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Images edit

Please do not add images to articles which contain watermarks, distortions, or have any credits in the image itself, unless, of course, the image is intended to demonstrate watermarking, distortion etc. All photo credit should be in a summary on the image description page, not within the image. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 21:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Opps. --- David Yeo T. B. (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for uploading new versions of the images that eliminated that issue. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 22:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
=D --- David Yeo T. B. (talk) --- 03:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia. Heaven or Hell? Welcome or not? edit

Being “old” in life, but I am definitely young being a Wikipedian. I have always thought of Wikipedia as a heaven and wonderland of knowledge. Man! Knowledge yes, but Heaven and Wonderland? No! Under the hood, if one view the history of articles, it is hell (sorry, can find a better word to describe it), there is this constant war between the Saints and the devils and I was standing in-between.

I have benefited much being a Wikipedia reader, and I thought I could help to contribute a little, but to my surprise/dismay I was quickly being accused of vandalizing by Binksternet (talk) for this article. And I realized I have made a mistake after reading Binksternet (talk) comments and links posted on my talk page. And I quickly undo and rephrased my edit, being new and not knowing by doing that, I have actually undone Muisak work and not knowing the edit was still againts the WP:NOR at that point of time. Sorry. My wrong undid was very quickly undone within a minute by Alansohn (talk) and has Threatened to be blocked. At that point of time I was really mad, and was tempted to vandalize Alansohn (talk) pages, and lucky being old in life, I have learned not to be too quick in judging others. What happened to "respect the talk page guidelines"?

I wonder, how many young Wikipedians like me being discouraged (or turned into real Vandalizing Wikipedians) by experience Wikipedians like Alansohn (talk); without looking into the contributions history of that Wikipedian and quick to judge and fast in threatening... At least to me.

Wikipedia. Is it heaven or hell? Are we welcome or not? Sigh... --- David Yeo T. B. (talk) --- 08:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Not sure if there is anyone in particular you were addressing this to, but it isn't surprising that you got a warning when you made inappropriate edits twice. I can see that this was due to not knowing wikipedia policies well and understand you feel a bit bitten, but the people who fight vandalism have a large and thankless task and they aren't perfect either. My advice is that if a change of yours is reverted, to stop a minute (or an hour or a day), calm down, and usually not try to "fix" the edit (especially not then and there). You can always bring up the matter on the talk page or figure that if it is really important, someone else will eventually make a similar edit. See for example Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary for further thoughts. Kingdon (talk) 09:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)Reply