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Re: Slashdot page history prev/next messed up, possibly related to imports
Hi David, this is T4930. There are far more revisions with out-of-order revision ID numbers than out-of-order dates; that's been the case even before the import feature was enabled here. Graham87 02:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Long lines in code blocks now look better. [1]
- You can now see graphs in VisualEditor. [2]
- When you read a page on the mobile site, you can now see a link to go to its talk page. [3]
- The code coloring tool has changed. You can now use many more languages. It now also works on mobile. [4] [5] [6]
- You can look at a new site to learn how to reuse data from Wikimedia sites. [7]
Problems
- JavaScript was broken on some wikis due to a code error. VisualEditor and other tools that use JavaScript were broken. [8]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from June 30. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 1. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 2 (calendar).
- You can now use a tool in VisualEditor to add and edit code in color. [9]
- When you edit a sentence in the Translate tool, it can show you older translations. They help you save time if they look alike. The older translations should now work better. If you see problems, you should report them. [10]
- If you are an admin or have other special rights, you now need a strong password. [11]
- Bot and JavaScript coders: The old continuation mode of the API for
action=querydoesn't work any more. [12]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on June 30 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future
- When you create a new account, it will also create one on Meta-Wiki and mediawiki.org. [13]
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15:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On the mobile site, you now see more information when you search for a page. It now shows the description from Wikidata. [14]
Problems
- The code of long pages is not colored any more. You may see this problem on the pages of long gadgets. [15]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 7. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 8. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 9 (calendar).
- The "Page information" tool shows how many users watch the page. You can now see how many are active. [16] [17]
- You can now translate articles into English with the new translation tool. [18]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on July 7 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:13, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now see a list of pages with errors in code coloring. [19]
Problems
- There was a problem with editing on Thursday. Some tools like bots and VisualEditor were broken on all wikis for 10 minutes. [20]
- There was a problem with images on Thursday. They were broken on all wikis for 15 minutes. [21]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 15. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 16 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join a technical meeting at Wikimania in Mexico City this week. [22]
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15:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 21. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 22. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 23 (calendar).
- You now see more warnings in the image viewer. They tell you to be careful when using the image, for example if it shows a person. [23]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on July 21 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Soon you won't be able to use MathJax to display math. [24]
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03:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use redirects to link to JavaScript pages. [25]
- You cannot use the compact user bar any more. [26]
- You can change your options to see bigger images. [27]
- You can watch short videos about how to use VisualEditor. [28]
- You can now edit pages linked in "what links here" more easily. [29]
Problems
- There was a problem with some Lua modules on July 22 and 23. Some pages using them did not list them in "what links here". You can fix those pages with a null edit: edit and save the page without making any change.
- There was a problem with the abuse filter page on big wikis on July 23. It was due to a code error. [30]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 29. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 30 (calendar).
- JavaScript authors: You cannot use
wgNoticeUserDatato get edit counts anymore. [31]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on July 28 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:05, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
How to remove outdated information box at top of page
Hi David,
Thank you for your email; I am new to this. How is the information in the box at the top of the page managed? I would like to have the outdated information bullet removed (as well as the whole box for that matter). Larry sepe (talk) 20:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Larry sepe: Can you give a specific example? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The ContentTranslation extension has been updated:
- The error page you see when the sites are not working is now simpler and easier to read. It also shows the Wikimedia logo. [37]
- MediaWiki now supports redirects for CSS pages. [38]
- Bots can't guess captchas unlimited times anymore. [39]
Problems
- There was a problem with thumbnails on wikis with local images on July 24 and 25. It was due to a code error. [40]
- We can't search by file type on Wikimedia wikis now. [41]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 5. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 6 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 4 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:51, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- MediaWiki can now hide the signature button when you edit a content page. [42]
- The "Your preferences have been saved" message has changed. You can now see more easily what was saved when you change preferences several times. [43]
- You can now play Ogg video files in some browsers that don't support this format. This solution uses JavaScript and works on desktop browsers only for now. It will work on mobile later. [44]
- You can now use the same tools to edit style in VisualEditor on mobile as in desktop browsers. [45]
- It is now easier to see if there is a JavaScript error in a user or site script. [46]
- JavaScript authors:
- You can no longer use the Sajax library. You can see a list of pages to fix. [47] [48]
- You can no longer use
document.writeon Wikimedia wikis. You can see a list of pages to fix. [49] [50]
- The content translation tool now works better. It is easier to use math, and useless tags are no longer added. [51]
Problems
- More edits have been rejected due to loss of session data lately. This is now fixed. [52]
- Importing a Lua module sometimes didn't work. This is now fixed. [53]
- Text was sometimes lost in the content translation tool. One part of the problem is now fixed. [54]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 12. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 13 (calendar).
- UploadWizard is getting a new look. The look of buttons and checkboxes has already changed. This week, UploadWizard gets a new date picker. The other text fields will change soon. [55]
- You can now test VisualEditor on mobile devices of all sizes. [56]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 11 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Some things in the watchlist will get a new look. [57]
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14:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Many Wikipedias can now use information from any Wikidata item in any Wikipedia article. Before they could only use the Wikidata item that matched the subject of the article. [58] [59] [60]
- Some auto-saving problems and other issues in the Content Translation tool are now fixed. Please report to the Content Translation feedback page if you still have problems. [61]
Problems
- Older gadgets that are not using ResourceLoader are not loading anymore. They need to be updated. [62] [63]
- On August 12 the machine translation servers and the Content Translation tool didn't work. This was fixed on the same day. [64]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 19. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 20 (calendar).
- You can soon watch when something is added to or removed from a category. [65]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 18 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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16:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Deez Nuts
Sorry about that. Huggle gives a badly limited view of an article, and I should have checked before reverting instead of lazily erring on the side of BLP. FourViolas (talk) 03:31, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Disambiguation pages are now excluded from the random page function. [66]
Problems
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 26. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 27 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 25 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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13:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Message out of deletion discussion
Should I say sorry to you? What should I do? TheGGoose (talk) 22:25, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- In a collaboration like Wikipedia, we can all share our experience and learn from each other. I've several mistakes in the past couple of weeks when it came to mis-stating or mis-applying Wiki-guidelines or policies (in my case, it was usually because I was applying a guideline or policy that had been updated, and I didn't check for updates). Sometimes, I've recognized my mistakes and corrected them. Other times another editor has brought them to my attention, for which I am grateful. Please keep contributing. Wikipedia needs more people like you to be active in "maintenance and administration" areas of the project like AFD. To the extent that I may have made you reconsider doing this kind of work, please accept my apology. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:40, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- Accepted. I reverted a deleting edit to the discussion after your last edit. Other challenges where having things personal in it to me is still difficult to come by. I don't know if the AGF policy was updated prior to your use of it. Maybe I was overreacting. TheGGoose (talk) 22:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your participation at Articles for Deletion. Please consider signing you comment and adding any appropriate policies/guidelines to support it. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I must've hit "save page" or hit the enter key too early and not reviewed it. Fixed. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:10, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- VisualEditor will now automatically create a link when you type in or paste an ISBN, PMID, or RFC. [68][69]
- The link editor in VisualEditor is now a bit wider. It's now the same width as the automatic citation tool. [70]
- VisualEditor gadget authors can no longer use the backwards-compatibility module
ext.visualEditor.viewPageTarget.init. Useext.visualEditor.desktopArticleTarget.initinstead. [71] - Gadget writers can now use mediawiki.ForeignApi to communicate between different Wikimedia wikis. [72]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 1. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 2. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 3 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 1 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikidata API will be updated with breaking changes. This will probably happen on September 9. [73]
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21:36, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your concerns for the notability of school articles. Our normal procedures as established by precedent are documented at WP:OUTCOMES. 'Redirect' is anchored in deletion policy as a suitable alternative to outright deletion. In the case of likely outcomes as 'Redirect' please consider doing this uncontentious, uncontroversial task yourself rather than gumming up the overloaded AfD process. This will avoid me having to place boilerplate messages like this one. If you are not sure how to make redirects, don't hesitate to ask me or see WP:REDIRECT. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:18, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your concerns for the notability of school articles. Our normal procedures as established by precedent are documented at WP:OUTCOMES. 'Redirect' is anchored in deletion policy as a suitable alternative to outright deletion. In the case of likely outcomes as 'Redirect' please consider doing this uncontentious, uncontroversial task yourself rather than gumming up the overloaded AfD process. This will avoid me having to place boilerplate messages like this one. If you are not sure how to make redirects, don't hesitate to ask me or see WP:REDIRECT. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:22, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for September 4
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Joyce Frankland Academy
I think not, remember Wikipedia titles will often go on the common name of an institution rather than the official name. There is no other Joyce Frankland Academy so it doesn't require disambiguation, and i'm sure we can all agree that the school is more known locally as Joyce Frankland Academy rather than Joyce Frankland Academy, Newport. - Bleaney (talk) 19:27, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- A Google search of "Joyce Frankland Academy" -wiki -pedia -wikipedia -site:jfan.org.uk showed 62 results. More had "Joyce Frankland Academy, Newport" or "Joyce Frankland Academy Newport" than not. It could go either way for the page title, but the infobox and opening sentence should use the official name in this case (had the official name been all-but-completely-unused outside of "official" uses, I may have agreed with you completely on this issue). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:41, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- If you feel the need to use the official name in the infobox and opening sentence then go ahead, knock yourself out... I still think the page title should stay as Joyce Frankland Academy. - Bleaney (talk) 20:01, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now mention up to 50 users in a post and they will get a notification. Previously you could notify up to 20 users. [74]
- A new version of the Wikidata Toolkit has been released. It now has Wikibase API support. [75]
- You can now use Wikidata to find all good or featured articles in a Wikipedia version. [76]
Problems
- There was a problem with Tool Labs due to kernel issues. This has been fixed. [77]
- The Content Translation tool published some pages with the same reference repeated several times. This has been fixed. [78][79]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 9. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 10 (calendar).
- The maximum character length when you search for something on the Wikimedia wikis is now 300 characters. [80]
- The notifications list has been split into two lists. As a first step, notifications about messages on your user talk page will be placed in the second list. Feedback is requested at the Echo talk page. [81][82]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 8 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the Wikitech ambassadors mailing list. The list is for Wikimedians interested in spreading information about Wikimedia technology news. See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia mailing lists will be moved to a new server and the software will be upgraded. This will happen on September 9 at 14:00 (UTC). The mailing lists will not be working during the move. It can take up to four hours. [83]
- Wikidata will soon be able to store measurements, such as a mountain's height or the distance between two places. [84][85]
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17:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Deleting user pages
I'm not against your addition to WP:CSD#U5, provided we amend WP:UP#DELETE. The statement there that "Simple use as a personal web page is not in itself a speedy deletion criterion" is no longer true, following the adoption of U5, which was designed mainly to reduce the load at MfD of the flood of Facebook-style user-pages and fantasy reality-show pages by users not otherwise contributing to the encyclopedia. I need to think about what the appropriate new wording should be; perhaps add "...where the user is actively contributing to the encyclopedia (see WP:CSD#U5)"? I will make a proposal at WT:User pages. JohnCD (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think your issue deserves a separate conversation, so please open a discussion. That is to say, even if I hadn't made the change to U5 (which is NOT a change in the criteria itself, only a caution to prevent unintentional mis-application of the existing criteria), both WP:U5 and WP:UP need to be coherent with each other. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)
- (edit conflict) Yes, I agree, my concern is that they should be consistent. I think WP:UP wasn't update when U5 was adopted. Before I saw this reply, I saw your note at WT:CSD and added the same comment there; but I will make an actual proposal at WT:UP when I have decided on a proposed wording. JohnCD (talk) 17:34, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- When you do, please put a cross-notice at WP:CSD. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:49, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Yes, I agree, my concern is that they should be consistent. I think WP:UP wasn't update when U5 was adopted. Before I saw this reply, I saw your note at WT:CSD and added the same comment there; but I will make an actual proposal at WT:UP when I have decided on a proposed wording. JohnCD (talk) 17:34, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
selfref
I thank you for getting rid of the orangemoody project template, but can you please reconsider the hatnote? We aren't linking to the noticeboard archives of AN/I and WP:COIN and friends either, nor to the suggestions-page that User:Doc James is running in userspace, nor to the bangvoting at WT:Administrator... I don't think we need a link to the LTA checkuser-evidence-page, right? If we *do* need that link, it should be in "External" links section, as the 'homepage' of the topic-of-the-article, rather than as a hatnote. But I don't think we need the "external link" any more than I think we need the hatnote. For much the same reasons, I don't think we need the project-template. p.s. If you'd rather, I'm happy to move this request (or have it moved or whatever) over to the talk:orangemoody space. 75.108.94.227 (talk) 21:13, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- @75.108.94.227: I think the "selfref" is very useful in this case but not required by any guideline or policy (nor is it prohibited/recommended-against as far as I know). I will not remove it, I am open to input from others and might withdraw my objection to removal if: the discussion involves at least a handful of people, it is about evenly divided (OR favors removal), and nobody raises a policy/guideline reason that strongly suggests that keeping it is required. I will also withdraw if any editor can point to a guideline/policy/practice that suggests that this hatnote should go and no editor makes an equally-strong counter-argument (this applies even if you and me are the only people in the discussion). So, yes, please start a discussion on Talk:Orangemoody and see what others think. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:39, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Addendum: If you (75.108.94.227) or anyone else reading this can find a policy/guideline/generally-accepted-practice reason why this hatnote "must" go, please delete the hatnote and either put the reason in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Once I see a strong reason like that, I won't put it back without discussion. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:42, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
scchools
If the diocese doesn't have a section on schools, add one. Or redirectto the locality. DGG (at NYPL) -- reply here 16:16, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use the Wikidata query service. [86]
- Belarusian-Taraškievica Wikipedia was moved from be-x-old.wikipedia.org to be-tarask.wikipedia.org. This caused some issues, but most of them were resolved. [87]
- Language preferences might not be changed immediately when you adjust them. Language selection might work slower. Please report any problems. [88][89]
Problems
- There was a problem when editing International Standard Book Numbers in Visual Editor. This has now been fixed. [90]
- The Wikimedia mailing lists should have been upgraded on September 9. It didn't work as planned and will now happen later. [91]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 16. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 17 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 15 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- ContentTranslation will show more data on the Special:ContentTranslationStats page. For example, it will show translation trends and information about deleted translations. [92]
- The first version of the translation suggestions feature will be deployed soon. [93]
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16:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
High School Leagues
I'm writing an essay at User:Trackinfo/sandbox/NHSL on a subject you might have an interest in. Please add your input either to the essay or contact me at my talk page. Trackinfo (talk) 01:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is now an experimental Wikimedia maps service. You can give feedback here. [94][95]
- Last week a few issues with UploadWizard were fixed. Before this was done, UploadWizard would stop you from uploading your files if something went wrong. [96][97][98][99]
- More Wikipedias can now use information from any Wikidata item in any Wikipedia article. Previously they could only use the Wikidata item that matched the subject of the article. [100]
- The VisualEditor welcome dialogue has been changed. The intention is to make it more helpful for new users. [101]
Problems
- Wikimedia Labs' HTTPS certificate expired for most of Tuesday 15 September. To reach Wikimedia Labs and Tool Labs securely you had to ignore your browser's security error message. There was no risk to data security during this time. [102]
- Last week the notification system was split into two parts. This was temporarily undone because of a bug and performance concerns. It will return to two parts this week. [103][104]
- UploadWizard couldn't upload files larger than 5 MB when using chunked uploads. This has now been fixed. [105]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 22. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 23. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 24 (calendar).
- The page move tool has been switched over to the new standard look for forms. [106]
- You can now choose whether to extend a link or not when editing one in VisualEditor. This means it is easier to choose how much of what you type before and after the link is part of it. [107]
- Wikibooks can now use data from Wikidata. [108]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join a meeting with the Wikidata team. It will be on September 23 at 17:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can register to the Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016 in San Francisco 4–6 January 2016. Gadget, template, bot, and tool developers are welcome as well. Call for participation and travel sponsorship requests are open until 2 October.
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18:29, 21 September 2015 (UTC)