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This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2019)

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The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Miniature book

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Previous selections: Vegetable soup • Organ (anatomy)


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Week2/assignment/rayray411

This is Ruonan liang, I am from China. Started MASY program in spring 2019. Really looking forward to be a wikipedian! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rayray411 (talkcontribs) 01:21, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Rayray411, Please remember to sign your replies with the four FULBERT (talk) 23:24, 14 September 2019 (UTC). How about replying to this and trying it out?
Here is my own example of this! FULBERT (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Rayray411 (talk) 22:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC) Do you mean this??

Yes, this is it Rayray411, though you have not yet joined the course for this (see the instructions on how to join) and have also not completed the trainings. Please do that and reply again here. --- FULBERT (talk) 18:06, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Week 2/ Introduce Yourself/ Jingw99

Hello everyone, this is Jingwen Li. This is my second semester here at the NYU MASY program. It's my first time editing wikipedia as well. Looking forward to learn all about wikipedia through this semester.Jingw99 (talk) 15:04, 14 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jingw99 (talkcontribs) 14:55, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Jingw99, Seems you did not sign your post. Please log back in and sign using the signature instructions I mentioned in the Week 2 assignment. I will reply to you again here when you do. —- FULBERT (talk) 23:34, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello everyone, this is Jingwen Li. This is my second semester here at the NYU MASY program. It's my first time editing wikipedia as well. Looking forward to learn all about wikipedia through this semester.Jingw99 (talk) 01:59, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Jingw99, Much better! Welcome!. --- FULBERT (talk) 18:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Week2/Introduce Yourself/tt1887

My name is Tian Tan. I live in New Jersey. I come from China. This is my second year in MASY program. I started the program from fall 2018, and I have taken eight classes already. My concentration is Database Technologies. Tt1887 (talk) 13:52, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Tt1887, Welcome to Wikipedia, and I hope you find this a useful experience! FULBERT (talk) 18:09, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Week 2 /Intro/ Sophie007007

Hello, Professor! This is Yilu(Sophie) from your RPM class. This is my second semester in NYU, and I would like to be Data analyst. Looking forward to working with you this semester. Hope that I could contribute to Wiki as much as possible. Nice to meet you.

Yilu Sophie007007 (talk) 21:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia Sophie007007. I look forward to your contributions across the semester. --- FULBERT (talk) 18:11, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Week2 / Introduce Yourself/ Cj1447

My name is Chenxiang Ji. This is my second semester in MASY program and I started the program from Spring 2019.My concentration is Database. Cj1447 (talk) 00:46, 3 October 2019 (UTC) Cj1447 Cj1447 (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cj1447 (talkcontribs) 03:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

You did not sign your entry. Please log on here and sign again using the insert signature instructions provided in the training and in my notes. --- FULBERT (talk) 18:11, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Pinging Cj1447 to reply and sign. --- FULBERT (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Cj1447 Cj1447 (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Week3/Share what you found and what you learned/tt1887

I think it is more complicated than I expected. You need to evaluate an article in many aspects to give an article a final judgment. Also, writing a article on Wikipedia is very hard. You really need to cover lots of aspects to tell people what you want to show. I can one hundred percent sure that there are no perfect Wikipedia articles. People always need suggestions from readers and keep improving their works. I think the sources are very important. For example, when I look at the article I read which is Machine Vision. Most of the references they used are from authoritative books and academic articles which I know immediately this is a reliable and professional article. However, if many references are coming from blogs and press releases, I will doubt whether the article content is true. Same for sources from companies, they usually bring bias to their sources and what they are saying usually cannot reflect reality. Plagiarism is stealing other's work or ideas without permission or notifications. Copyright is a law right of people to publish their works and prevent people to copy their works without any permission by the publisher. The good way to avoid plagiarism is to fully understand what you read and what you are going to write and combine what you read to your own ideas. Evaluate article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tt1887/Evaluate_an_Article Comment:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Machine_vision#New_thought_that_might_help_this_bruised-and-abused_article Through the process, I know from which aspects to evaluate articles and how to use good resources to help me write articles in Wikipedia. It is a very good experience. Tt1887 (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Tt1887, Nice summary, review, and initial thinking about this! --- FULBERT (talk) 17:22, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2019)

 
Animation illustrating the discovery history of satellite galaxies of the Milky Way over the last 100 years. The classical satellite galaxies are in blue (labeled with their names), SDSS-discoveries are in red, and more recent discoveries (mostly with DES) are in green.
Hello, FULBERT.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Satellite galaxy

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Previous selections: Miniature book • Vegetable soup


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Please comment on Talk:CESNUR

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Week 3/Evaluate Article/Ygplusplus

I think it's pretty clear for evaluating an article through the guildline which Wikipedia provided to us. However, I was a little nervous when I started to evaluate an article based on my thought. Evaluating an article is really helpful and technical for out future editing or to be a wikipedian. You should be on the neutral side and no bias. The link for my evaluation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ygplusplus/Evaluate_an_Article The link for the Talk page I offered a comment is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Multilingual_Education. It is a great experience for me to start to be a wikipedian. Wikipedian gives us the clears guideline for learning and direct the way of our thing. Ygplusplus (talk) 01:59, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Ygplusplus, Overall, nice thinking and comments about this article. FULBERT (talk) 20:57, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Week 3/Social Work/Boboandy

Thanks for the guild and I really learned a lot. It feels different when you read these articles with questions. In the past I just simply search and use all the information I get in WIKI and never thought it could be wrong and even getting better. I really love the questions ask about the claim of the article since all the articles in WIKI need to be neutral. For the Discussion question, since we need to use sources that are neutral claims, we could not use any blogs or company sites. Also for the copyright violation and plagiarism, I think the copyright violation is not legal but we could not say plagiarism is legal. It is not ethical. Here is the link of my evaluation of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Boboandy/Evaluate_an_Article the link of the talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Social_work#Thoughts_about_the_workBoboandy (talk) 20:34, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Boboandy, Nice overall critique of this article. Even I answered your post on the Talk page! FULBERT (talk) 21:04, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

week3/evaluation/irisnan1009

It is an interesting process to evaluate a Wiki page. When I was browsing Wiki page in the past, I always viewed them as a reader's perspective. Even though I knew that information provided by Wiki is not authoritative, I tend to believe what I read. After taking the training module, I understand that not every Wiki page is perfect. Also, I accidentally find this Wiki page I am evaluating. This page happens to be a good example of not every Wiki page is perfect. I talked about my viewpoint of how to revise it in talk page and also my evaluation. From this evaluation process, I learned that when I browse Wiki page in the future, I should be more skeptical and remember to check their source and also exam whether their opinions are biased. evaluation link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Irisnan1009/Evaluate_an_Article talk page link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trance_music#Festivals_list_is_poorly_sourced Irisnan1009 (talk) 21:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Irisnan1009, Nice overall approach to this article. Helpful points you raised. FULBERT (talk) 21:35, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Black Madonna of Częstochowa

This is NOT a Title of Mary; this is an icon. Someone ignorant added this category here. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:24, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2019)

Hello, FULBERT.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Aaron Fechter

Please be bold and help to improve this article!


Previous selections: Satellite galaxy • Miniature book


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Week 3/Article Evaluation/Jingw99

I think the evaluation guide question is really helpful when I was doing the evaluation. Theses question make me think over about the information provided in the article.For the discussion question, the reason why blog post and press release are consider poor source of information is because these posts are bias towards certain opinion which is not neutral. my evaluation link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jingw99/Evaluate_an_Article my talk page link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Arts_administration#Citation_Problems . During the evaluation process, I learned that the wikipedia page doesn't always include the correct and up to date sources. I need to be careful when looking up information to make sure the article is accurate.Jingw99 (talk) 02:33, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Jingw99, Good points you raised, all of which you should soon know enough about editing Wikipedia articles to make those changes you identified. FULBERT (talk) 15:09, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Week 3/Article Evaluation/Dragonroll

1. I found the questions for the evaluation framework quite helpful. It made me think about the article in a more critical way. Usually, I learn and accept the information provided on Wikipedia. I barely doubt the correctness and content, but now I will think while I am learning. 2. Blog posts and press releases are very biased. They represent the standpoints and benefits of different parties. A company's website is persuasive. It is hard to validate the information. Of course, the information is favorable to the interest of the company's stakeholders. Copyright violation is using the source without correct citation, whereas plagiarism is copying sentences without using your own words. To avoid plagiarism, it is always helpful to read as many as sources possible, make sure you understand what the topic is and then type your own words without looking at any article. 3. [[1]] 4. [[2]] 5. During the whole process, the most useful thing I have learned is learning with doubts. I should question every piece of information that is feeding me. The second thing that I have learned is the process of evaluating the article on Wikipedia. Dragonroll (talk) 02:24, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Dragonroll, The assignments you submitted on the two linked pages do not list you as the author. I wonder if perhaps you did them without being logged in? Please log in and reply and sign using the Wikipedia signature as explained in the training and as you did correctly here, and then reply to me here again and I will review it. FULBERT (talk) 17:41, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
FULBERT I add a signature for the comment of the article I chose. However, I am not able to add a signature for the evaluation. It shows that the feature is not supported. Is it because I clicked the link in the tutorial last week? While I was doing the tutorial, I found a clink to the evaluation framework, so I answered the questions there. Dragonroll (talk) 23:23, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Dragonroll, You did the article evaluation while you were not signed in, and as a result that cannot be linked to your page now as it was created with your IP address. OK this time, but please make sure you are logged on whenever you do any edits here on Wikipedia, otherwise the system cannot track you and give you the credit for your work. Ok for our purposes. FULBERT (talk) 17:55, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
FULBERT Thank you, I will make sure to log in next time. Dragonroll (talk) 01:13, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Dragonroll, Great, and nice indents in your reply here as well! All current. FULBERT (talk) 15:10, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

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Week3/Evaluation/WILL.I.AMMJ

I have been surprised that we are able to evaluate a topic and edit them based on my knowledge since I have learned the processes in this week tutorials. Before this, I have always used Wikipedia to obtain knowledge that I want to learn, and I basically trust all the information that are included in the articles. However, after the tutorial, I understand that not all the information are correct and we are able to correct them in an objective way. Since then, I think I will review the articles carefully and importantly be critical thinker. I evaluate a topic that is related LGBTQ+, because I found out this is a significant social issue that have been mentioned in the world frequently. Therefore, I created my own evaluation page and also evaluated an existing article. The links are attached. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WILL.I.AMMJ/Evaluate_an_Article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT. My evaluation or comment link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:LGBT. WILL.I.AMMJ (talk) 00:53, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

WILL.I.AMMJ, I saw your comment on the article Talk page, which I replied to, though on the page for your article review itself it only includes the article review template and none of your own work. Did you add it there or someplace else? Please either edit that page with your review or otherwise point me to where it is and I will review it. Please reply to this when you are done and I will review it. FULBERT (talk) 18:02, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Prof, sorry for misunderstanding. I actually added the link, which is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT. This is the article review page. Please let me know if I'm still wrong. Thank you Professor.WILL.I.AMMJ (talk) 04:38, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
WILL.I.AMMJ, I was asking for the link of your review. You presented it as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WILL.I.AMMJ/Evaluate_an_Article yet it only included the review template that was provided and not your responses to the questions it asked. Those responses are the ones I am asking to see. FULBERT (talk) 15:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Professor, I have revised my answers and the link is follow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WILL.I.AMMJ/Evaluate_an_Article#Evaluate_an_article. And the talk page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:LGBT. Thank youWILL.I.AMMJ (talk) 04:21, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

This Month in Education: September 2019

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Week 3/ Evaluate Article / nul90

The article I choose is healthy diet. It's interesting because every time I search something on google, wiki is always one of the options but I am always concerned about the data being accurate. Now that i have learned a couple of technics on how to evaluate an article it gives me a little confidence in reviewing these articles. I am evaluating article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_diet. I found the information very relevant to what the topic. All the material is neutral as it talks about a healthy diet and that there are multiple healthy diet that we can consider. I also clicked on the references and they back up the article based on the information given. The article is very informative in regards to the topic and it even goes further by describing different ways you can get professional help like having a nutrition guide you. Its important when you read these articles to understand that you are not looking for an opinion. In fact you are looking for real factual data and you want to do avoid expressing you opinion while you write on the talk section. Also when you write factual findings you want to make sure that you are not plagiarizing but instead paraphrase what your findings was and make sure that the proper citations are used so you can give credit to that individual Nul90 (talk) 02:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC) .

Nul90, Thanks for sharing these thoughts. Please share the link to your evaluation itself and also the link to the Talk page where you offered a comment, then you should be current. Please reply to me here (and make sure to use two :: before you begin so as to indent it and you will be all set. --- FULBERT (talk) 20:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nul90/Evaluate_an_Article and the talk page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Healthy_diet#Evaluating_article%2FNul90 Nul90 (talk) 02:00, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Nul90, Great critique. All in order now. --- FULBERT (talk) 22:20, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Week4/Choose possible topic/WILL.I.AMMJ

In week 4, I have learned the various ways to find an article to discuss about, especially these topics haven’t been developed very well. Choosing a topic is not easy because a lot of articles have been edited very well with strong evidence and content. Besides, the controversial topics are restrictive to discuss about, so that, for me, it is hard to find an appropriate topic to figure out the content gap. However, I was thinking to look for a topic, which has just developed in recent few years. Only in this way can I possibly find a content gap in those topics. Content gap is sort of lack of content to support the concepts. The task that I did is that I found out one of the approaches in machine learning has not been provided enough content. This approach is called unsupervised learning. In this topic, the author just listed the name of these approach, but has not explain these approaches. Therefore, I think this is the content gap. The link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsupervised_learning.WILL.I.AMMJ (talk) 14:44, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

WILL.I.AMMJ, Please finish Week 3 before I review this. FULBERT (talk) 22:22, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
I have revised my week3, please review my week4. Thank you Prof.WILL.I.AMMJ (talk) 04:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Week5/Citation/WILL.I.AMMJ

In week 5, I have learned how to add citation to an article. Citation is significantly necessary, because it substantiate and support the statement in a certain way. The only thing is to find a related source to be the source, so it requires me to read multiple sources to find suitable one. Also, according to the copyedit, I learned the way to edit the article, such as any grammar or summary of the articles. With respect of my citation, I provide one citation in the article about unsupervised learning, which is one of the techniques of machine learning. I found this article has not many sources to substantiate its content. Therefore, I added a citation on the second paragraph, starting with cluster analysis. The citation number is [2]. The link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsupervised_learningWILL.I.AMMJ (talk) 20:09, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

WILL.I.AMMJ, Ping me once you complete the earlier assignments and I will then review this and #4. FULBERT (talk) 22:23, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
I want to add the link of the difference that I made. Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unsupervised_learning&diff=prev&oldid=919082428. Thank you Prof.WILL.I.AMMJ (talk) 04:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Week 4/Choose possible topics/Ygplusplus

I think the conent gap means that users could not find information that they want when searching on the wikipedia. I think the main reasonn for content gap is that the page which created at the first time was forgotten. Users can use the site called "article finder" for searching the article which is content gap and editting later for improvement. I think it should be matter with people who writes wikipedia. Be unbiased means that you should think critically and globally. Wikipedia opens to all world, so the population for using wikipedia is huge. The link I find is content gap is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Math_55. The lesson I learnd is that there are a lot article that can be improved on wiki. It's is normal on wiki.Ygplusplus (talk) 21:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Ygplusplus, Great topic. All current. FULBERT (talk) 22:29, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Week 5/Citation and Copyediting/Dragonroll

1. The article I assigned to myself is "Women in engineering". I added the citation to support the statement about the stereotypical factor that causes the under-representation of the female workforce in the science field. 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_engineering&type=revision&diff=919456458&oldid=916489319 3. What I learned from copyediting is to pay attention to the article that I am reading from multiple perspectives. For example, I will focus more on grammar, logic, and credibility when I try to find a topic to learn about through Wikipedia. It is also important to pick a reliable source to cite in the article. However, it cannot be irrelevant, repetitive, or unnecessary to the topic. 4. What I learn in the whole process is how to pick and start editing an article wisely as a starter. I also learned how to cite a source in the article. Dragonroll (talk) 23:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Dragonroll, I cannot find evidence of your Week 4 assignment. Please reply here with a link to that one and then I will review this one. FULBERT (talk) 22:33, 5 October 2019 (UTC)