Devagyarishi238

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August 2014

Your recent editing history at Varna (Hinduism) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:28, 9 August 2014 (UTC) Thank you NeilN ^{talk to me}

I am new to wiki, i didnt know about the rule .

Okay, please also see WP:BRD. You've opened a discussion (which is good!) so please participate in the discussion and see what others say (I've replied) before re-adding the content. Also, please sign your talk page posts by adding ~~~~ --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:49, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Please note it's regarded as very bad form to substantially alter or add to your post after someone has replied to it. [1] You should create a new post instead of modifying the old one. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:58, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Copied .Will keep that in mind Thnx Devagyarishi238 19:08, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Another tip - use : to indent your posts (I've fixed yours). If you edit this section you'll see what I mean. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:12, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

like this ?Devagyarishi238 (talk) 19:19, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

You got it! --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks mate you have been very helpfulDevagyarishi238 (talk) 19:27, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

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August 2014

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Varna (Hinduism), you may be blocked from editing. You are attempting to pass off your own translation as someone else's despite being told not to. Perhaps this will get your attention. NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:37, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

NeilNits only Sitush who has problem with the edit but he is not able to justify his stand ,and regarding my own translation being used as someone else's i can easily change my interpretation to what is written in the book.Like you said i tried to reach a concensus ,i have given 10 sources to justify my stand but Sitush hasnt been able to give any source to his stand .

There are two issues. One is what weight to give your sources. That can be hashed out on the talk page (and don't put a deadline of a couple hours for a response - a few days is reasonable). Second, and more disturbing, are your multiple attempts to pass off your own translation as someone else's despite being told not to. Putting a reference after the quoted translation implies the exact quote is found in the source. This is misleading at best and deliberate falsification at worst. You need to understand this. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:56, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

talk to meI have removed your major concern over my translation with the exact quotes from the book ,now i dont think we should have a problem Devagyarishi238 (talk) 17:20, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

That was one part of the problem. I suggest you stop edit-warring through sockpuppets and wait for the discussion to continue. This may take days/weeks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

NeilN ^{talk to me} So you should also tell Sitush to learn some manners he is making it personal now,he knows he cant win on the academic front so he is doing this ,approx how much time usually does this take .You are a experienced user .Devagyarishi238 (talk) 17:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

As I said, it could take days/weeks. See WP:DR for our dispute resolution processes. And honestly, adding anything like "by the upholders of the social crime styled as the caste system" is going to get your opinion discounted by any third-party editors. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

NeilN ^{talk to me}I dont understand how to get this edit go thru ,when i mellow down the quote people say that the quote is made up by me ,when i use the exact quote then it comes out to be a bigger problem .The issue would have been settled by now only if Sitush would have been reasonable in his approach ,he has only one view which doesnt change even when being given sources .Anyways thanks mate you have been quite reasonable.Devagyarishi238 (talk) 17:56, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Varna (Hinduism). NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:39, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of Indefinite for Disruptive editing and using multiple accounts, as you did at Varna (Hinduism). Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  Bgwhite (talk) 20:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

NOTE I will unblock you after three days if you promise not to continually revert, talk it out first and not create other accounts. Bgwhite (talk) 21:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Bgwhite Agreed but i have just one request ,i have been giving ample sources to justify my claim regarding a scripture on the talk page of the article but still a user is not letting the edit go through ,i would like to know how to invite some more users in the discussion who have earlier edited the articles related to hinduism cause they might be knowing stuff that we are discussing on the talk page .Devagyarishi238 (talk) 21:07, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Bgwhite and also please tell me how is consensus reached ,is it based on votes or something or that sortDevagyarishi238 (talk) 21:15, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

1. My knowledge of Hinuism is next to nothing, so I'm not in a position to say who is right or wrong when it comes to content.
2. I'm assuming this relates to this edit. You gave alot of references, but I cannot see in any ref the exact quote. In which reference does the exact quote take place? If the quote cannot be found in any of the references, then the quote cannot be in the article.
3. Let's assume the quote is backed up by references. That doesn't mean the quote should or should not be in the article. Are the references reliable? Is the quote something that should go into the article? When it comes to castes and any religion, there will be multiple points of view. Is the point of view on the fringe? Do other editors agree the point of view should be in the article? Is the point of view told neutrally?
4. This is where consensus comes in. In most cases, only two editors are involved in a dispute. Kind of hard to reach consensus in these situations. There are a couple of options. One can goto a place where the topic has a WikiProject and leave a message there. In this case, Wikipedia talk:Hinduism-related topics notice board. However, that talk page is not very active. The other option is to goto Wikipedia:Third opinion. One can request a person give a look and give their opinion. They may favour your position or the other person's position, thus consensus has been achieved. Bgwhite (talk) 22:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bgwhite: Three editors in this dispute so WP:3O is not an option. Devagyarishi238, consensus is not a vote. Consensus is determining who has the strongest case based on Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I linked above to our dispute resolution mechanisms. Here it is again WP:DR. And a link to WP:CONSENSUS. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Devagyarishi, the "user [who] is not letting the edit go through" seems likely to be a reference to me. I'm the person who pleaded with Bgwhite to downgrade your block to something that is more of a cooling-off period rather than indefinite. I'm not against you but am insisting that we follow the policies that apply at Wikipedia, as indeed is NeilN and the other person who turned up a couple of days ago on that talk page. This is not some sort of personal battle, far from it. I think that you mean well, honestly, and that you are just getting a bit frustrated. If you have the time, perhaps try reading some relevant policies such as WP:DUE and WP:PRIMARY. WP:FRINGE might also be worth reading. That's what a cooling-off period will give you space to look at, and we'll likely all still be here in three days' time. These policies etc are not set by me or NeilN or any other single person: they have been defined by the community at large and, while not set in stone, they represent the community's stand on this, that and the other at any particular point in time. Some of the policies frustrate me, too, some of the time. But I have to learn to live with them. - Sitush (talk) 23:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and I did ask a question about this general issue at WT:INB, the talk page for Wikipedia's "India Project", which is where a lot of people who are interested in Indic-related subjects get to collaborate. I stress the word collaborate - that's one of the things that really is at the core of how this whole enterprise works, although I know from personal experience that sometimes it doesn't work out the way I'd prefer it to! - Sitush (talk)

Devagyarishi238, could you respond about my and NeilN's messages. I'd like to hear your thoughts the messages before doing an unblock. Bgwhite (talk) 21:50, 13 August 2014 (UTC)