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Akhilesh Yadav page

Hello, I have edited the page Akhilesh Yadav and the article was reverted back right away, and I do not know the reason for that. I have followed all of Wikipedia's rules. I don't have conflict of interest, and I am being totally neutral in my writing. I also added references to almost every line in the article, so the information in this article is also correct. So I would like to know, why the article was reverted back? Thank you. Existima (talk) 02:03, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Article content is best disucssed at the article's talk page. To me the content you added read like puffery ("he is seen as a disciplined visionary", "humanitarian behavior and generosity", "His wit and love for music is seen in his remarks on social media platforms", "brought many young, educated professionals into his party", "He has distributed around 300 crores in 4 years for treatments and social welfare" - of his own or of the state's money? The latter is so much easier..., "working relentlessly", ...), and none of those claims cited sources. Whether they are correct seems debatable. I'm pretty sure I could write an equally unreferenced summary of the same basic facts that would put an entirely different spin on them. Huon (talk) 09:32, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful response. So based on that, what do you recommend now to get the article approved? Should I state sources for the claims that have no sources and then publish it? Or I can submit the new article to be reviewed by an editor? I appreciate the guidance from you. Thank you Existima (talk) 15:15, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to User:Existima/sandbox. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:57, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

For some of those claims you could add references - for example, surely newspapers or political magazines have reported on the distribution of those 300 crores, whatever form it took. Others are opinions, not facts, and would need to be attributed to someone expressing that opinion, with a reference - "John Fakename, writing for The Hindu, called Yadav a 'disciplined visionary'".

In general, it's probably better to do it the other way around: Look for sources that discuss Yadav first, and then summarize neutrally, without embellishment (and without picking and choosing only sources that say nice things!) what they report about him. Huon (talk) 21:07, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

I understand. Thank you very much. And after I add references and edit the article the way it should be, can I publish the article right away live? Or I should post it someplace else to get it reviewed first? Thank you. Existima (talk) 22:31, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

If you want others to review the changes, you can use the talk page to make a proposal. If nobody responds to such a proposal within a reasonable amount of time, say a week, or if other editors agree with your proposed changes you can add them to the article itself. Huon (talk) 00:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Great. Thank you for clarifying that. I still have one thing to clarify about. I got a message on my page, which is: "Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to User:Existima/sandbox." But I was using my sandbox to edit the article of Akhilesh Yadav before I submit it live. So I may not use my sandbox this way? And if I want to apply lots of edits to an article, and publish it later, where can I edit it? Thank you. Existima (talk) 02:26, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

You can use your sandbox to write drafts. Usually drafts are given a little more leeway than live articles, but even the sandbox is not the place for blatantly promotional content. And the version JamesBWatson commented on had all the problems I had pointed out several days earlier. Huon (talk) 01:30, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I understand. Concerning applying major edits to the article. I want to make a proposal on the article's talk page to get approval on the edits. So how can I post the edits on the talk page, since the edits are major? Thank you. Existima (talk) 10:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

@Existima: Here you go: Wikipedia:Simple COI request Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. The edits that I wish to apply to the page are multiple and large paragraphs. So can I just paste them on the article's talk page as they are, even if there is a lot of text and references? Thank you Existima (talk) 17:07, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

I'd advise you to break up the proposal into several parts if possible. Then each part can be discussed separately, and it may be easier to implement some parts while others are still being discussed. If that's not possible, then you can paste everything at once. Huon (talk) 19:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

@Huon: Hello, I made a proposal on the talk page of Akhilesh Yadav a week ago to make edits to the page. And in one of the previous messages in this conversation, you mentioned the following: "If nobody responds to such a proposal within a reasonable amount of time, say a week, or if other editors agree with your proposed changes you can add them to the article itself." So since this is the case, is it fine to apply the edits to the page? Thank you Existima (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2017 (UTC)