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My article on Pinxton Castle is live now, just made my deadline
I wanted to finish this - at least to the point of moving it to article space, by the time I started my chemo. I've had a lot of help see the talk page), and today with some great help in the writing from User:KJP1 and some proofreading from User:Tryptofish I was able to make it live. It's nearby and I managed to go see it again today. It's not really a castle, and is covered with trees and bushes and a lot and ditches and humps making it hard to navigate unless you find the right way in! I need to add a gallery, maybe some of my photos. Doug Weller talk 18:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Glad to help, and I think it's a fine article. Do you have any interest in taking it to WP:DYK? --Tryptofish (talk) 22:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish Thanks for the suggestion. It would be nice. I've never had an article there. But at the moment I can't think of a hook. Doug Weller talk 06:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- How about, "Did you know ... that Pinxton Castle had a moat inside its outer wall?" It has been many years since I took an article to DYK, but I'm willing to help with this, if that is OK with you. Donald Albury 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful work...... I was not aware of this place I thought it was somewhere completely different. Thank you for educating me. Moxy🍁 16:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pleased you like it. It's something I've been meaning to do for years and, well, it was time to do it. I've got some good photos I took in April[1] that I want to add and someone has suggested using the metadata to help identify what they are. Doug Weller talk 16:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury That would be great. I took it there yesterday.Template talk:Did you know Doug Weller talk 16:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I see you don't need to review any other nominations. I thought I could help with that, but I had forgotten that quid pro reviews aren't required for the first five nominations from an editor. Now I'm waiting to see it appear. Donald Albury 17:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury That may be quite a while given the amount waiting. Thanks for offering, much appreciated. Doug Weller talk 17:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do hope to be around a bit longer (I will be 81 in three weeks).:) Donald Albury 17:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury 82 at the end of October and hopefully recovered from the chemo I just started. Doug Weller talk 17:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP can certainly benefit from your continued presence. Donald Albury 17:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- And yours! Doug Weller talk 18:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see that the DYK passed with flying colors! (Or, should I say, colours?) That was fast! Congratulations! --Tryptofish (talk) 16:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish Thanks. You've been a great help and support. Yes, much faster than I expected! Doug Weller talk 16:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish I can't see it yet. Doug Weller talk 17:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- You won't be able to see it yet, on the Main Page. Here's how that works. The reviewer has passed the nomination, which you can see at Template:Did you know nominations/Pinxton Castle. (It's important to watchlist that template page, because other editors might still want to make changes in the hook. I'm watching it too, by the way.) Next, an admin will promote it, and close the discussion. After that, it gets moved to a "prep" area, where changes can still happen. It will probably sit there for a few days. After that, it gets moved to a "queue", where it might still get changed. (All of that shows up when you watchlist it.) When that queue's turn comes up to be transcluded onto the Main Page, that's when it appears there. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish Thsnkd.I thought it wss complicated. It’s on one of my watchlist but I’ll set up a separate one for it. Doug Weller talk 17:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- My pleasure. I just realized I said something that I should make clearer. You'll see on your watchlist when it goes to the prep area. After that, you should watchlist the prep area for when it goes to the queue. Then you can un-watch the prep and watch the queue until it goes to the Main page. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish Thanks. My only involvement in DYK was years ago when a fringe editor attempted to get a highly misleading hook into their DYK. Doug Weller talk 19:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- My pleasure. I just realized I said something that I should make clearer. You'll see on your watchlist when it goes to the prep area. After that, you should watchlist the prep area for when it goes to the queue. Then you can un-watch the prep and watch the queue until it goes to the Main page. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish Thsnkd.I thought it wss complicated. It’s on one of my watchlist but I’ll set up a separate one for it. Doug Weller talk 17:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- You won't be able to see it yet, on the Main Page. Here's how that works. The reviewer has passed the nomination, which you can see at Template:Did you know nominations/Pinxton Castle. (It's important to watchlist that template page, because other editors might still want to make changes in the hook. I'm watching it too, by the way.) Next, an admin will promote it, and close the discussion. After that, it gets moved to a "prep" area, where changes can still happen. It will probably sit there for a few days. After that, it gets moved to a "queue", where it might still get changed. (All of that shows up when you watchlist it.) When that queue's turn comes up to be transcluded onto the Main Page, that's when it appears there. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see that the DYK passed with flying colors! (Or, should I say, colours?) That was fast! Congratulations! --Tryptofish (talk) 16:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- And yours! Doug Weller talk 18:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP can certainly benefit from your continued presence. Donald Albury 17:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury 82 at the end of October and hopefully recovered from the chemo I just started. Doug Weller talk 17:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do hope to be around a bit longer (I will be 81 in three weeks).:) Donald Albury 17:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury That may be quite a while given the amount waiting. Thanks for offering, much appreciated. Doug Weller talk 17:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I see you don't need to review any other nominations. I thought I could help with that, but I had forgotten that quid pro reviews aren't required for the first five nominations from an editor. Now I'm waiting to see it appear. Donald Albury 17:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful work...... I was not aware of this place I thought it was somewhere completely different. Thank you for educating me. Moxy🍁 16:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- How about, "Did you know ... that Pinxton Castle had a moat inside its outer wall?" It has been many years since I took an article to DYK, but I'm willing to help with this, if that is OK with you. Donald Albury 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish Thanks for the suggestion. It would be nice. I've never had an article there. But at the moment I can't think of a hook. Doug Weller talk 06:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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This guy [2] is doing it again, and his contribs suggest an indef is now in order. EEng 18:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) All set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish Thanks. Doug Weller talk 19:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Glad to help. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish Thanks. Doug Weller talk 19:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm part of part of couple of months long going dispute and preparation for RfC at Jinn, (starting around here). At the suggestion of Bookku (here), I was wondering if you could take a look at this post by VenusFeuerFalle and see if you find it in breach of WP:DR spirit of WP:AGF as Bookku (our informal dispute facilitator) and myself do. Example:
I am willing to give the involved users one last chance, to make one clear suggestion, I want to respond one last time. Then we can go step by step over to the other ones. If it fails, I will not reply to that anymore, and then either the edits meet the Wiki-Criteria or they don't. If they do not meet them, they will be reverted, no matter of you understand the reason or not. Because, I just feel my time being wasted. If the users again derail the discussions, I will report Eagle and let an admin check on all involved users for canvassing, harrassment, and potential sockpuppetry.
Many thanks if you can. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 01:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- It certainly looks like it is. That's all I can say and I'm not getting involved, I'm writer's block at an article I'm writing and need to break out before chemo debilitates. me. Doug Weller talk 07:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- What's the article? Anything we can help with? – Joe (talk) 12:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Joe Roe I'm not sure, it's User:Doug Weller/Pinxton Castle and I finally got over my writer's block long enough yesterday to start adding sources material. I'll do some more in the next hour I hope but things like the plea below keep getting in my way! Doug Weller talk 12:48, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah well, I can at least see if I can do something about the distractions (a good distraction from the thing I've got writer's block on!) – Joe (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not interested? --Louis P. Boog (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah well, I can at least see if I can do something about the distractions (a good distraction from the thing I've got writer's block on!) – Joe (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Joe Roe I'm not sure, it's User:Doug Weller/Pinxton Castle and I finally got over my writer's block long enough yesterday to start adding sources material. I'll do some more in the next hour I hope but things like the plea below keep getting in my way! Doug Weller talk 12:48, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- What's the article? Anything we can help with? – Joe (talk) 12:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- For record and info, I wish to keep this discussion updated soon before it gets archived to note some likely misrepresentation about this discussion. Pl. excuse me for inconvenience if any Bookku (talk) 10:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Bookku No problem but my new chemo is making things difficult for me, as is the heat. Sorry I can't help. Doug Weller talk 12:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- No I am not looking for specific help at this point of time as already aware you are busy somewhere else, and we can seek help from other admins and appropriate forum if as and when needed.
- But unfortunately clear confusion of LPB about Joe's communication above seem to have been used to misrepresent LPB by VFF more than once. I propose to put up couple of paragraphs for record with collapse template. Purpose is to make concerned user VFF realize its not a good practice and such practices can be deconstructed. Bookku (talk) 13:04, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Bookku No problem but my new chemo is making things difficult for me, as is the heat. Sorry I can't help. Doug Weller talk 12:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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For dispute resolution at the article Jinn, as discussion facilitator I put in adequate effort to keep discussion focused on content, still in heat of moment two editors Eagle107 and VenusFeuerFalle (VFF) engaged in edit war - also some micro aggression- subsequently article was admin protected WP:PREFER, talk page discussion came back to track, most RfC inputs would have made VenusFeuerFalle happy, but after joining from break, probably not forgiving/ forgetting earlier state of disagreement with Eagle107, VenusFeuerFalle posted uncalled for emotional response against Eagle107 at the article talk page, instead of sorting out at user talk and ANI, by the way underlying issue was any way getting resolved through RfC. Since June 2 Eagle107 is on edit break. Since VFF's emotional wall of text would be distracting from further RfCs planned by LPB with help of WP:DRN moderator and Talk:RfC, so I suggested Louis P. Boog (LPB) to get VFF post reviewed and if possible collapsed from admin since Admin can be approached per WP:DR (helps avoid escalation to ANI), to follow neutrality even in approaching Admin I suggested LPB to find last active admin from WP:ANI. But since taking that course first time LPB got confused by ending up non-admin last ANI participant, then approached Doug Weller here, but DW recused being busy in some 'article'. User:Joe Roe's reply mentioned word 'article' but which article, Jinn or the article Doug Weller working on? not being clear LPB approached User Talk:Joe Roe. It's all good faith confusion. VFF picked up these approaches misrepresenting (or gaffe?) as WP:CANVASS at 1) WP:ANI that too which was report against Eagle107 not LPB 2) Talk:Jinn The apt adage "Hanlon's razor says: "Do not attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by confusion." Not expecting any action as of today, but this is just for information record. Bookku (talk) 08:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC) |
DYK for Pinxton Castle
On 16 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pinxton Castle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the moat around Pinxton Castle was inside the perimeter walls, rather than outside? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pinxton Castle. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pinxton Castle), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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