User talk:Dmm1169/Archives/2023/July

Area (LDS Church)

@Dmm1169, thanks for your continued tireless work on articles about the Church. I particularly appreciate your currently-ongoing updates to this page to get the statistics up to date. I still have the subpage logging the changes that will go into effect on August 1. Once you are done adding the area-by-area statistics, I will copy them from here to that subpage in compliance with established policies. Also, it appears from a thread on the Growth of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints blog that some changes will be coming to the Africa Central and Africa West Areas on August 1, If you look at the comments on that thread and go down to the one from an MLewis, posted July 2 at 3:06 PM, that comment mentions that, according to the map of areas included with the 2023 assignments change, Nigeria and Chad may be transferred from the Africa West Area to the Africa Central Area. Further down, comments from Chris D. starting with the one dated July 2 at 9:50 PM suggest changes to mission boundaries. There has been no official Church acknowledgement verifying the changes to area or mission boundaries, but there might be a confirmation of those changes closer to August 1. Would any of that be eligible for inclusion here, or would we need something more official before adding that information? Thanks again for your tireless efforts. Jgstokes (talk) 06:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Jgstokes,

Looking at the map they referenced, I'm highly skeptical with taking this map literally until further announcements.

Parts of southern Russia and western Kazakhstan would be split and sent to Europe Central. Currently, no countries outside the US and Canada are split in multiple areas.

Although some areas have quite a diversity (ie. Asia). Areas tend to group those culturally and politically aligned (ie Caribbean Area including parts of South America, ME/NA crossing continental boundaries). There's currently a very hard border between the Baltics (NATO) and Russia/Belarus (CSTO).

Based on the linked map, Bentonville Arkansas Mission would be included in NA SW area. The Arkansas Little Rock Mission would remain in NA SE Area. Currently, all missions based in a state/province are in the same area (all states/provinces split into multiple areas are due to missions based outside the state). In addition, it would be giving members/congregations/facilities to an already much larger area.

This is only a few of the changes this map makes. I'm not saying the church can't/wont make these changes, but I'd have to be skeptical before I see something further. - Dmm1169 (talk) 11:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. I currently have access to the CDOL due to my current calling. I will keep my eyes open there and on official Church sources for verification on any of this. It does occur to me to wonder why the Church would feature those changes on a map tied to an official news release if said changes aren't accurate. But I'm more than willing to wait until either the CDOL or something more official that is in the public domain confirms the changes in question. Thanks. Jgstokes (talk) 19:46, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:LDS Temple geographic region2

Template:LDS Temple geographic region2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 03:14, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Singapore Temple Template

Hello. I was in the process of updating the numbering for announced temples based on this announcement, and for some reason, on the Singapore temple template, the template itself shows the amended number (255), but on the article that has the list of temples, it's showing the number as 250. I have tried to fix that but haven't had much luck. Would you be able to take a look at it? Thanks. Jgstokes (talk) 22:40, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Jgstokes for bringing this up. It was originally announced as Singapore Republic of Singapore Temple but official name has been simplified to Singapore Temple, and for some reason was sending "edit" to the simplified name even though it was actually pulling data from Republic of Singapore Temple template. Anyway it should be using the current official name which is Singapore Temple. Dmm1169 (talk) 00:07, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:LDS Temple geographic region2

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