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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.E.K._(sports_club) add such link on mb for football

remove empty technical staff, also discussion template

in stadium text fix capacity to 65,000 as other users and pages say

and atk kit manufacturers (2019-20) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.184.17 (talk) 10:03, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

you seem best football expert after all! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.184.17 (talk) 09:56, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Don't worry, will be updated according to the reliable source. So keep patience and thanks for bringing A.E.K. (sports club) to my notice. This article can be taken as example for revamping MB's article. Drat8sub (talk) 06:26, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Just a reminder

Hello drat,this is just to ask you whether you are busy with current projects or not?Like you said are you currently free to create a fresh article for the Manjappada page by submitting the draft in a neutral point of view?Please kindly consider this if you have some time for the matter..Thankyou Shahoodu (talk) 05:43, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Shahoodu, I've been busy with real life, preoccupied with lot of things. Here too with some other project. But this one is in my to do list, I promised you, so don't worry, I will do it as soon as possible. Drat8sub (talk) 04:41, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

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Some problem with Nishu Kumars page

The editing by some anonymous user has caused a problem with Nishu Kumars page as the infobox is in wrong format.I hope somebody will fix that because I cant find what the problem is. Shahoodu (talk) 17:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

You just need to restore to the last best version. When you click on the previous version or on the time:date link in the article history you will get the option to restore. Click that with necessary edit summary. Drat8sub (talk) 03:07, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

premier futsal seasons

fix vandalism please, i reverted some in edits — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.92.151 (talk) 02:41, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

The necessary edits are kept. And don't get confused with Premier Futsal Championship and please don't bring its history in the AIFF championship article. That championship has nothing to do with AIFF Championship and this article is not about Futsal history. For futsal history in India an article can be created in future, not a feasible one now. Drat8sub (talk) 02:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Ah sorry, are you talking about the edits at Premier futsal seasons??? Drat8sub (talk) 02:55, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Good...btw if can please link mohun bagan footballing activity subpage with atkmb, update stadium capacity to 85,000, and other details if needed, that would end the issue — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.92.151 (talk) 15:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Ravish Kumar Brother Brajesh Pandey

FYI, we already had a very comprehensive discussion on the same and a consensus was reached that only the name of the brother without mentions of his links to INC and POSCO criminal proceedings can be added. Please refer to your very own edit summaries where you said the name of the brother can be mentioned in personal life without any related controversy or associations with political parties(which again has been duly reported in the media and provided in the talk page discussion). Please adhere to a constant stance or it will be really difficult to reach consensus. AnM2002 (talk) 04:46, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

AnM2002, I agree but you missed an important part that it should be added with a citation (reliable source) which is independent of controversy. That was not included in your edit. Drat8sub (talk) 04:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Drat8sub you need to understand that Brajesh Pandey is the brother of Ravish irrespective of the controversies surrounding the former. If tomorrow a controversy is linked to any other members of his family(those mentioned in the section) will it lead removal of their mention as well ? I fully agree that the controversy should not be linked as it is not related to Ravish himself but why can't I add "He has brother named Brajesh Pandey living in Bihar." What is the point of a personal life section when it doesn't even mention the family of the person ? Let's not dwell on the assumption that this has some sort of bias to it. We have to be accommodative not 'overtly ardent.' I hope you understand.AnM2002 (talk) 05:37, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

AnM2002, your hypothetical assumption argument comes under WP:CRYSTALBALL. Wikipedia is not about that. Second, his father and mother's names mention is much superior to his brother. Third, his brother's name will better be added if he is notable, which he is not. Fourth, mention of he has a brother only be added if RS is there which is independent of those controversies (wikipedia works on citation). Finally, in personal life he has any relation with his brother is not established, same no such RS is there. Sorry, at present scenerio, it can't be added if in future his brother become notable public figure, we can add a line. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 07:22, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

 DoneAnM2002 (talk) 07:29, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

eb,mb

first pls fix this under mb-stadiums (85,000):

"Salt Lake Stadium or Vivekananda Yuva Bharati Krirangan is a multipurpose stadium in Bidhannagar, Kolkata, West Bengal, with a current capacity of 68,000."

and, on i league page move "quess" from eb name. also they are out of 2020-21 season teams, (decide all back or out till confirmed) due to this:

www.indiatvnews.com/amp/sports/football-east-bengal-must-declare-ownership-change-in-10-days-or-face-i-league-exit-634207 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.26.219 (talk) 23:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

No, ISL website says 85,000. 2020-21 article does not have East Bengal mentioned in it and "i league page move "quess" from eb name"- I don't get this. Drat8sub (talk) 23:29, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

its done so have to mention few more things as locked pages-lazy users:

on mb page president middle name needs capital letter;

on same page - history - atk mb - end of first section needs atkmb linking

on i league page: east bengal in club list, but on eb page - user blocked for adding it... should be moved from both until isl confirmation

lastly, if can copy multisports table and link mb page, as its suggested on discussion page (i gae link of aek fc example). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.187.10 (talk) 02:05, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

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❯❯❯   S A H A 12:45, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

mb

please link football infobox title - ATK Mohun Bagan

No need, the page will be merged to MB's article. Drat8sub (talk) 18:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

and it was mb not atkmb who won i league, for new named team all starts from 2020 formally — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.187.10 (talk) 16:38, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey listen, I work here on almost 1500 articles, if you don't tell which article and which section you are talking about, it's difficult for me to understand. Drat8sub (talk) 18:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

anyway wont be merged as already reverted before so will find some user to correct details. all say talk over so act that way — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.8.54 (talk) 19:36, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

again: atkmb didnt win i league (or add on both pages: i league 2019, 1st of 11 (champions) (as mohun bagan ac)), also habas has to be named "head coach", even club name is wrong (FC, not F.C.) Can you copy atkmb data correctly in that small mb infobox at least 🙏🙏🙏 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.8.54 (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

About Drafting Manjappada Kerala Blasters Fans in a Neutral way

hello Drat8sub, I hope you are working on the same and is their any help tha i can do? Iamfarzan (talk) 05:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Mohun Bagan A.C.

ok, but dont revert everything. ❯❯❯   S A H A 10:57, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

you removed the last league history that club played. Added Swapan Sadan Bose, not an owner. written "as Mohun Bagan" and "as ATK Mohun Bagan" not necessary as we are not talking about other than Mohun Bagan. Drat8sub (talk) 11:13, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

tutu bose has 0.01% shares. but since this is a club merger, its different. technically its not the same as mbfc. so date is important. also, it needs to be mention with which name MB played previous competitions. atkmb didn't win i-league, thus removed that ❯❯❯   S A H A 11:16, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Infobox should be summarised version. For details the article is there where the section is already created. However, about bose, it just gone out of my mind that he had a 0.01%. Restoring his name again. Drat8sub (talk) 11:24, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Secondly, the infobox is about the football team representing Mohun Bagan Athletic Club. It does not matter what is the name, records are kept for the football team representing Mohun Bagan AC. Day before yesterday it was United Mohun Bagan, Yesterday it was Mohun Bagan, Today its ATK MB, tomorow may be Mohun bagan again...at the end of the day, all of these are representing Mohun Bagan. Drat8sub (talk) 11:33, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

but this is a separate infobox for the merged football entity. see mancity, its mentioned their previous name and date. similarly, atkmb date should be mentioned. ❯❯❯   S A H A 11:30, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Hmm good point, let me see, how other articles are structured. Drat8sub (talk) 11:36, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

if the name is changed, then it can be edited. but we have to see the resent. atkmb team didnt play i-league. atkmb represents mb, but not same as mbfc. ❯❯❯   S A H A 11:37, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

McDowell's MB is not same as MBFC, that does not mean we will keep McDowell's history. Read my above comment. The infobox is about the football team represents Mohun Bagan. Not new entity, a new entity can be formed tomorrow, but it doe snot mean you will change history. Drat8sub (talk) 11:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

but that was just a sponsor. mcdowell was title sponsor too, that's why their name was before MB. this is a merger. atk is not sponsor. atkmb is the full name of the club. its not changing history its mentioning the name it played with, since both names are different ❯❯❯   S A H A 11:49, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

I understand but that need not to be mentioned against the league. I am changing the infobox little bit for better clarification. Wait. Drat8sub (talk) 11:53, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

hmm. ❯❯❯   S A H A 11:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

also, add the date of establishment ❯❯❯   S A H A 12:01, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Quickly tell me here the exact date of name change from Sporting club to athletic club, if you know. Drat8sub (talk) 12:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

In the second year of inception, the club changed its name to Mohun Bagan Athletic Club following the suggestion put forward by the revered professor of Grammatology in Presidency College Prof. F.J. Rhow. Formerly it was known as already we have mentioned as Mohun Bagan Sporting club. ❯❯❯   S A H A 12:19, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

also change it to 1st June. since 1st June was the official date. just the press release happened on 10th July ❯❯❯   S A H A 12:22, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Yup got it there only. Ya correct changed it 1st july.

Find the exact date of McDowell's MB. I'm searching too. If you find tell me. Drat8sub (talk) 12:31, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

No need, got it. Drat8sub (talk) 12:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

mc dowell mb not need. they were title sponsors. club name wasn't changed ❯❯❯   S A H A 12:49, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Ofcorse name of entity was changed. It was "United Mohun Bagan Football Team Private Limited". Drat8sub (talk) 12:52, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

❯❯❯   S A H A 12:56, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

About Drafting Manjappada Kerala Blasters Fans in a Neutral way

hello Drat8sub, I hope you are working on the same and is their any help tha i can do? Iamfarzan (talk) 03:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I will let you know. Drat8sub (talk) 09:22, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Right Changes not allowed by you

Hi there. I hope you are doing well. I just wanted to update the nationality of Sunil Chettri as it's written wrong on Wikipedia. Let me make it clear being a Nepalese Citizen he/she can work in government jobs in India. Mr Sunil Chettri himself has said he is a Nepali the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSW0-_asu6k he says it at the end of the video in Nepali where the reporter asks in Nepali he replies "Hajur ma Nepali ho" meaning a formal YES in Nepali and saying I am Nepali. Please do allow my changes as the public should know the truth. His parents are Nepali, his family is Nepali and he is a proud Nepali. His father was in the Gorkha Rifles which is a Nepalese Regiment in Indian Army so he is Nepali please do allow the changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RealInfo2Evry1 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Addressed at your talk page. Drat8sub (talk) 09:17, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

It was aa per the advice of a admin

Drat 8,according to Anguswoof he said about adding the contents in the main article and claim for a new page in future in the articles talk page..So I did that..Sorry if it is a mistake Shahoodu (talk) 17:42, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I hope you understand the reason..Since the contents are already there I hope you can create the new draft by making sufficient changes.. Kindly eaiting for your response Shahoodu (talk) 17:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Shahoodu, that's why I said, don't you have patience? How many more people you have asked the same, flagging the things everywhere? When I said I will create the draft and if I feel it can be directly created, I will do that, then why are you knocking every doors????? Drat8sub (talk) 17:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

If you really want to help and want to see the page created, then you need to stop bringing issues everywhere, which will be no help instead there has been lot of violation when you've created the article. As I said I'll take this project, then I will and it will be created before ISL season, don't worry. Drat8sub (talk) 17:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Drat 8 dont take it in that way,Since its been a month I misunderstood that you were slowly rejecting this topic..Sorry for that..I recently found that the draft of manjappadas page was protected as admin only.so I thought it cannot be created forever..Please dont misundertood me..I just did that because I lost patience Please kindly try to view from my point of view also.I hope you will resolve this problem ASAP.

THANKYOU Shahoodu (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I think I've informed you that I had been pre occupied with some other projects. And so it will take few more days to finish than I will start working on it. Drat8sub (talk) 18:00, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Didnt ask him to create

Drat 8 I just asked Arnab what is the problem and can he help to expalin that..Please dont take it in a different way Shahoodu (talk) 04:06, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Ya I got that, I asked to confirm, as someone else if parallely create the article it will surely create huge problem with the existing one and permanently be not allowed to create it any more. Drat8sub (talk) 05:02, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

So is there any chance remaining so that it can be created? Shahoodu (talk) 05:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes there is. If it follows guidelines it will be created. And you no need to remind me or anyone of it again and again. With time I will work on it. Ok. And I want to write a quote for you to redefine yourself, "Patience is power. Patience is not an absence of action; rather it is timing it waits on the right time to act, for the right principles and in the right way." Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 05:45, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

First of all I apologise for the chaos I caused.I swear to you the 3rd draft has nothing to do with me.I actually saw it only yesterday.It was only yesterday I lost patience due to the the fact that protection was given to the draft by admins.Just more thing to ask you.Like you said I can be patient..I just wanna know whether there is anything that I must do from my part.Please dont mind anything else,its just due to anxiety,Since its been already a month ,can you say an approximate time for this procedure to complete.I hope it is not a difficult procedure.I think the source is already there in KBFCs editing history and you need to restructure in a neutral point.Also I am confident that it contains RS that gives it sigcov.Please go through the links I think that makes it easy for you.And just for the relief can you please tell me an approximate time required for the process or any part I need to do.Like if you face some diffifulties there please kindly let me know .Thank youShahoodu (talk) 06:12, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

its just due to anxiety and for my relief. See I am trying to be as kind and calm as possible with you, but these kind of statement is not acceptable. You must remember the guidelines that I have once brought to your notice, one of them was also how to use talk page. Your previous comment here was not acceptable in any way and already picked by admins. If you had read those guidelines you would have known we are not employees of anyone, not even wikipedia, we are just bunch of volunteers doing edit for fun and passion and love of wikipedia and free knowledge. As you are passionate about Manjapadda we are also passionate about wikipedia so we try to abide by its policies and guidelines. I don't understand why after all these, you are not going through guidelines. This is the mistake that new users do, and see the condition, a simple article could have been created but your persistence of failing to understand wikipedia guidelines led all to this point. When I've clearly mentioned you "I will let you know", why there is a need to ask again. I will let you know when I will need help. And surely I'll need your help while deciphering the Malayalam newspaper. So I'll let you know, as I said no need to remind and neither you no need to worry about it. When I joined wikipedia I thought of making every India football articles the best article possible, but is it a reality, no, a long way to go and need patience and time. World is not ending here mate, even if I fail to create the article. Watch a good movie and or watch an old Kerala Blaster match. When time comes you will be notified. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 06:34, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok ok I understood.My main aim for starting wikipedia was to create some quality articlea for current Indian footballers and legends.But somehow I got into mess. I will stop try to stop such mistakes again..Thank you for the advice..I am stoppi g here and a bit thanks to you Shahoodu (talk) 06:49, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Your edits

Hi,Thank you for your recent edits. They were good. Keep it up.― ISL fan|✉   08:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Don't revert!

If you are a veteran. Correct only my mistakes. Don't revert. You're not the only one contributing.

11:34, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

BRICK93, I've asked you to use article talk page if you have any issue. And you mistakes were corrected only. Drat8sub (talk) 11:37, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

And sign your comment everytime you comment using four tildes (~). Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 11:39, 30 July 2020 (UTC)