User talk:NewTestLeper79/Archive 16

Wembley Stadium matches

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I sent to anyone who seemed to have edited it as well, case anyone had a strong opinion. Apologies if it isn't of interest. - JVG (talk) 23:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Nosebleeds

Hi yes I will try and find out as I am sure there was an article about that very same topic of the highest league position in the 1977-78 season in the local newspaper a while back. If I recall correctly BFC were about 5th or 6th and we beat both Coventry and Blacbkurn Rovers by five goals and the late Billy Cartmell decided to sack Allan Brown as manager and so set in place that downward spiral that lasted 29 years. There is an online link too, which I saw last year some time where you can click on each week from that season and have the league table as it was on that date. That would definitely help but it also shows how rapid the descent was, from going for promotion to the old 1st Division and then to relegation on the final day of the season. With about two weeks to go we were still lower mid-table. I will let you know and hopefully with a source as soon as I have found out. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 23:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Verbandsliga Südbaden

I'm not quite sure what your question means, but I've gone and put a redirect on the Amateurliga Südbaden page. I havn't just copied the article, I made an attemprt to integrate the two as it would'f have made sense otherwise. I've actually done the same to the Nordbaden league a couple of days ago. I plan to merge all the Amateurliga articles to their Verbandsligas as they are essentially the same league and when I created them as separate articles, I made a mistake. Just drop me line and let me know if you find a mistake, I will try to rectify it.EA210269 (talk) 03:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Rafa

Stuck a semi-protection on for a fortnight. I've also added him to my watchlist. I didn't think the vandalism was too bad but sufficient to semi-protect for long enough for the anon ip's to get bored and do something else... all the best! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I usually let a bot worry about the padlocks! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

for the quick revert on my user page. Always appreciated. Xymmax (talk) 12:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool F.C. season 1946-47

Replied here.

Hmmm, then you referenced from the book below. But use inline citation so that other editors can understand that a particular information has come from the book. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Otolemur crassicaudatus

Hello. You're not the only one having problems with User:Otolemur crassicaudatus... I have just had a discussion with User:LarRan about him on my talk page. Regards, Tryde (talk) 19:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Arsenal v. Blackpool

I think it was a playoff final between the finalists of the Football League War Cup, as detailed on the page there and in this page. Some sources (e.g. Anton Rippon's Gas Masks for Goal Posts) call the halves of the competition the League South Cup and League North Cup respectively, though, so it might be have just been called the "League Cup" or "Football League Cup" - but that might be just shorthand. Might require further investigation to be honest but for now call it that. Qwghlm (talk) 00:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It was a play-off between the winners of the Football League Cup - South (Arsenal) and the Football League Cup - North (Blackpool). I'll see if I can dig up a reference. I've got Jack Rollin's "Soccer At War" in the loft which is great for answering these questions.--Goonerak (talk) 13:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Danny Griffin

Alrite mate. The only reason I removed it from Danny Griffin was because there is a side box on his page informing of date of birth. There isn't one on Jeff Spiers, but hey, no big deal. ;) Andygray110 (talk) 14:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Guardian Podcast members

I was surprised to see you remove the "See also"s which I had added to the entries for each of the members of The Guardian Podcast Football Weekly. The members form an ensemble, and as such each member deserves a mention in the individual entries. This system is used elsewhere. --TTKK (talk) 10:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

1956 FA Cup

Coincidentally I've ben reading up on that era lately with a view to aiming at FA for Bert Trautmann, though given my current low level of Wikipedia activity it could take a while. There's a bit on that match in Trautmann: The Biography. Apparently Blackpool scored after 10 seconds, the quickest goal Trautmann ever conceded and it was 1–1 when abandoned, with the replay finishing 2–1. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Could be worse, we once had a cup tie against Luton abandoned while 6–2 up with 20 minutes left - Denis Law scoring all six - and lost the replay 3–1. Oldelpaso (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Ribchester

I like what you've done with the Ribchester site and particularly the pictures. I love the one of the churchyard wall; a viewpoint I walk past everymorning but never see that way.

Cheers

Watcher328 (talk) 11:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposals of all House characters by User:Eusebeus

Hi, I noticed you created new sections on all the talk pages of the House characters that User:Eusebeus recently put a merge proposal on. I created a new section on the main House page to discuss this issue here: Talk:House (TV series)#Merge proposals of all House characters by User:Eusebeus. Please check out my comments there and it would be nice if you gave your opinion there as well. Hopefully we can solve this problem quickly. Thanks! LonelyMarble (talk) 13:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. - Dudesleeper / Talk 13:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

LU

Please check the talk page as to what should be cleaned up as i did a small recview about a week ago. Meanwhile, i am going to tag the various sections that need references and IMO it is most, but there are some which i think are okay. Simply south (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I have also just added some tags. Simply south (talk) 18:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikiquette

Hi. Just a gentle reminder to not bite the newcomers. User talk:Peacockpie was adding links in good faith, to a non-commercial and informative website, so calling them "serial spam additions" is not very accurate or friendly.

I know we get lots of real spam additions here, and that has to be guarded against, but many newcomers start out in the easiest way possible - by adding external links. (I started in 2005, by adding imdb templates to a handful of pages). So each new user/addition needs to be examined in context, and whilst assuming good faith. Thanks :) -- Quiddity (talk) 19:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

BFC

Hi yes sure I would be willing to help out.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 20:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

RC Strasbourg

Hullo, hullo,

I see that you has erased the "Notable former players" section in the above-mentioned article. Although I think I understand your concern, I do believe that a similar section exists for nearly football club. As I see you are a Strasbourg fan yourself, you certainly understand why Marc Keller is more notable in such team's history than...well, other players it would be mean, to say the least, to mention.

Anyway, I only copied the relevant section of the French article. You will note that players are deemed notable when they had a long/successful career in Strasbourg or in another team, or if they have been capped by their respective national team, and so forth. I have reverted the section accordingly but will be happy to read your feedback on my talk page. Cheers ! Mrbluesky (talk) 22:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello again,

I have reinstated the list and provided a short rationale (criteria or 100 matches/20 goals/selection with the national team). It looks at least acceptable to me, but we could turn it into a table the way you brilliantly did for those English teams. Cheers ! Mrbluesky (talk) 08:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Aggie Moffat

Hi Dudesleeper. As noted, the content about Ms Moffat was deleted through due process. It was deleted outright, not merged or redirected. It should also be noted that any notability she has stems from comments made to Mr Souness, not though being a tea-lady for St Johnstone, hence the existing mention of the incident in the Souness article. Please respect the decision of the WP community. Thanks, Deiz talk 10:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, I appreciate your dedication to full coverage of St Johnstone (my uncle is a die-hard, and my gran lives down the road in Auchterarder so I'm certainly not without love for the Saints), but given the clear outcome of the AfD and WP:BLP1E, I think the mention in the Souness article pretty much covers it. A redirect from Aggie Moffat to the relevant section of Souness - which should probably have happened after the AfD anyway - would be absolutely fine. Deiz talk 13:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Duran Duran page

Hi...what was the hidden message on the page? I haven't read all of it for ages! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.44.250 (talk) 19:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sarumio

No need to list at AIV, I just blocked him. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I would have thought rollback would have been of use to you should you require it. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I think you've made your point and he's blocked to boot. Can I politely request you leave his talk page alone just for now. TRM can handle whatever may come up. It would be a shame if a potentially useful contributor were provoked into earning himself a longer block or worse. I'm hoping he'll come back and put all his undoubted energies and talents into helping us improve the Project. --Dweller (talk) 14:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Ja, I've had my final say. I doubt he'll have learned his lesson, but I live in hope. - Dudesleeper / Talk 14:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Why?

Did you remove my comments on the Simon Cowell talk page? I'm putting them back - it was a valid question. 86.153.218.173 (talk) 19:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Infobox FC mass edits

Is there some discussion after Template_talk:Infobox_Football_club#InfoBox_Header_-_F.C._inclusion that I didn't see? Or did you just do this on your own intitiative? MickMacNee (talk) 03:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Found it at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Sarumio, questioned it there. MickMacNee (talk) 03:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bobby Thomson (footballer)

Hi, see you've edited this recently so thought I'd check. Would there be any objection to me moving Bobby Thomson (footballer) to Bobby Thomson (footballer born 1955), to distinguish him from all the others? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

FYI, I've moved him, edited those articles linking to him (there were only 2), notified the creator of the article as to what I've done, and redirected Bobby Thomson (footballer) to the Robert Thomson dab page. Not necessarily in that order. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

so I discovered when I went back to do it (honest, guv), cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

"international success"

1. between or among nations; involving two or more nations 2. of, relating to, or affecting two or more nations. Edito*Magica (talk) 11:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware dictionaries define phrases. What's your source? - Dudesleeper / Talk 16:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Well you learn something new everyday! The sources are dictionary.com and Merriam Webmaster online. "international" means TWO or more countries, hence i have reverted your edits. Happy tapping!Edito*Magica (talk) 18:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Mike Mills bass.jpg

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Misogyny

I beg to differ on this one. Even "slightly misogynistic" is a bit strong espicially as a lead-in. I guess as oppossed to going 'round and 'round on a young boy's reluctance to associate with girls, which is perfectly normal at age 8, 9, etc., my belief is the character of Beaver behaves innocently towards his female peers and treats women with respect. Kpasha57 (talk) 00:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Michael Stipe interview

I added the link to the WHYY interview because the interview is referenced on the "Michael Stipe" page. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Stipe#Mainstream_popularity>

The quote is from the interview from April 9, 2008. It is at 35 minutes 18 seconds into the interview.

Please undo the edit and link back to the interview. It is an important source for the quote earlier on the page.

I am not affiliated with NPR in any way. I am a fan. Chris0427 (talk) 00:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

That's fine, but as I stated, they aren't any more notable than the tons of other radio interviews. - Dudesleeper / Talk 23:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Unsigned

there...was...nothing...there...in...the....first....place —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.44.250 (talk • contribs)

Infobox + Sarumio etc

Firstly, you've got mail. Secondly, you took the words right out of my mouth. It's just a constant stream of attack, attack, attack. I think I'll just leave it alone now so he can shout his way to getting his mass edits sanctioned. Frankly (and I think we should all do this) we ought to do something constructive which makes Wikipedia a better place and just ignore these inconsequential fixations which cause compulsive behaviour. Let's get some more featured content in WP:FOOTBALL. Best, The Rambling Man (talk) 16:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Aye, I'm beginning to realise the issue is becoming a laughing stock and common sense has gone out the window, so I think it's time to move on. Credit to Mick, though, he seems to be mediating things admirably. - Dudesleeper / Talk 16:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, and I saw your earlier reversions, best move in my opinion. Mick's doing a good job, time to just let it go I think now. Take it easy, The Rambling Man (talk) 16:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for Input

Thanks for your comment at the House talk page regarding mediation. Could I ask you to weigh in on which form of mediation you prefer? Thanks. Eusebeus (talk) 02:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Re: Template:Blackpool F.C. seasons

I understand WP:CSD#G7 and I would generally be inclined to delete the template, however, it's used on quite a few pages, which begins to get into a trickier situation. Is there any particular reason it needs to be deleted? --MZMcBride (talk) 03:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

If you do it before, it'll avoid an ugly red link on the articles when the template is deleted. : - ) Then feel free to re-tag it or leave a note on my talk page and I'll delete it. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:Null Edits

Haha its ok, I'm clearing out Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and there were all those pages in the CSD category but weren't nominated for deletion at all, which probably means someone put a speedy delete tag on a template that was transcluded onto all the other pages. The speedy on the template was probably removed, but the pages stay in the CSD category for a very long time (something to do with the job queue) until there is an edit to the page, which will force the page to reset, removing the page from the CSD category. So I threw some null edits on those pages to clear them from the category (sadly we have had admins accidently delete pages in cases like this). So yeah, theres your explanation :-) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 03:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Haha no problem, its always good to question people!! Cheers. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 03:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Last Minute goals

Hi,

Apologies, you are correct on hyphenated last-minute goal, since it is defined in the article as not explicitly being in 'the' last minute. However, you've changed it to an - incorrect - chronological order - I assume moving only one example is a simple good faith mistake. There is no actual order to the article, and it is hard to determine a suitable order given certain goals are more notable than others due to the level and scope of the competition they were scored in. Once more notable examples are added, this may be changed. Thanks. Jw2034 (talk) 09:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Tidy up

Cheers for the tidy-up on Jeff Buckley. And sorry about the POV first try, i'm still pretty new, actually your gutting of the lead made me write a much better lead than originally was there i think, so thanks for that too! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 19:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Image talk:Ayre.jpg

Hi, Image fair use rationale is a veritable minefield but there must be a separate rationale for each page it is used in and the title of that page must be in the heading. See the examples at WP:FUG#Non-template. HTH. BlueValour (talk) 01:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Cockerham

Just a note to say thanks! Your edits added value to what I was trying to acheive! I have roots in the village and keep meaning to work on it as a project at some point down the line. Cheers, --Jza84 |  Talk  15:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool history

Hey Dudesleeper, I'll try to review the article properly tomorrow, but two things stand out immediately; you need a lead and you need to replace 99% of your hyphens (between years and scorelines) with en-dash, per WP:DASH. Boring, I know, but for GA/FA it's essential... More tomorrow. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Doesn't look like I'll be nominating any other articles for PR, if my use of hyphens is anything to go by. - Dudesleeper / Talk 00:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Hendry's middle name

Hi there. It is definitely Gordon. It is not normally used, especially in the professional game (in stark contrast to the moniker of Mark J. Williams, whose initial is required to differentiate him from another player), but I have seen it quoted as such on several occasions, including on a now defunct edition of Microsoft Encarta. If you think that I have been joking when I have added this, I have not. As a Scot yourself (I am of Lothian ancestry), I am sure that you will appreciate that no proud Scotsman would stoop to the level of vandalising Hendry's page: it would be like vandalising William Wallace's page. And my apologies for not logging in to make my amendments: my primary concern was to update the information on Hendry's maximums following Ronnie O'Sullivan's record-breaking 147, but I felt that this correction was also necessary. BartBassist (talk) 22:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

London Underground

Hi, you recently reverted an edit [[1]] that you considered to be vandalism. Looking at the edit that you reverted I believe that it was rather harsh. Whilst no reference was given for the edit, almost all of what was stated is actually quite true. Please can you expalin the basis on which you made your decision that this edit was vandalism. I might be inclined towards your reversion for other reasons, but not vandalism. If having reviewed this, and you agree, perhaps you could offer an apology to the editor concerned as he is a new editor and your reversion could be considered to infringe WP:BITE. Olana North (talk) 11:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied here.

Please can we keep the conversation on one page please. Reverting the edits of a new editor on one page because of a problem with an edit on a completely different page is not acceptable, and infringes WP:AGF. Your response has also confirmed that you have also infringed WP:BITE, as you did not explain your actions to the editor. I shall be talking to some other editors about your behaviour. Olana North (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied here.

I have raised this issue at the Village Pump, see here [2] Olana North (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I have also raised it on the UK Train page, see here [3] Olana North (talk) 18:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

While I think Olana North may be overreacting slightly, in making reports to all these places, I'm afraid I do agree with his original point. You should only describe an edit as vandalism if and only if it really is vandalism; this user's edit to Loughguile was probably a nonsense edit that could reasonably be described as vandalism, their edit to London Underground wasn't.

As I stated in the discussions at the Village Pump and Talk:London Underground, I have reviewed the edit in question [4] [5], and while it was probably a fairly trivial addition that I may have reverted myself, it was certainly not vandalism. (Adding "OMG I'm f***ing up wikipedia" or "jason smells hahahahaha" woould be vandalism: this isn't.) So I don't think you were wrong to revert it, but your edit summary describing it as vandalism probably was a breach of WP:AGF and WP:BITE. --RFBailey (talk) 20:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Noted. Apologies that you had to read something so banal. - Dudesleeper / Talk 20:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

It still is vandalism in my eyes; I just think it's becoming more elaborate than the excellent example you provided. - Dudesleeper / Talk 21:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)