User talk:east718/Archive 17

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Lee Hasdell image

I just tagged Image:Lee_Japan_1-1-.jpg with {{di-no source}}, which I believe is the right tag for an image I suspect is neither taken by the uploader nor released under the given license (even though I couldn't find it elsewhere on the web). I noticed you have cropped and reuploaded it so I just wanted to let you know. Cheers, --Aktsu ^(t / c) 15:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I think that the image is plausibly self-made or created as a work for hire for the uploader, with them being clearly a promotional account and all - as such, I've removed the nsd tag. If you really still disagree, I guess you can bring it to WP:IFD or wherever else you feel is an appropriate forum. east718 // talk // email // 11:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you looked at his other image uploads? Lots of claimed PD/GFDL without the sources given for the images backing it up, which makes me a bit sceptical about this one too... --Aktsu ^(t / c) 12:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Tottenham Hotspur crest.png

Why was it deleted? Why didn't nobody post there was a problem in Talk:Tottenham Hotspur F.C.? Can you restore it? Govvy (talk) 17:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The image needs a fair use rationale; I've undeleted it so you can provide one. east718 // talk // email // 11:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:TheStairsBand.jpg

COuld you please undelete the image (removed back in March) so I may add the required rationalle please? Thank you. Sa cooke (talk) 10:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Please keep in mind that if the band still exists, you won't be able to use the image solely to illustrate them. east718 // talk // email // 11:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Unfortunately, due to my work commitments, I haven't been able to get back to the rationalle. In the meantime your hard work has been undone by someone else. Oh well, I'll try them. I apologise for not getting back to it sooner. Steve. 59.167.99.32 (talk) 08:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which did not succeed with 47 support, 21 oppose, and 1 neutral. I appreciate both the supports and the opposes. Thanks again and cheers! TN‑X-Man 19:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Range block didn't take

FYI, looks like your range blocks didn't take. Maybe you can't use years as expiration dates? —Wknight94 (talk) 12:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

east718 is moving, so thanks for catching and fixing it. MBisanz ^talk 12:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my goof, Wknight. east718 // talk // email // 19:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Why

Would you delete the talk page of an indef blocked user where the only edit was mine placing the indef block template. Not happy --Herby ^{talk thyme} 18:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I am guessing randomly that your blocking template placed the page in the category Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages. Every so many weeks an admin runs a deletion bot over all old temporary userpages of indef blocked users, so that is probably how east hit the page you had left. MBisanz ^talk 18:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Herby. I'm guessing you're talking about User talk:Sungate? I don't see how the page really provides utility to the project anymore... but if it's part a ring of spam accounts, or something that came under the jurisdiction of a crosswiki CU or whatever, please feel free to restore it. Just remember to remove the "Temporary Wikipedian userpages" bit, or some other admin will come along and delete it in a few days. :) east718 // talk // email // 19:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which succeeded with 71 support, 14 oppose, and 5 neutral. Thanks for your participation. I hope I serve you well!

--Smashville^BONK! 23:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Deleted talk page

Hi. I'm doing some research into indefinite blocks and unblock requests. Do you think you could make this user's talk page history available to me?

18:01, 24 August 2008 East718 (Talk | contribs) deleted "User talk:Varnooja" ‎ (Talk page of an indefinitely blocked user)

Thanks. Rabidfoxes (talk) 23:29, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done - sorry about the delay. east718 // talk // email // 20:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

66.244.203.251

is causing more problems. Needs to be permanently banned as he just continually vandalises pages after being allowed back on. --24.64.32.57 (talk) 21:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Reference for east: User has been blocked for 6 months. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 05:20, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Undeletion request for Bmi.gif

File:Bmi.gif (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

On August 23, I reverted a large amount of presumed copyvio from Broadcast Music Incorporated (diff). Because there were intermediate edits complicating things, I inadvertently orphaned Image:Bmi.gif, which was an irreplaceable fair use logo for BMI. Would it be possible to undelete this image so I can undo my error? Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 05:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done Jennavecia ^(Talk) 05:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Lara! east718 // talk // email // 20:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Tor node block collateral damage

Two weeks ago you blocked 76.26.143.163 as a Tor node. ChloeMS (talk · contribs) is a registered user with minimal yet innocuous edit history requesting she be allowed to edit from that. I declined to lift the autoblock but said I would run it by you. Daniel Case (talk) 04:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

east718 is both ill and moving, so he isn't on Wiki. You might consider giving the user IP-block-exempt rights if you believe they can be trusted to edit from tor. MBisanz ^talk 04:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I have instructed this user to formally request it first. They've made maybe five edits in the last couple of years, but none of them were problematic. Daniel Case (talk) 04:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a static, residential address that is no longer TOR. I've unblocked it and will leave ChloeMS a note. east718 // talk // email // 20:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Next time you're online can you help ol' Libsey out?

Spotted another template troll type edits coming from IP 90.201.141.112‎. It has been vrought to my attention that there was already a similar IP doing parrot edits to the new IP and that there first IP was blocked for 3 months. First IP was 90.199.99.31. Both are based out of Paris. This is a cut n dry block evasion. I know how much you care for these types of editors... do you think you could take time to intervene the next time you're around the Wik? A million thank yous to you for any help. Have a nice day!. The Real Libs-speak politely 17:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Waaaaay stale by now. Sorry, Libs. :( east718 // talk // email // 20:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Indef-blocked IP talk pages

Hello East718. As someone who automatically deletes pages in Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages without manually checking them, could I ask you to NOT delete talk pages or user pages of indefinitely blocked IP addresses.[1] Thanks. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 12:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk pages of indefed users are often deleted as general cleanup. They are only preserved in cases of confirmed sockpuppetry. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 05:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. IP addresses are not like users because they can change hands. Talk pages of indefinitely blocked IP addresses are kept for tracking purposes because they should generally not be indefinitely blocked and where they are blocked indefinitely the blocks should be reviewed periodically. See WP:IP and CAT:INDEFIPs. Like the sockpuppet templates, all the proxy templates etc contain the {{do not delete}} marker. Unfortunately some of the blocking templates - even if the block is not indefinite - sometimes place the IP pages into CAT:TEMP which is the wrong place for them. It would be trivial for a deletion bot to check if the page belongs to an IP before considering deletion. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 08:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, good point. The IP didn't click. I'm just thinking indefed users! Yea, you're right. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 12:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I wish somebody would modify all the sock templates so that they don't put pages into CAT:TEMP. Especially with IPs, things are often marked as suspected socks when they are in actuality confirmed socks. Those pages (in my opinion) should be kept indefinitely. EdJohnston (talk) 16:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

It would appear that Avraham added it here, why I don't know. MBisanz ^talk 16:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

zzuuzz, thanks for letting me know about this. I've made this change (and EdJohnston -- socks aren't deleted by me anyway). Fortunately, some kind sysop shut off the CAT:TEMP bot before it did too much damage. east718 // talk // email // 20:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Image deletion

I noticed that you deleted Image:Duke and gonzo.png yesterday for a lack of justification. While I can only assume you had the image-for-deletion tag on the image page for at least a week, I can't help but notice you failed to notify me, the uploader, that the image was being considered for deletion. Had I been alterted to the issue, I would have provided the proper justification and tags. Please try to tell me, and all other uploaders of images you plan to delete, of your intentions before you actually delete the image, from now on. VolatileChemical (talk) 06:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm really sorry that happened to you, that's a bit of a faux pax on the part of the person who nominated it for deletion. :( I've restored the image so you can provide a justification for its use. east718 // talk // email // 20:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, that's all I could have asked for. Uh, might I ask where the restored image is located? VolatileChemical (talk) 00:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, that's a bit embarrassing. The image should be back now. east718 // talk // email // 00:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Yo

Your talk page is a hot mess... oh, and you have been missed. Hope to see you around this week! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 07:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

this talkpage has nothing on what I look like when I roll out of bed. ;) east718 // talk // email // 20:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

A hawt mess? Jennavecia ^(Talk) 21:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

zomg ur back. o/ hai2u. GlassCobra 14:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Missed something?

You blocked me, and I don't find reason. Note that Avi's only source was Wiki, which didn't address his claim (and you can't use as a reference), and he states that I can't contribute because I don't read Hebrew! Please follow the new discussion in Circumcision. I'll take one issue at a time.TipPt (talk) 15:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

east is away right now. To hopefully answer your first question, see this and this for the reason for your block. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 05:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll study. Please participate in the circ discussion[2]TipPt (talk) 17:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC) So, having read I still don't understand. Avi's logic was clearly flawed (not scholarly). My text adds properly sourced info to the article. Seems like the accurate text should win.TipPt (talk) 17:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Tip, Yoreh Deah is a book, not a wikilink. Your comments here further underscore your misunderstandings and ignorance of Jewish Scripture, Law, and history. Please educate yourself before making further mistaken statements. Thanks. -- Avi (talk) 20:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Admin bots

Hello, I have recently had an encounter with an unapproved admin bot, and despite an extremely clear dictate by policy that these bots should be blocked, have been discouraged from doing so. Depending how this situation resolves, I will likely file an arbitration request to hopefully resolve this issue once and for all. You commented on Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Adminbots, stating that you ran an admin bot. To help get an idea of how widespread admin bots are, as well as get a uniform decision, I would like to ask: Do you still operate this bot, and does it operate when you are not present? Please reply on my talk page, thanks, Prodego ^talk 00:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I am working on toys that provide complete documentation, source code, and the ability for anybody (not just sysops or "trusted users," whomever they may be) to shut off any bot I run. Watch this space. east718 // talk // email // 20:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration

An Arbitration request has been made at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration regarding your running of an unapproved bot. Prodego ^talk 19:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Why was List of Fumblerules deleted?

Thanks, Dandv (talk) 18:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

The original page was at List of fumblerules and was deleted by John Reaves (talk · contribs) for violating copyright (specifically, it was a copy of this page). You should take it up with him if you have any more questions. east718 // talk // email // 20:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikis Take Manhattan

Wikis Take Manhattan Next: Saturday September 27

WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City. The event is based on last year's Wikipedia Takes Manhattan, and has evolved to include StreetsWiki this year as well.

LAST YEAR'S EVENT

• Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008 (a description of the results, and the uploading party)
• Commons:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Gallery (our cool gallery)

WINNINGS? Prizes include a dinner for three with Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales at Pure Food & Wine, gift certificates to Bicycle Habitiat and the LimeWire Store, and more!

WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, September 27th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration.

WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)!

REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand.

WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's West Village office. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:

• Wikis Take Manhattan page at The Open Planning Project

349 W. 12th St. #3

Between Greenwich & Washington Streets

By the 14th St./8th Ave. ACE/L stop

FOR UPDATES

Check out:

• Wikis Take Manhattan main website

This will have a posting if the event is delayed due to weather or other exigency.

Thanks,

Pharos

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 00:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

IRC question

If you get the chance, could you please comment here (01:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC) timestamp). Yours came to mind as someone who might have an idea what I'm talking about. Giggy (talk) 01:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Done, good looking out. east718 // talk // email // 04:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Question about deleteion of User page

> This page has been deleted. The deletion log > for the page is provided below for reference. > * 19:25, 21 December 2007 East718 (Talk | contribs) > deleted "User:Thomas.Hedden" ‎ (CSD R1: Redirect > to nonexistent page) I noticed that you deleted this page. You appear to be very active at deleting other people's work. Could you explain why you do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.225.199 (talk) 11:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The author of that page pointed ("redirected") it to a non-existent location. They're free to recreate it if they wish. east718 // talk // email // 04:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Image deletion

Please undelete Image:ΜTorrent icon.svg so I can use it, thanks.--Otterathome (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Gladly, I've restored it. east718 // talk // email // 17:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Sherman Bergman

Hi East, i know you're busy with admin duties but i need your advice whats the best thing to do about this Sherman Bergman article. Each time i stumble on it makes me angry because i know for a fact that his fighting record listed there, specially kickboxing, the names and events are complete fabrication.Marty Rockatansky (talk) 01:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, the sources we dug up at the last two AFDs were real - although I don't recognize their legitimacy, with both being closed early by non-admins and the second being closed because of purported "disruption" on your part. *rolls eyes* I still think we're dealing with an orchestrated effort from a fan club - the only real solution here is to be diligent, demand high-quality sourcing beyond Sherdog and the dirt sheets, and to remove peacocking wherever you find it. east718 // talk // email // 17:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

It's this one guy using different names. The only sources he dug up, was that Bergman is a real person - which was not the point - and that he had a few amateur boxing bouts in late 70s. Another reason why hes been able to pull this off is because there's hardly any kickboxing contributors here in wiki. It would be impossible to fake it on other more mainstream sports like baseball, football or even MMA. He has deleted some crazy stuff like inventing the "sling-shot punch" but still overall just seems to keep reediting the article whatever he feels like at any given time. the latest is the fight at Ronald McDonald House about a month ago. funny that he seams to have access to all these little details about Bergman but lists the date of birth "unavailable". if Bergman was an amateur in early 70s he's gotta be pushing sixties by now, and still fighting at Ronald McDonald House???? Its ridiculous.Marty Rockatansky (talk) 20:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it sourced? No? Then remove it with prejudice. :-) east718 // talk // email // 05:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

thx East. I'll see what i can do. Another favor, is there any way you can put a temporary protection on Badr Hari's page from unregistered users. I'll start working on the overall article but we're getting a lot of traffic specially after yesterday's event. thx.Marty Rockatansky (talk)

I don't really see the reason why. Semiprotection is usually used when an article is being vandalized by anonymous users? Can you point out a couple unconstructive edits? (Oh, and if you think that's high traffic, try managing de la Hoya or Liddell's articles when they fight. :)) east718 // talk // email // 22:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah i guess it's a minor compare to those two. I don't know how you can manage all this work . We would have a huge mess here without someone like you. A lot of this work goes unnoticed for many, i have a lot of respect for you thats for sure. Marty Rockatansky (talk) 23:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, Marty. That really means a lot, especially coming from an editor as conscientious as you. east718 // talk // email // 23:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

News

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_September_25#Image:Stpauli2003dergan.jpg Regards 78.49.56.219 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 10:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC).

remember when....

Hey East. Remember Mr Uncivil 3RR guy User:Be Black Hole Sun? Look like he is getting multiple personality syndrome. Look at Fell on Black Days (talk · contribs) and Superunknown (talk · contribs). Along with a series of Norwegian based IP sock this guy seems to be creating his own personal army of "named after Soundgarden song" accounts. Not sure of the motive there. But an army of socks can be used to sway consensus and also be used to circumvent blocks and also edit pages that are in a prot mode due to edit warring. Circumventing blocks with socks and edit warring and something that BBHS is awfully good at. Any thoughts? The Real Libs-speak politely 16:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Libs, I know I'm awesome but I can't peer into the pipes of the internet just yet :D This stuff you should be good enough for requesting a checkuser - if you're like me and can't figure out how to fill out the paperwork, I'm sure Rlevse (talk · contribs) or Nishkid64 (talk · contribs) will be able to help. Of paramount importance is listing the IPs you think are him, detailing abuse with diffs (consensus falsification counts), and mentioning that this guy's sockpuppeted abusively in the past, and evaded blocks recently. Good luck! east718 // talk // email // 17:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks East. I am just about to head out with my Cub Pack for our first camp-o-tha-season. I won't be back into civilisation until Monday. If I don't get eaten by a bear I will revisit and see if I can't re-juve my inner Wiki-paranoid-schizo enough to drum out a sock search. Have a nice day! The Real Libs-speak politely 17:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

The best way to avoid getting eaten by a bear is to not poke one. That bear looks like a mean mutha! :O east718 // talk // email // 17:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to barge in but i'm Bruker:Superunknown on norwegian wikipedia and User:Fell on Black Days on simple wikipedia. I don't know why but i'm logged here as Fell on Black Days and Superunknown, but when i forget to log out on simple and norwegian i'm on of those users here. I didn't mean for this problem to start any way but sorry for making problems and i'm not trying to start an edit war wikilibs. If you didn't get what i meant just ask me. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 15:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

That's an entirely reasonable explanation. If you don't want to be automatically logged in on other wikis, you can prevent it from happening in the future by asking a steward on Meta to delete your global accounts; see m:SR/SUL. east718 // talk // email // 15:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll do that. :) --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 17:17, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Tom Sayle

Hello, sir. Regarding this edit, I was wondering if I create some subpages with some pages I was planning on creating anyway. This is an IP edit, before you ask. Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales 17:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.33.167 (talk)

First, please stop editing with your IP. Second, you can just improve an article on your talkpage - just start a new section and paste whatever you're working on there. If you put your work in a subpage, the next reviewing administrator may not be able to find it. east718 // talk // email // 17:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello, sir. I have a problem. When I log in, I get the block message every time I try to edit my talk page. Could you review the work I've done, please? Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales 14:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.101.41 (talk)

Song samples

Do you know where I can find a source for the massive list of samples in Paid in Full (album)#Track listing. I can source everything in the article except the samples. Spellcast (talk) 04:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't able to find anything online... except for a mention of another book in this journal article; it says that Signifying Rappers: Rap and Race in the Urban Present by Costello and Wallace details the samples used in Paid in Full. The book's long out of print though, and even the New York Public Library doesn't carry it. It's a longshot, but it only costs five bucks on abebooks.com - it might be worth grabbing it. east718 // talk // email // 05:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

That book has the sheet music and samples for the Coldcut remix of "Paid in Full", but I don't think it lists the samples for all the songs. Thanks for the suggestion though. There's good sources which mention the samples of a few songs, but not the whole album. The most complete source I could find was this, but it doesn't seem to be an RS (eventhough the info is probably right). Spellcast (talk) 23:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (154/3/2). I appreciate the community's trust in me, and I will do my best to be sure it won't regret handing me the mop. I am honored by your trust and your support. Again, thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:39, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Vinny Feeney.jpg

Just noticed that this and a few other of my images have been deleted recently citing no source information.

Can you please explain this because, as the creator of the images I am sure I labelled them accordingly and I never got a warning to say that they might be deleted.--Vintagekits (talk) 11:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that, it looks like they were vandalized (by an IP in the same range as the one that just blanked your message to me too). I've restored three images of yours and will try to put them back where they belong. east718 // talk // email // 03:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Myst image

I know it seems like grave digging at this point, but I noticed you deleted Image:Narayan Age.jpg a long while back. If this file still exists in the realm of the deleted, would you be able to restore it so that it can be moved to the Commons? It is covered under {{Attribution-Ubisoft}}. Please let me know if you have any questions! — OranL (talk) 16:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Done, good luck with the article! east718 // talk // email // 03:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! — OranL (talk) 20:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring Image:Nexus-Interface.jpg. I left a message for you on my talk page. — OranL (talk) 04:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Heather Kuzmich

Hi, many moons ago you put this on my talk page:

Hi, Soarhead77! Unfortunately, using non-free images of living people is unacceptable except in special circumstances (see the non-free content policy for details). I know the policy sucks, but until somebody manages to create a free image of her, we just have to live without one

Well she emailed me about this! (We have some things in common!) Unfortunately she doesn't have anything... Soarhead77 (talk) 10:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Surely she must have at least one personal photo of herself? If you don't mind doing so, could you please forward your correspondence with her to info-enwikimedia.org? Maybe we can get a photo submission with enough gentle coaxing. east718 // talk // email // 02:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)