User talk:Digwuren/Petri Krohn

Diff collection

Ive made a categorized diff collection I will start to fill in ASAP.--Alexia Death 12:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Here are some diffs I collected last week, where he vilifies Estonia: Claim that Estonian editors have a Holocaust denial agenda on Talk:The Holocaust while canvassing for votes for Talk:Estonian_war_crimes_trials#Requested_move [1]

Claiming Estonian editor is engaging in Holocaust denial in defence of an anonymous IP reported on the 3RR notice board [2]

Claim of "yet another example of Estonian Holocaust denial" [3]

Claim that dismissing the Holocaust is common among Estonians [4]

False claim that the Estonia denies the right for a church to practice religion, with comparison to China. [5]

Estonian irredentism [6]

Smearing with allegations of dirty tactics, in this case "off site cooperation" to user Ghirlandajo [7] Martintg 21:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

List of articles that need to be reviewed for diffs

Just a list of articles and pages that might have good diffs. Feel free to extend.--Alexia Death 12:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

• Estland
• Bronze Soldier of Tallinn
• Lydia Koidula
• Soviet occupation of Romania
• Occupation of Latvia 1940–1945
• Estonian Orthodox Church
• Jüri Uluots
• Congress of Estonia

If anybody has diffs of those "Estonian nationalist extremists" namecallings?--Alexia Death 12:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I tried to find them yesterday, but failed. Wikipedia is not easily googleable, it turns out.

I'll try to sic a custom-purpose search bot on Wikipedia, if I get the time. Digwuren 12:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

You can just take the lists PK's weird manipulations, that you composed on talk pages, as a basis for further 'diff hunt'. E.J. 13:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Here are all Petri's edits - beware, slow. This is one example of insulting/unsuitable edit summary, there are faaaaar more, that was just my first contact with Petri. I'll just get some edit summaries...

• Yes - but it also proves that Estonians are racists, if not Nazis
• Further reading - - →External links - This must be Marju Lauristin - Wouldn't it be time to create the article? Or is she too commie for you?
• Well, maybe this is just plain WP:VANDALism?
• restored ref. Your actions lead to question your motives. What you are doing can be interpreted as Holocaut denial.
• Articles created on June 10 - Estonian war crimes trials: refs fixed, but article still getting flak / POV-pushing from disbelievers
• restored Directorate - Why do you not create your own articles to fool around with?
• let's make this attempted denial even more explicit
• reverted show trial - This is Holocaust denial and you know it!

...and so on...

DLX 16:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

should PK-s "Korp! Estonia on wheels" be mentioned anywhere?--Alexia Death 19:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, none of my socks has given me any insight of how this could be construed as insulting or attacky. I could try divining, but you'd have to wait my socks to get sufficiently rigid to be usable as rods, first. Digwuren 19:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Im afraid that before that the day comes when it is time to make this official. Oh well. --Alexia Death 19:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

These may be of interest: [8], [9], [10]. Biruitorul 23:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I think now one should sum up all things, re-formulate everything and publish it: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Petri Krohn. E.J. 09:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Originally, I thought we should go all the way back to the beginning of the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Occupation of Latvia saga. However, the volume of the material is much higher than I expected; as of now, only one fifth of the time between then and now has been processed, and look what we already have. Thus, shifting from diff-collecting to closeup and filing may be a wise plan indeed. Digwuren 10:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Have you already added this recent diff, where he once again spreads his sock lies in addition to calling Digwuren a troll. E.J. 09:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I presumed it was the previous complaint to Neil, and call for extrajudical (extra-political?) blocking, but it is not that one. I believe it merits a special mention, especially in the context that it follows my courtesy notice regarding this WP:RFC/U preparation page here, timewise. It seems likely that a reasonable interpretation of this incident is that it is a bad faith attempt to get rid of upcoming discussion of his misdeeds; not coincidentally, a category of such diffs from earlier is already present in the diff collection. Digwuren 10:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I added to racism part two quotes. Now here are few more stuff, dunno what from here has been already listed and what hasn't so maybe someone who has been more active here and therefore has better overview, would check it:

• Personal attacks:
  

edit summary: [11] reverted (#3) meatpuppet
edit summary: [12] Undid revision 133295140 by Digwuren (talk) - rvt stalker
[13] One of the editors here is clearly a single-purpose account, with an agenda.
[14] I can fully understand Ghirla's suspicion, many of the editors now promoting this article, have so far contributed very little usefull or NPOV material to Wikipedia.

• Blanket accusations:
  

[15] It seem to be a canvassing call to revet my edits at Congress of Estonia and to circumvent the WP:3RR rule.
[16] The deletion proposal is part of a bad faith denialist campaign targeted against articles in category Category:Holocaust in Estonia.

• Categorization of alternative history at userpager:
  

[17]

• Canvassing and personal attacks:
  

[18] Why is it that one Swede and one Finn have to alone defend both the Russian and the neutral point-of-view in this article, againt a horde of agressive and hostile POV pushers from Estonia? Up to now there has been virtually no participation from Russia.
[19] Why is it that one Swede and one Finn have to alone defend both the Russian and the neutral point-of-view in this article, againt a horde of agressive and hostile POV pushers from Estonia? Up to now there has been virtually no participation from Russia.

• Openly calling other users to join his POV pushing campaign/Also qualifies as racism:
  

[20] You User:Beatles Fab Four, as an pro-Russian editor, should forget the insult and support this formulation, as it gives support to the Russian view that many Estonians are racists, even giving credibility the the depiction of Estonians as born again Nazis.

• Attempting to discourage other editors in participation of discussion:
  

[21] Do not expect talk pages, or other normal dispute resolution processes to produce any outcome. You will be talked to death.

• Editing other user’s comments without their permission:
  

[22]

• Bullshit(Although i suggest to find better term :))
  

[23] List of Pro-Axis Leaders and Governments or Direct Control in Occupied Territories: Estonia (until 1944, Government in Exile until 1992)

• hypocrisy(two diffs are related):
  

[24] The page is not linked from anywhere, and should not be.
[25] I started collecting evidence at User:Petri Krohn/Evidence. Initially this page was hidden, but now stalkers have published the link, so I feel I can do the same. Feel free to contribute to the page.
Its up to you how you categorize these and probably most of them you have anyway, just as I had those(then Petri decided its good idea to accuse me in holocaust denial at his evidence page I decided that some counterevidence can be useful) I thought to share in case you missed few.--Staberinde 11:42, 19 June 2007 (UTC)