Drmuji

List of people with epilepsy

Please do not remove content from Wikipedia, as you did to List of people with epilepsy. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Colin°^Talk 07:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. You can be sure I appreciate your concerns. Almost every religious group can find something of offence in that section of the list. The Jews, Christians, Catholics, Mormons and Seventh Day Adventists all have spiritual leaders that someone at some time has claimed to have had epileptic seizures rather than true religious visions. If you read the text at the start of the list and at the start of the section, you may detect a somewhat sceptical tone with regard to the value of such speculations.

However, Wikipedia is not censored. The statement that "Some researchers consider temporal lobe epilepsy to be a possible cause of his inspirational spells" is undoubtedly true regardless of whether you or I think it offensive or just complete bollocks. I have cited a source in a highly respected epilepsy journal. There are other sources I could have cited, for example, the book "Sword and Seizure: Muhammad's Epilepsy & Creation of Islam". I haven't read that book, however, and don't intend to. A Google search for "Muhammad Epilepsy" returns thousands of pages both for and against. The debate is definitely notable.

When writing for Wikipedia, sometimes editors have to include statements they don't personally believe. The neutral point of view is a core policy and means we may have to "write for the enemy" (i.e. the other side of the argument). I think/hope that anyone reading List of people with epilepsy will find a fairly balanced article that doesn't push one view over another.

If you still feel that the article need to be changed, I can suggest some forms of mediation - i.e. asking for another opinion from other editors. Colin°^Talk 14:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I have copied this discussion over to Talk:List of people with epilepsy and asked for comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam. Hope that is acceptable to you. Colin°^Talk 11:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Drmuji, again, Wikipedia is not censored. There are many things offensive to Muslims in wikipedia. See Criticism of Islam. Are you going to now say that all this should be deleted from wikipedia too? --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 19:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)