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Croatian translation

I've listed a page on Wikipedia:Translation_into_English#Croatian-to-English that I think might benefit from some translation, but I can't read Croatian. Could you check it for me? Ashibaka tock 18:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• I'm sorry for taking long to respond; I've been away for a while. I've given my best to translate as much as I could from the article (it isn't written in the best manner either). If you are familiar with the subject in question you should check the information I have added so as to be sure it's error free. Thanks. Denis Kasak 17:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Request

Hi Dkasak, Please translate the article Ayyavazhi to Croatian wikipedia. Thank you. - Paul Raj 20:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• I'm really short on time at the moment, but I'll try to see to that as soon as possible. Denis Kasak 17:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

False Friends of the Slavist

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Liberalism

You seem busy. If you have time, I was hoping you could check out the Serbian Featured Article Liberalism. You might not even need to translate anything, maybe just read it, critique it's structure, compare and contrast to Liberalism, and give the many dedicated editors to the latter article some suggestions. Or you might be a conservative...? Xaxafrad 04:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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Burek in Belgrade (in Serbian)

Since my revision was rejected, here are some points for Dkasak:

Pozdrav. Prilog o bureku mi se vrlo dopada. Ipak mislim da su moje izmene pogresno procenjene.

1. "Bosanski" burek treba staviti u posebnu kategoriju jer to nije isto sto je BUREK u Srbiji, Albaniji, Bugarskoj, Turskoj... Svugde koliko je meni poznato, osim u Bosni, burek je u okrugloj tepsiji zguzvano (ali ne uvijeno) postavljeno testo. U Bosni- i kod Bosanaca i kod Hrvata i Srba- dakle ne radi se ni o kakvoj ancionalnoj odrednici- burek je vrsta pite u Srbiji poznata i kao savijaca, i to, kao sto ispravno stoji samo sa mesom. Ali uopste nije stvar u nadevu, stvar je u tome sto je testo, oblik i pecenje bosanskog bureka potpuno drugacije od onoga sto se u Srbiji i Hrvatskoj i Turskoj naziva burek sa mesom. Svaka hrana koja je balkanska i popularna u Hrvatskoj, po pravilo je uvezena 60-ih godina na primorju zbog turista i po ugledu na sprsku kuhinju. Jeo se leskovacki rostilj iz zato se kaze cevapcici a ne cevapi, vidim da je u Splitu danas Karadjordjeva snicla Dioklecijanova, smesno, ali istinito. Dakle, nemojmo brkati terminoloske probleme i stvarne razlike- zajednicko bosanskom bureku i bureku (sa mesom) u ostalim zemljama je smao ime. Zato bosanksi burek treba na ovom sajtu da bude pomenut kao kurijozitet, a ne "noseci burek" ex-YU drzava.

2. Nikada nisam napsiao da se u hrvatskoj kaze "Serbian burek". Samo sam napisao da se u Hrvatskoj pravi varijanta bureka koja je uvezena iz Srbije, i to je nisu uveli Srbi vec Albanci (sto je potpuno nebitno) koji su uz Makedonce drzali gotovo sve pekare u Beogradu na primer. Istorijski je podatak da je prva buregdzinica u Zagrebu bila pored Kolodvora i da su je otvorili albanski imigranti iz Srbije. Burek u Hrvatskoj sigurno nije ostao od Turaka, dakle morao je biti uvezen iz nekog kraja- u obzir dolaze samo Bosna i Srbija, a s obzirom da je bosanski burek nesto posve drugo, jasno je da se radi o "srbijanskoj" varijanti, ali dakle pod NAVODNICIMA, jer to je zapravo pravi burek kakav se moze kupiti u Turskoj.

3. Prica o sukobu reci burek u Beogradu je ziva istina kojoj je ceo Beograd svedok. Sasvim je jasno bilo da se ne moze odrzati ista rec za dve stvari i lingvisticki je bilo ocekivano da se ta polisemija ukloni- jer su nesporazumi bili ogromni.

4. Barem sto se Srbije tice, prvi put cujem za nekakvo porednjenje izmedju bureka sa mesom i sa sirom.

Mnogo pozz, nadam se da ce neke moje sugestije biti uvazene, Lzz

Personally, I think we should discuss this in English so others can also participate and share their views, but since I'm not familiar with your proficiency in English, I'll continue in Croatian. For anyone else who might want to know what's going on—we are discussing here some recent changes Lzz made to the 'Burek' article which I've reverted, possibly erroneously. If anyone else is interested, I'll sumarise all this in English. Now back to the subject:

Za pocetak, htio bih reci da sam tvoje promjene obrisao primarno zato sto nisu potkrijepljene citatima i jer nisu bile bas najbolje napisane. Uzevsi u obzir da osobno mislim kako i nisu posve tocne, maknuo sam ih, ali sam zaboravio napisati u sazetak (da ne mislis da vodim nekakav sveti rat :) ) i da cu ih vratiti ukoliko imas citate koji to dokazuju ili to raspravimo.

Isto tako, primjetio sam da je s tvog IP-a napravljen poveci broj edita, a sudeci po artiklima koji su editirani, pretpostavljam da si to bio ti. Predlazem ti da si registriras nick jer ce to biti i u tvojem interesu. Naime, koliko god to bilo neposteno, na ispravke koje dolaze od neregistriranih korisnika se uvijek malo pomnije gleda i ostrije sudi jer najvise vandalizma dolazi upravo od takvih korisnika. Zato se nadam da uvrijedio ili zvucao bezobrazno/bahato jer mi to nije bila namjera :)

E da, i kad se potpisujes, koristi cetiri uzastopne tilde, ovako: ~~~~

1. Svjestan sam da je bosanski burek ponesto drukciji od onih u drugim zemljama. Ali sto je to toliko drukcije da se on potpuno izdvoji od ostalih? Zamolio bih te da mi to daljnje pojasnis. Osobno mislim da je vidljivo da su obje 'podvrste' bureka nastale iz istog jela. Sto se tice oblika, cak i u Hrvatskoj se na skoro svim mjestima prodaje i 'obicni' burek, i onaj motani koji nije zguvan i okrugao.

2. Mozda to nisi mislio, ali svakako si to krivo srocio. Tvoj tekst je ostavljao dojam da su burek kakav se u Hrvatskoj jede izmislili Srbi, sto naravno nije tocno. Slazem se da je moguce da je taj burek dovezen u Hrvatsku iz Srbije, ali to bi tada trebalo staviti samo kao napomenu u taj clanak. Buduci da imam dojam da ni ti ne bi stavio ruku u vatru da je to tako (jer logika da je morao doci ili iz Srbije, ili iz Bosne nije dovoljna), bilo bi lijepo kad bi imao neki izvor koji to potvrdjuje. Osobno cu priznati da ja ne znam je li to stvarno tako, ali bi svakako trebalo biti uvrsteno ako je istina. I opet napominjem, posto mi je izgledalo da je primarna razlika koju radis izmedju tog vrsta bureka i bosanskog nacin slaganja tijesta, i u Hrvatskoj je motani burek vrlo cest, cak bih se usudio reci skoro kao i ovaj 'obicni'.

3. Opet, ovo je vjerojatno istina jer ti zasigurno znas bolje od mene, ali je bilo lose napisano i odlucio sam to privremeno izbaciti. Volio bih kad bi mi ovdje napisao ukratko o tome na srpskom (i naravno, dao neki citat ako je moguce, jer je to ipak najvaznije) pa cu ja drage volje prevesti to i uvrstiti u clanak.

4. Sto se ovoga tice, u Hrvatskoj se o tome jako puno raspravlja (dobro, koliko se o bureku moze raspravljati) i bilo je mnostvo diskusija o tome zove li se i burek sa sirom 'burek' ili je to 'sirnica'. Ove diskusije vodile su se i s mnogim ljudima iz Bosne koji vecinom samo burek s mesom nazivaju burekom.

Eto, to bi bilo to zasad, nadam se da ces mi odgovoriti da nastavimo diskusiju :) Pozdrav! Denis Kasak 01:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• Dakle raspitao sam se malo. Treba obratiti paznju na dve interesantne pojave.

Pre svega burek je rec turskog porekla a u turskom znaci koliko i pita, bilo kakva (dakle nisam bio u pravu kada je u pitanju turski burek). Nema sumnje da se i bosanski i srbijanski burek barem u srpskom jeziku u jednom najsirem smilsu mogu nazvati pitom.

E sad, prvo je vrlo interesantno sto je rec burek u Bosni poprimila samo znacenje "pita sa mesom". A druga interesantna stvar je sto je ocigledno postojala jedna iridijacijska tacka iz koje se prosirio burek iskljucivo kao jelo od u okrugloj tepsiji slozenih kora. Logika stvari govori da je to moralo biti negde na potezu od juzne Srbije do Grcke. Vecina pekara u Srbiji su bili iz juzne Srbije i iz Makedonije, a njim se svakako mogu pridodati i pekari Albanci iz istog kulturnog kruga- sa Kosova. No jednu stvar treba primetiti. Albanci su muslimani, a okrugli burek u tepsiji se po originalnom STARINSKOM receptu pravi iskljucivo sa SVINJSKOM mascu (tada biljne nije bilo, a to je kraj u kome je bilo nepoznato i suncokretovo ulje- koristilo se maslinovo) i upravo je ta masnoca jedna od njegovih glavnih odlika. Dakle takav "tepsirani", "okrugli" burek morao je biti novotarija nemuslimanskog stanovnistva- Grka, Makedonaca ili Srba, a iz tog kraja (u kome se inace govore dijalekti koji spadaju u tzv. balkanski jezicki savez, sto je pokazatelj kulturnog jedinstva) takav burek se morao prosiriti i na druge krajeve. U prvom talasu, od druge polovine 19. veka po Srbiji, uglavnom uzoj, a u drugom talasu u 2. polovini 20. veka po citavoj Jugoslaviji (osim u Bosni), ne samo u Hrvatskoj vec i u Crnoj Gori i cak i u Sloveniji. U Beogradu je tepsirani burek bio dobro poznat jos pre rata (2. svetskog). Spadao je u takozvanu standardnu pekarsku ponudu pored hleba, kifli, slanih stapica i pereca i pogacica. Ali posebnih buregdzinica u Beogradu do 90-ih nije bilo. U drugim gradovima narocito severne Srbije koliko sam ja imao priliku da vidim- jeste. To je zato sto ni u Vojvodini se burek nije prodavao u pekarama, pa je valjalo otvoriti posebna mesta koja ce ga prodavati. A isto je bilo i u Hrvatskoj, gde je primerice u Zagrebu prva buregdzinica bila pored Kolodvora i drzala ju je albasnka porodica. Podatak o "sukobu bureka" u Beogradu, koji se tek skoro okoncao naveo sam kao sociolingvisticki kuriozitet. Beogradjani jako vole 'bosankse pite', i rado svracaju u buregdzinice koje postoje dakle tek od polovine 90-ih. Isto tako, pre talasa izbeglica niko u Beogradu nje pricao o cevapima, vec samo o ćvapčićima koji se nisu jeli u ćevabdžinicama već u kafanama. Postoji razlika i izmedju bosanske pite (kako se u Beogradu zovu bosanksi burek, sirnica...- ti nazivi nisu se uvrezili) i pite kakva se tradicionalno pravi u Srbiji. Srbijasnka pita je dosta šira, nesto je masnija od bosanske ali ni priblizno bureku, intenzivnije je filovana (gotovo u svim slanim varijantama sa jajima) i kore su tanje, tako da spoljna korica obicno napukne. U plehove se redjaju uspravno stangle (i to cesto ne spojene), a ne uvija se po duzini. U nekim delovima Srbije takodjke se tradicionalno prave "bosanske pite" i tmao se zovu savijace, ali taj naziv je kao i jelo u Beogradu bio poznat samo kao egzotizam- naziv za nesto sto in loco ne postoji.

Tako u boljim pekaram u Boegradu, danas ima da se kupi: (1) burek sa mesom, sirom, prazan... (2) bosanska pita sa mesom, sirom, zeljem (vrlo retko krompirom), (3) pita sa sirom, mesom, jabukama, visnjama i plus razne gibanica koje su slicne piti a opet nesto drugo kao i druge slicne stvari. Ako budem naisao negde na nesto podobno za citiranje, poslacu. Mozda bi bilo najbolje ako nesto ubacujes u tekst da dodas da je potrebna uputnica na izvor. Vrlo lepa diskusija.

pozz,

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Translation help needed

Hey, I saw you mentioned at Wikipedia:Translators_available#Latin-to-English. Translation help needed for the articles Rus' people, Rus (name), Kievan Rus', Rus' Khaganate, and probably also Varangians and Annales Bertiniani.

Original Latin source: [1] (starting with "Venerunt etiam legati Graecorum a Theophilo imperatore directi, Theodosius videlicet, Calcedonensis metropolitanus episcopus, et Theophanius spatharius, ferentes cum donis imperatore dignis epistolam quos imperator quinto decimo Kalendas Iunii in Ingulenheim honorifice suscepit" on that page, and continuing AFAIK for two more pages).

The Latin source I need help on is the Annales Bertiniani, which is a collection of Frankish annals that was completed in 882 AD. The issue behind this is the historical first mention of the Rus' people, which was a Norse tribe, also known as the Varangians from Sweden that, starting in the 9th century from Novgorod and Kiev (Kievan Rus') and allegedly under the leadership of their chieftain Rurik (or rather RøRikR in Old Norse) conquered portions of the Baltics and today's northwestern Russia, a realm which was soon known as the Rus' Khaganate (with the result that lots of placenames, such as Novgorod, actually have an Old Norse etymology). Eventually, the Rus' Khaganate, even though the Norse ruling elite was but small and soon assimilated to the Balto-Slavic population, became the nucleus and namegiver for modern Russia.

The thing is, this so-called Normannic theory is still kinda controversial, as modern Russian scholars often regard it as a modern romantic nationalist myth originating with late-19th century Pan-Germanism. What the Russians are saying is that the original Rus were actually Slavs. Now, these 9th century Annales Bertiniani seem to be a rather authoritative, and, given their time of origination, pretty concise, source to refute these Russian scholars.

What I get of this Latin text is only the gist of it. Apparently, a delegation of Rus people were interrogated by Frankish Emperor Louis the Pious at Ingelheim am Rhein in 839 AD, where they said that:

• the name of their tribe was Rus (spelled "Rhos" in this Latin text, maybe via Byzantine Greek translation? As far as I can tell, a letter from Byzantine Emperor Theophilos or Michael III is mentioned),
• they originally came from Sweden
• but had settled in what is northwestern Russia today (I find this information several times in modern sources, attributing it to the Annales Bertiniani, but *WHAT THE HECK* was their contemporary name for "northwestern Russia"?), and
• that they had switched to calling their chieftains chacanus now.

Chacanus is Latin for Khagan, a title they had likely borrowed from contact with the Avars while conquering from the Baltic coast southward. It's why their realm in centuries to come was to be known as the Rus' Khaganate.

But what I need for good sourcing is an exact translation of portions relevant to the informations bulleted above. Original Latin text at [2] (starting with "Venerunt etiam legati Graecorum a Theophilo imperatore directi, Theodosius videlicet, Calcedonensis metropolitanus episcopus, et Theophanius spatharius, ferentes cum donis imperatore dignis epistolam quos imperator quinto decimo Kalendas Iunii in Ingulenheim honorifice suscepit" on that page, and continuing AFAIK for two more pages). --79.193.34.87 (talk) 02:43, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

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Molba

Hej Denise,

Možeš li molim te prevesti "Sportse igre mladih" (https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportske_igre_mladih) na engleski, da vide ljudi da se i lijepe stvari dešavaju.

Pozdrav, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wasteful username (talk • contribs) 10:59, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Translation for page "Porto Montenegro"

Poštovani,

Javljam se povodom prevoda stranice "Porto Montenegro". Željeo bih da stranica Porto Montenegro kao internacionalna kompanija ima svoj kratak opis i na Engleskom jeziku, pa sam pokušao da ga sam prevedem, međutim wikipedija mi ne dozvoljava da objavim prevod jer je za to potreban prevod iskusnog prevodioca. Molim Vas da nas posavjetujete kako da dođemo do prevoda.

Srdačan pozdrav, Vujacic99 (talk) 13:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC)