Donald145145

Luv Is Rage 2

Stop restoring uncredited producers in the article without explaining why, you keep adding these producers after Maintaining have explained that Maaly Raw, Michael Piroli and Ike Beatz didn't confirmed their credits on those tracks, but you keep adding them anyway. If you want to talk about it, take it to the article's talk page first, instead of restoring your edits without explaining. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 00:19, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey so piroli and Ike did confirm. Piroli on Instagram and Ike on genius. I can send links if need be

Genius is not an reliable source for Wikipedia, we don't get information from there because the website is mostly user-generated, so we don't trust that website (WP:ALBUMAVOID). If Michael Piroli and Ike Beatz did confirm their credits on the track on Instagram, I will accept it. Can you show me the links? TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 16:39, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Yeah here’s one: https://instagram.com/p/BYOLvjoj5UgrnYI_GzvlcYq4suSOtiUG9LITeo0/

Thanks, that's helped to confirm that Michael Piroli did indeed co-produced "Sauce It Up". TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 18:38, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey so although they aren’t credited on tidal, tidal isn’t always completely reliable when you look at songs like tunnel vision, or as you said humble, so i would go with what the press is saying and leave them as credited

No, it don't work that way. Just because they were credited on media outlets doesn't mean it's official by the album's label, if they appeared on the album's digital or CD booklet, that's make them credited, if they not, it make them uncredited. They are uncredited producers, they are not credited on other versions of the album. Leave it as it is, what are you doing is edit warring, stop restoring your edits until we settle this. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 21:29, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Donald145145, the producers who aren't credited in the first place, will be credited as uncredited producers. It just prevents confusion. Maintaining (talk) 04:17, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

But there isn’t any confusion. Take “Unforgettable” for example. 1Mind is never formally credited by the label, but since all media outlets clearly credit them as the producers, they are thus “credited.” Uncredited is an unfair term. The thing is, I think that additional producer definitely draws that distinction, it means they are simply aggregated to the production of the song, not necessarily formally credited, so I think it is fair to restore this as additional producer

The thing is, miscredited and uncredited are two different things. Miscredited is when someone who is a contributor, but gets their credit(s) listed as someone else. Uncredited is someone who was a contributor to the track, but left out of the album's credits. I was the one who corrected that credit. The credit was given to Mike WiLL Made-It, but he didn't contribute to the track. McCulloch Reid Sutphin is credited on the track, who is 1/3 of the production duo, therefore they were credited in the first place. They also had a deconstructed video from Genius, showing how the track came to be. [1]Maintaining (talk) 05:51, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Okay well what about Kodak Black's Tunnel Vision? Or Humble by Kendrick? Or "Rake It Up?" So many songs do not have the right thing on Tidal, which is why reliable sources can change this...

No but isn’t what you mentioned about 1Mind proving my point? You took information from other reliable sources and added it to the credits, that is what I am doing here... 1Mind is not technically credited on tidal, but they are still credited on metadata, liners, etc. There’s no need to state “uncredited.”

That's just your opinion, two other editors have edited the producers as "uncredited" and you keep restoring your edits, I have reported to have you blocked from editing because what are you is edit warring, which is unacceptable. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 03:51, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Donald145145 Obviously, Tidal, metadata, liners and etc aren't going to have every exact credits, which is why repertories such as ASCAP, BMI, SOCAN, SESAC and etc. exists to give updated or corrected credits. The credits on said sites are only able to be released by the record label(s).

Kendrick Lamar's Humble has Pluss credited as a "songwriters/composers" on ASCAP.[2]

Rake It Up had 30 Roc credited on Gotti Made-It, therefore he's a co-producer on I Still Am thus not making 30 Roc a "miscredited" nor "uncredited" producer. 30 Roc is also credited as a "songwriters/composers" on BMI. [3]

As for Humble and Rake It Up, it goes the same for Kodak Black's Tunnel Vision. The "songwriters/composers" can retrieved from BMI with the correct credits.[4] Maintaining (talk) 11:19, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Still there are other songs, like Juicy J's "Ballin" etc... I guess we can compromise

November 2017

Your recent editing history at Luv Is Rage 2 shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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