable Energy policy of the European Union, curious what I'll find there. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:45, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Didn't have to look for long: the article states "Many underlying proposals are designed to limit global temperature changes to no more than 2 °C above pre-industrial levels, of which 0.8 °C has already taken place and another 0.5–0.7 °C is already committed.".. We're at 1.2C now. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – April 2023 edit

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AWB Request edit

Greetings @Femke, I saw you have recently approved another users AWB rights request and I am wondering if you could take a look at mine. I am eager to start using the tool.

Thanks, - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 19:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Bit too tired to look at it today, but will have another look tomorrow. I see you're lower on non-automated edits than typically required however. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I completely understand being tired. I am really busy at work right now, and am very stressed. About my non-automated edits, the granting guidelines say “Users with under 250 non-automated mainspace edits or 500 total mainspace edits will likely not be accepted.” I have almost 1,000 total Mainspace edits, so that should work, right? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:26, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

New message from Illusion Flame edit

 
Hello, Femke. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/AutoWikiBrowser.
Message added 20:16, 12 April 2023 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

- 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:16, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Effects of climate change edit

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Effects of climate change you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 18:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

My AWB rights edit

Hello @Femke. A few days/weeks ago you granted me AWB rights. I have since tried to use them but have found they do not work with my browser/device. I see no reason to keep them as they will not be used, so please remove me from the list.

Thanks, - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:52, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Illusion Flame: Sorry for the late reply. You indicated that you wanted to try JWB. Have you tried AWB instead? It works as a Desktop application, so that may help you circumvent the device/browser limits you had. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 07:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
AWB doesn’t work either. I am a mobile user, so AWB doesn’t work at all and JWB works, but is unusable because of my screen size. Thanks for trying to help anyway. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:35, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Did you see my reply? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 02:42, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I did, but prioritised by limited energy elsewhere. Have removed you now. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:31, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – May 2023 edit

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Request on 13:17:34, 1 May 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Violaine LI edit


Hello Femke,

Thank you for giving advice on the three best resources. Please find them as follows: 1.For the first dialogue of the China-Europe-America Net-Zero Transition Platform https://www.bjreview.com/World/202112/t20211224_800270989.html 2.For the first dialogue of the China-Europe-America Philanthropy Cooperation Initiative http://www.chinatoday.com.cn/ctenglish/2018/commentaries/202109/t20210909_800257880.html 3.For the first dialogue of the China-Europe-America Museums Cooperation Initiative second dialogue http://www.china.org.cn/arts/2022-05/20/content_78229240.htm

There were more sources made to the second submission but some of them are in Chinese.

Please advice further on how more improvements can be made to this article.

Violaine LI (talk) 13:17, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank @Violaine LI. I've copied the sources over to the talk page of the draft.
The first news article you shared does not contain enough information about the initiative to qualify (only 1 sentence). Furthermore, it's not sufficiently independent of the initiative, as it is largely based on quotes from involved people. I feel the other two may be based off of press releases, but I'm unfamiliar with those sources. If no three articles exist that are independent of the topic (so articles not based on interviews with involved people / press releases), there is not much more you can do than wait for more sources to be published. No matter of improvements to the article can make a topic WP:notable if not enough has been published about it. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:03, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you Femke for your prompt response.
Regarding the perspective of "sufficiently independent of the initiative",
there is another article which contains no quotes of involved people and thus more independent.
Please check : https://ciss.tsinghua.edu.cn/info/CFEvents/4352
It was published on the site of one of China's top University's. As for the other two sources, I estimate that they qualify the criteria that you mentioned.
All these sources were referred to on the article yet the submissions were declined. Violaine LI (talk) 14:05, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hello @Violaine LI. As Tsinghua was a partner in that dialogue, this is unfortunately not independent either. Writing new articles is very hard, and I typically do not recommend it to new editors. On another note, could I ask what your relation is to David Gosset? If you have a conflict of interest, you must declare it. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:02, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hello Femke, thank you for pointing out the COI. I didn't know about this. : {{Connected contributor|User1=Violaine LI |U1-declared=yes}}</nowiki> Violaine LI (talk) 12:44, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Also, on the page of David Gosset, there's a Maintenance template on the top of the page, regarding to citation. I've made improvements to the references according to the article "Wikipedia:Template index/Sources of articles". Please estimate if it's the time to remove the maintenance template. Violaine LI (talk) 12:54, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for letting me know. Are you paid for the contributions? If so, please also follow Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. The article doesn't have bare links anymore, so feel free to delete the tag. Even better would be to provide more information for the links with only a title, such as an author and English translation. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Effects of climate change edit

The article Effects of climate change you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Effects of climate change for comments about the article, and Talk:Effects of climate change/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 05:44, 16 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, Femke, for all the expert constructive work you do on this website. —RCraig09 (talk) 15:22, 16 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – June 2023 edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

  Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
  • As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

  Technical news

  • Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.

  Arbitration

  • The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

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Hemingway App edit

I just tried out the Hemingway App linked on your user page on the lead of Northumberland Avenue, a good article, and it came back as "poor". Chief complaints were most of the text was hard to read (but didn't explain why so I can't do anything) and said several places used "passive voice", which as far as I'm aware, is what Wikipedia's Manual of Style recommends. Have I got the wrong end of the stick? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:22, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I've just learned this trick last week on how to use all these apps better. They get confused about citations, but if you copy the text from Wikiwand (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Northumberland_Avenue), then the citations are not copied over and you get a more accurate score (I got "okay" for Northumberland Avenue; grade 11 rather than Hemingway's preferred 9). Much better than what I got in the GAs I wrote I before realised how much I overestimated reading skills.
In terms of the MOS, it doesn't seem to give a blanket recommendation (see MOS:PASSIVE). The passive voice can help avoid some unencyclopedic news-style details from appearing in articles. On the other hand, MOS:WEASEL gives plenty of examples of inappropriate passive voice. When both the object and subject of a sentence are relevant, we can switch to active voice without problem, such as was done in [1]
  • "Coastal flooding can be exacerbated by local subsidence which may be natural but can be increased by human activity"
  • "Local subsidence, which may be natural but can be increased by human activity, can exacerbate coastal flooding".
I think the latter is easier to read. Maybe Hemingway puts a bit too much emphasis on this one aspect of readability; WP:REDEX (Tony's exercises) is more comprehensive.
I don't think the passive in Northumberland Avenue is a problem at all. There are maybe two sentences that could be active? Having had a quick read of the article just now, I do think it's possible to nit-pick some more on the long sentences:
  • From the 1930s onwards, hotels disappeared from Northumberland Avenue and were replaced by offices used by departments of the British Government, including the War Office and Air Ministry, later the Ministry of Defence.
  • It had become one of the most popular hotels in London by the turn of the 20th century, being described by the War Office in 1914 as "of world-wide reputation", and was the original location of the Aero Club and Alpine Club. --> It had become one of the most popular hotels in London by the turn of the 20th century, and was the original location of the Aero Club and Alpine Club. The War Office described it as "of world-wide reputation" in 1914.
This reminds me that I was trying to write some more Wikipedia-specific guidance on readability at User:Femke/readability, as WP:READABILITY is not quite what you'd expect.. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hemingway uses the Flesch–Kincaid grade level I believe, so it will say your sentence is difficult if it has too many long words and too many words. Of course, some short words are difficult (thus, whom), or some long words are easy (like difficult, interesting), so it's just a proxy. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:49, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you! edit

  The Admin's Barnstar
Thank you very much for nominating me at RFA. I couldn't have asked for better nominators. I look forward to working with you in the future :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:54, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Delisting article edit

Hi @Femke,

I noticed a while back that you delisted David Carradine from the good article list. I totally agree. When I got serious with Wikipedia I looked up to good articles as a model to construct a page, not knowing there was such a thing as "Featured articles".

Anyways one of these article was Dolph Lundgren. Which was vastly intricate to the point that in his lede it was mentioned that he worked 4 times with a character actor named Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, that one of Quentin Tarantino's early credit was in a project starring Lundgren, and a full on description of the family life of a composer in a film where he co-stars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dolph_Lundgren&diff=prev&oldid=1035655847

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dolph_Lundgren&diff=prev&oldid=1049597807

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dolph_Lundgren&diff=prev&oldid=975716123

I did fix these specific problems. If you go into it's history there is information that was using citation that did not confirm that information.

Lundgren's page is too intricate, and was a bad model for me to follow I am wondering if you could re-evaluate it, it's not good at all. Filmman3000 (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello there!
Great you've been improving the article. I agree with you that its GA status needs a re-evaluation, as it contains significant text that is tagged for lacking citations. It's very common that old GAs fall in disrepair. A recently listed GA is a much better model.
You can list an article to be re-evaluated by following the instruction at WP:GAR. It's quite easy if you install the user script mentioned in the top-right box. Femke (alt) (talk) 17:35, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Core Contest winners announced edit

The winners of the 2023 The Core Contest are announced 🎉. We had an amazing set of improvements this year, and the judges (Femke, Aza24 and Casliber) would like to thank everybody who joined and congratulate the winners.

  • First place goes to Buidhe for improving The Holocaust; very core, highly relevant; their work on bringing geographical balance to the article puts the topic in a whole different light. We also commend improvements to sourcing and prose
  • A close second place goes to Phlsph7 for improving Education from an unstructured jumble into a well-sourced piece of instruction
  • Third prize goes to Johnbod for improving Donatello, a near five-fold expansion with great sourcing and fantastic imagery
  • A tie for fourth place goes to Thebiguglyalien for improving Crime, for a strong improvement in sourcing
  • A tie for fifth place goes to Sammielh for International law, improved by converting contextless listicles into a proper sourced prose

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DYK for Effects of climate change edit

On 29 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Effects of climate change, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that due to climate change there are not only more heatwaves over land, but also more heatwaves in the ocean? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Effects of climate change. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Effects of climate change), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – July 2023 edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

 

  Administrator changes

  Novem Linguae
 

  Bureaucrat changes

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  Arbitration

  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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August 2023 Good Article Nominations backlog drive edit

Good article nominations | August 2023 Backlog Drive
 
August 2023 Backlog Drive:
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2023 edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

 

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023 edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

  Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

  Technical news

  Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

  Miscellaneous

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Your GA nomination of Long COVID edit

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Long COVID you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:21, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Long COVID edit

The article Long COVID you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Long COVID for comments about the article, and Talk:Long COVID/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:01, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

GA edit

Congratulations on your newest GA! Are you planning to bring it up to FA status? If you need a copyeditor sometime, give me a shout :) Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 21:44, 23 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks :). I am thinking about it, but want to work on bringing chronic fatigue syndrome up to GA first. I want the topic to become a bit more stable before I go the FA route, and hopefully get some involvement from experts too. A copyedit would really be welcome before an FAC. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 06:41, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Wow. Chronic fatigue syndrome is an incredibly challenging and important topic. May The Force be with you! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 17:44, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you! edit

  The Barnstar of Diligence
For your exceptional patience and deliberate guidance in your review of Hypericum perforatum. Thank you for your Diligence and all your help! Fritzmann (message me) 00:20, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023 edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

  Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

  Technical news

  • Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

  Arbitration

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Quoted in The New York Times edit

Greetings! I hope that autumn finds you well. You've been quoted in the NYTimes article, Clean Energy’s Powerful Momentum. You were also quoted in the Times' "Climate Forward" email that I receive. Thank you for your service. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks :). It's been quite cool how much media attention the paper got. Today, I got to talk about the science in Dutch, which has turned embarassingly rusty, even struggling with simple words like "investor". Might start to properly turn truly British at some point. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Congrats on publication in such a prestigious journal! I see (through scholar.google.com) that you have other publications as well. You provide such valuable contributions and viewpoints to Wikipedia. Bedankt! —RCraig09 (talk) 19:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your opinion is requested edit

Your opinion is requested at Commons, File talk:1880- Global average sea level rise (SLR) - annually.svg, re a new SVG chart, compared to the PNG you uploaded earlier. —RCraig09 (talk) 16:21, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Antarctica edit

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 22 December 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/December 2023. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by user:dying, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before the article appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 17:58, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Precious anniversary edit

Precious
 
Two years!

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November Articles for creation backlog drive edit

 

Hello Femke:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over 2500 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023 edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

 

  Administrator changes

  0xDeadbeef
  Tamzin
  Dennis Brown

  Interface administrator changes

  Pppery
 

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  Arbitration

  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

  Miscellaneous


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Merger discussion for Illustrative model of greenhouse effect on climate change edit

  An article that you have been involved in editing—Illustrative model of greenhouse effect on climate change—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the cooperative discussion at ME/CFS edit

I do have one request that I didn't want to clog up on that talk page. If you put the first author and the date in a citation reference name I think it makes it easier later down the road when you're scoping outdated information in articles. Ward20 (talk) 21:01, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Of course :). The perennial Visual Editor issue. Will keep in mind to change the defaults to something sensible. Definitely plan to ask for this to be changed at next year's Community Wishlist. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 21:14, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Melvin Ramsay edit

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Your GA nomination of Melvin Ramsay edit

The article Melvin Ramsay you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Melvin Ramsay for comments about the article, and Talk:Melvin Ramsay/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Maxim Masiutin -- Maxim Masiutin (talk) 21:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Maxim Masiutin: that was a pleasant surprise, a review without to-dos. I'll surely improve the lead before nominating for DYK. I only need some inspiration as to what fact to pull out. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:46, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much! I reviewed the article and studied that person a little bit. There is very little information available. You've done a great job and covered most you could find during the life. Still, I was more focused on legacy, that's why I mentioned on foundations. Maybe you will be able to visit archives or some other sources where a photo can be found - that would be even awesome! Although an article without a photo would not probably pass FA requirements, but for the GA it is OK since the photo is hard to find. Please consider also doing reviews in biology and medicine sections, not my articles (so we would not be accused in favoritism) but other articles so the backlog will be lower and new reviewers will pick up my articles sooner. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
There are only two photos found online of him. I have tried contacting websites that used the better photo, but they could not point me to the right-holder. I was quite surprised how little is written on him, as he's often described as quite foundational for the field. Really had to dig deeply, took me a few hours to get enough for Wikipedia:Notability. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:29, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Can you please send me those photos by email (use Email this user option) either as attachments or as URLs Maxim Masiutin (talk) 20:13, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Can you please move this discussion about Melvin Ramsay on substance (starting from "Thank you very much! I reviewed the article and studied that person" from your user page to the Talk:Melvin Ramsay page so eventual future editors will be aware of our discussion, maybe they may suggest us on ideas about photos. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 20:14, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Maximum featured article size edit

Do you think this is worthwhile and any ideas please? [2] Tom B (talk) 19:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

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A question edit

I made a note to myself a while ago to ask you a question about something. Anyway, I've completely forgotten what it was, but I hope you've been well. jp×g🗯️ 09:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Ah thanks for dropping by here 😊
I've been doing okay given the utter chaos at work / at home. My and partner just bought our first place, and there is a lot of work to do even if you buy a house in a good state of repair and get a moving company to help. With long COVID, it's packing a single box a day, so our current place is slowly becoming a maze of boxes. Looking forward to having a properly insulated place after works are finished in January though.
At work, it's crisis management, as I hired somebody who's not quite up to the job. Also juggling a gazzillion different projects and teaching next term. How I wish I was a PhD candidate again and could actually get research done, rather than project management all the time. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:42, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Typing issues with mobile editing edit

the reply-tool is buggy (when I start typing, delete my sentence, and continue anew, I can't post). I should really open some phabs for this. You may be interested in the phab I created in Feb 2022, phab:T302083. Good ol' mobile editing. If it fits your issue, maybe go make a comment on it so it gets top of inbox again for the devs :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:13, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

That very much looks like it's the same! Posted. I never quite know the social norms/jargon on phab. Like, what does it that it's being "upstreamed". Does that mean "on it, no need to further nag us". Or is additional info still useful. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
There's some document somewhere that says you're not supposed to make "me too!" posts on Phab, but in this case I think an exception is warranted. That ticket needs some activity.
In this case, "upstreamed" means that TK-999 and Wikia copied our VisualEditor's code to make a Wikia VisualEditor. Then they submitted some GBoard-fixing patches just to the Wikia VisualEditor, but not the Wikimedia VisualEditor. "Upstreaming" means also submitting their patches to the Wikimedia VisualEditor. Looking at the code, looks like they've solved the bug, so yes, would be great to get those upstreamed.
If I may make one more suggestion, maybe edit your Phab comment to mention that you're using Android (rather than iOS). Hope this helps :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:33, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Article size edit

@Femke, the evidence suggests the max guideline should potentially be at 10,000, but i'm open to further analysis. I'm thinking of doing a survey/RfC like Wikipedia_talk:Article_size/Archive_6#Should_the_size_guideline_be_removed?, but in the other direction. E.g.

The size guideline of 15,000 comes from a technical limit in 2007, when Wikipedia was in its main growth phase. It is based on a technical limit which is obsolete. Evidence indicates we should tighten the guideline to 10,000 words, to increase quality and readability. [Add evidence from the tables] We could do this by tightening the guidance to 14,000 now, then 13,000 etc every 6 months till the 10,000 evidence-based limit is reached.

I appreciate we'll need to explain the evidence-base more. What do you think? Or is section size a better thing to invest time in? thanks very much for all your help already! Tom B (talk) 19:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Writing with voice software so excuse the errors.
Hello @Tpbradbury :). I think the evidence is still a too weak to say the guideline should go down. There is quite a focal group of people that this like the guideline as is. I'm sure memory is betraying Me but I think I once suggested that we go down to 12,000 which never got to RFC stage because of opposition. It's quite unlikely that consensus can be reached to go down in size.
In the end, the best way to know what the correct sizes for an article is to do reader research. This could be by selecting articles that are about similar topics that have significantly different lengths and asking readers whether they could find information they were looking for, if they could easily navigate on the page, and a few other questions. Quite a few questions on Wikipedia can be answered with reader research we typically do not have the tools as editor to do this type of research. The Research team at the WMF is quite small, and there is no meta:Community Tech equivalent for research, which is a shame.
I think there are a couple of other places we can make progress to make articles more readable.
Firstly, I think the WP:article size section on trimming and content removal can give more examples of when content can be removed uncontroversially. I've just added the first one, which is about copyediting for conciseness. We can find other examples in existing guidelines on other quality improvements that coincidentally decreased length. I think we surely must have some guidelines about articles that are initially based on news articles, and when the dust has settled can be rewritten from books 10 years later. These books typically leave out all the insignificant details. Leeds are often too long, so it's great if we can get some guidance included in them. Redundancy is something people forget to look out for when they call for a split prematurely.
More importantly, we do not have a guideline on readability, which is quite astounding, Given that we have guidelines on almost everything. @CactiStaccingCrane recently started a Help page on readability: Help:How to write a readable article. I think that page requires some work before it can be strongly linked from loads of other help pages. Maybe we can bring in more aspects of readability in their and includes readability into our accessibility guidelines. For me, articles in overly academic English probably form my biggest accessibility barrier since I've come down with long COVID cognitive problems. Our WP:accessibility guideline is very strongly focused on screen readers and doesn't take into account wider accessibility needs.
Finally, I've been dreaming about having enough time to organise a contest to improve ledes. So many of first sentences Bloated difficult to understand, Pedantic. The rest of the lead is often a bit better but can still be improved massively. Improving and leaders not a lot of work so with some enthusiastic participants we can really make a dent especially we focus on the hundred thousand most read Wikipedia articles for instance. As is, I find it difficult to have enough energy to organise the WP:Core Contest, which I try to do every year. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I've not heard of the core contest in years! Fair enough, my dream of shorter articles may have to wait a little longer Tom B (talk) 22:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
ok, thanks for the message and your continued help. it'll progress one way or another. after this is resolved, i was planning to suggest removing the word almost from the guideline, what do you think? it'll very likely need to go to rfc. of the 15 FAs currently over 15,000 words, nearly all are great men of history, Tom B (talk) 22:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

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DYK for Hannah E. Davis edit

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Name article edit

In case you're interested: I've listed Femke as good article nominee. – Editør (talk) 12:47, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hah, cool :). I wouldn't be surprised if a reviewer would like the article to be expanded further. The source you found on https://nvb.meertens.knaw.nl/verklaring/naam/Femme has more information on both the "Frede" part of the etymology and the "mar" part, if you click on those links. Potentially, there may be some more information on the social aspects in the following source; https://dspace.library.uu.nl/handle/1874/355635. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 13:10, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the suggestions and interesting paper! I have just added the Proto-Germanic roots for 'Frede' and 'mar' (using other sources that I found clearer about the root language) and I've added some info from the paper to the popularity section. – Editør (talk) 17:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
The article has just passed the GA review. Thanks again for your suggestions. – Editør (talk) 21:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Neuroinflammation edit

Just to clarify (as you mentioned "failed verification") the wording comes direct from ref 44 in the Lee review, as mentioned in my edit summary. But yes, it's probably better to either leave it out or just replace with a general neuroinflammation review. What are your thoughts on this? sciencewatcher (talk) 17:55, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

I think it's great you're verifying the reviews by directly comparing it to the cited sources! It would be good if text-source integrity was as important in the scientific literature as here on Wikipedia. I've been watching the recent NIH seminars to try and make sure the reviews I cite are representative of the wider research community. I think the text is now more reflective of the 2019 views and review than the more recent one. Happy for the text to stay this way till the two ongoing N-is-big studies come out; those should give us more conclusive answers soon :).
I think we should leave it out, as it wasn't too important, there is a discrepancy between the review and the primary study and the primary study wasn't published in a great journal. I couldn't find your exact statement in source 44, but maybe that's me being blind. In the future, please do make sure the citation keeps matching the text on Wikipedia. If it contradicts the primary source cited, usually best to omit. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:25, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
You might want to take a look at that first paragraph in the Neurological section. It needs replaced by a good review, with more accurate and up to date info. sciencewatcher (talk) 21:47, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
That was certainly on my to-do list :). It's also a bit repetitive with other the third paragraph, which is more up-to-date, but partially based on a 2017 source, so not quite ideal per WP:MEDDATE. Plan to update the entire article and nominate it for GA around April-June. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 01:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Awesome, that's great to hear! sciencewatcher (talk) 04:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

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DYK for Melvin Ramsay edit

On 13 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Melvin Ramsay, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that physician Melvin Ramsay refuted the suggestion – partially based on the fact more women are affected – that myalgic encephalomyelitis is a form of mass hysteria? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Melvin Ramsay. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Melvin Ramsay), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Wish you feel well soon... edit

Long COVID is so scary. I couldn't imagine what's like to always feel fatigue and never recovers from it. I hope that you would have more energy soon. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for dropping by. It absolutely sucks yeah. I'm fortunately not always fatigued. My main symptom is post-exertional malaise, which means I need to pace myself and plan every little thing in detail to ensure I say within my energy envelope, and avoid migraines and fatigue. Recently dropped down to part-time, and also moved house; the new place is a bit smaller and much more efficient, so should be able to live a bit more :). —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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DYK for Carmen Scheibenbogen edit

On 14 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carmen Scheibenbogen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Carmen Scheibenbogen was awarded the German Cross of Merit for her work on ME/CFS at the suggestion of patients and relatives? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carmen Scheibenbogen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Carmen Scheibenbogen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Regarding your GA review and other medical article topics edit

Hello,

Thanks for your comments and the review of infectious mononucleosis.

Thinking more of the article, it has another big issue, which I am not sure if / how it can be resolved; While there are other causes mentioned, like CMV and some others loosely supported, the vast majority of the content and the sources are specific to the EBV infection. So it definitely cannot pass at this point and I shouldn't had nominated it. Still thanks for taking the time to review it and add these thoughts.

I think that, in medicine related content (one of the two I plan to focus on) I will try contributing to some other less structurally complex articles first before giving another shot to this one and trying to resolve the blocking issues (while probably still trying to do some smaller improvements/updates)

Thanks in any case! Konstantina07 (talk) 22:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Konstantina07. Starting with a simpler article can't hurt, no :). The criteria for a GA are that an article is broad. If some information on other causes is mentioned, but not complete or expanded upon, that's perfectly fine for a good article. Only when you go for a WP:featured article, should the text be comprehensive.
In terms of finding good WP:MEDRS-compliant sources, you can find links to PubMed on the talk page of the article you work on, automatically limiting the search to newer secondary sources (f.i. see this query for IM). If you make another few dozen edits, you also unlock access to WP:The Wikipedia Library. That may help you access more up-to-date reviews on medical topics. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

ANI edit

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Femke,
This ANI discussion is not about you but I mentioned your name so I thought I'd alert you. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:27, 7 March 2024 (UTC)Reply