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Hello Docentation, Jarrvis here. You're quite right - 'self-contradictory' can appear a harsh label. However, what I suggested was self-contradictory was not the use of two different sources with two different claims. If anything, that would be sound academic practice, to point out the diversity of views. What I suggest is self-contradictory was the claim that the Ingando camps were first used in a particular context (even before the Rwandan Civil War), and then an immediate follow-up claim (with no effective caveats made whatsoever) that they were post-Civil War instruments.

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Aberporth

Hi, Docentation, I have edited your recent contribution to Aberporth. See [1]. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Gareth Griffith-Jones:; thank you for changing that. May I ask whether it’s standard practice? (I ask because it seems to be to be slightly more inelegant to have Welsh: x (y) than “the Old Welsh a (b), c (d)” &c.) If it is I shall rectify my other additions—it just occurred to me that my copy of Place-Names of Great Britain and Ireland is useful for something other than joking about possessing boring books to friends, so I intend to upload most of the etymological information from it to Wikipedia in the fullness of time. Docentation (talk) 17:31, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello! No, not standard practice, but if a template is available, I tend to use it. I suppose it was the "old" that I took notice—seemed redundant as modern Welsh applies too. Does that make sense? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I see, @Gareth Griffith-Jones:; I have a feeling that the template was intended to be used slightly differently, though I share the desire to use templates where they exist. The example given at Template:Lang-cy is “Thuringia (German: Thüringen)”, which is different from “Welsh: aber (mouth)”; the former seems to be a reasonable use of punctuation, the latter not. As for Welsh and Old Welsh, I think that it is useful to distinguish between the two for etymological purposes, even if the words are the same. I don’t feel too strongly about this so I shan’t interfere with Aberporth. Docentation (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Good to hear back from you. Cannot disagree. Have fun with the etymology! Don't worry about pinging—you're on my watchlist since 18:26. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Glad we reached consensus; I’ll revert the change to Aberporth if that’s all right with you. Docentation (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Of course it is. Wishing you a pleasing week! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:13, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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@Naypta: I see; I should have read the documentation. Thank you for pointing this out. Docentation (talk) 16:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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@Jonathan A Jones: yes, fair enough—he who drafts inebriated had better (finalise) edit(s) sober. I suppose, apropos, that congratulations are in order. Docentation (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 24 December 2023

• Special report: Did the Chinese Communist Party send astroturfers to sabotage a hacktivist's Wikipedia article?

• News and notes: The Italian Public Domain wars continue, Wikimedia RU set to dissolve, and a recap of WLM 2023

• In the media: Consider the humble fork

• Discussion report: Arabic Wikipedia blackout; Wikimedians discuss SpongeBob, copyrights, and AI

• In focus: Liquidation of Wikimedia RU

• Technology report: Dark mode is coming

• Recent research: "LLMs Know More, Hallucinate Less" with Wikidata

• Gallery: A feast of holidays and carols

• Comix: Lollus lmaois 200C tincture

• Crossword: when the crossword is sus

• Traffic report: What's the big deal? I'm an animal!

• From the editor: A piccy iz worth OVAR 9000!!!11oneone! wordz ^_^

• Apocrypha: Local editor discovered 1,380 lost subheadings in ancient Signpost scrolls. And what he found was shocking.

• Humour: Guess the joke contest

• BJAODN: Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense

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The Signpost: 10 January 2024

• From the editor: NINETEEN MORE YEARS! NINETEEN MORE YEARS!

• Special report: Public Domain Day 2024

• Technology report: Wikipedia: A Multigenerational Pursuit

• News and notes: In other news ... see ya in court!

• In focus: The long road of a featured article candidate

• In the media: What is plagiarism? Oklahoma Disneyland? Reaching a human being at Wikipedia?

• WikiProject report: WikiProjects Israel and Palestine

• Obituary: Anthony Bradbury

• Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2023

• Crossword: everybody gangsta till the style sheets start cascading

• Comix: Conflict resolution

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The Signpost: 31 January 2024

• News and notes: Wikipedian Osama Khalid celebrated his 30th birthday in jail

• Opinion: Until it happens to you

• Disinformation report: How paid editors squeeze you dry

• In the media: Katherine Maher new NPR CEO, go check Wikipedia, race in the race

• In focus: The long road of a featured article candidate, part 2

• Recent research: Croatian takeover was enabled by "lack of bureaucratic openness and rules constraining [admins]"

• Comix: We've all got to start somewhere

• Traffic report: DJ, gonna burn this goddamn house right down

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The Signpost: 13 February 2024

• News and notes: Wikimedia Russia director declared "foreign agent" by Russian gov; EU prepares to pile on the papers

• Disinformation report: How low can the scammers go?

• Gallery: Before and After: Why you don't need to touch grass to dramatically improve images of flora and fauna

• In the media: Speaking in tongues, toeing the line, and dressing the part

• Serendipity: Is this guy the same as the one who was a Nazi?

• Traffic report: Griselda, Nikki, Carl, Jannik and two types of football

• Crossword: Our crossword to bear

• Comix: Strongly

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The Signpost: 2 March 2024

• News and notes: Wikimedia enters US Supreme court hearings as "the dolphin inadvertently caught in the net"

• Recent research: Images on Wikipedia "amplify gender bias"

• In the media: The Scottish Parliament gets involved, a wikirace on live TV, and the Foundation's CTO goes on record

• Obituary: Vami_IV

• Traffic report: Supervalentinefilmbowlday

• WikiCup report: High-scoring WikiCup first round comes to a close

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ITN recognition for Yaya Dillo Djérou

On 4 March 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Yaya Dillo Djérou, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 18:57, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 March 2024

• Technology report: Millions of readers still seeing broken pages as "temporary" disabling of graph extension nears its second year

• Interview: Interview on Wikimedia Foundation fundraising and finance strategy

• Special report: 19-page PDF accuses Wikipedia of bias against Israel, suggests editors be forced to reveal their real names, and demands a new feature allowing people to view the history of Wikipedia articles

• Op-Ed: Wikipedia in the age of personality-driven knowledge

• Recent research: "Newcomer Homepage" feature mostly fails to boost new editors

• News and notes: Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter ratified

• In the media: "For me it’s the autism": AARoad editors on the fork more traveled

• Traffic report: He rules over everything, on the land called planet Dune

• Humour: Letters from the editors

• Comix: Layout issue

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The Signpost: 25 April 2024

• In the media: Censorship and wikiwashing looming over RuWiki, edit wars over San Francisco politics and another wikirace on live TV

• News and notes: A sigh of relief for open access as Italy makes a slight U-turn on their cultural heritage reproduction law

• WikiConference report: WikiConference North America 2023 in Toronto recap

• WikiProject report: WikiProject Newspapers (Not WP:NOTNEWS)

• Recent research: New survey of over 100,000 Wikipedia users

• Traffic report: O.J., cricket and a three body problem

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