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If you don't understand English fully then why add incorrect info to articles in that language? Stadio delle Alpi is still Juventus stadium, they own the lease to it understand?... just because it is having its structure changes does not mean it has disapeared into thin air. Its not their "former" stadium, because that is still their legal home and has been since 1990, it isn't been destroyed, abandoned or having a new club play their... its just having work done.

Stadio Olimpico di Torino is Torino F.C.'s stadium and has been since 1990, it doesn't belong to Juve anymore. Torino are just letting Juventus share while their main stadium delle Alpi has some work down. I've worked very hard on getting the Juventus article to "good article" status and it is currently under review to pass it, its highly frustrating when silly things like this keep popping up because of language misunderstandings and could lead to the article failing the review. - 01:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

List

Notice how on both of those article lists, they look absolutely nothing like what you keep doing to Juventus players list? Neither of those two feature an ugly big quote (which goes against our policy) at the top. Take a look at List of Arsenal F.C. players for an idea of how we do them. - 02:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm quite sure that the quote is real, that is besides the point. Repeat these words slowly to yourself.... quote.. against... standard. 0.. none.. zero of the featured lists which you referenced have a great big quote from one player at the top, this is why Wikiquote was created.

The things which you keep removing from the top of the list, are standard and have templates especially created to fit them. Also.. you seem to be removing players and adding others for no real reason you remove David Platt and add Sergeij Alejnikov when they played for the club around the same ammount of times. Also Paul Arnold Walty is not a notable former player at all set out by the standard, he played four times for one season and has achieved no notabliity outside of that at all.

Also for example with Lucidio Sentimenti and Vittorio Sentimenti... there is no need to add the ugly (IVº) and (IIIº) things after their full names, because they are only used to differentiate the players when just giving the surname, its not essential. - The Daddy 02:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I know what the "I" and the "II" means. I've worked on the Sentimenti family football articles. But it is not needed when the full name of the player is given, it is only for when just a surname is given by itself that it is needed to help differentiate.

For example if the Cannavaro brothers played for the same team today, they would have "F. Cannavaro" and "P. Cannavaro" on their shirts, but when their full name (first and second) is given then no further information needs to be provided to help differentiate. Its the same situation with the "I" and "II".

Domenico Donna could maybe pass notability, but I don't see why Walty or Alejnikov should... its not as if Walty was a founding player. If every player that was ever part of a Juventus squad which won a trophy was added to the list then it would be endless. - The Daddy 02:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Juventus Ultras

The article has some part which need to be sourced, as they are potentially non-neutrals (e.g., claims of "most important ultras group" among the Juve fans), in any case I marked them all. Some copyedit is necessary, as it is clear the article was not written by a native English speaker ("knowned" instead of "known" is probably the most impressive example). --Angelo 20:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

grammatics

Hello, please note that this sentence is not grammatically correct in the English languages, "..sixth in the world with the most international titles officially recognized...". The with part in bold is incorrect wording because it makes this sound like Juventus have the most international titles, period. I think the other wording which I put in makes it clearer, more correct and better. Thanks - Meddi (talk) 09:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Also Torino is never part of the clubs name and the club never uses that. - Meddi (talk) 01:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

International Federation of Football History & Statistics

On the Juventus page this is pointless and not a balanced overview of the club's history. First of all its not official, second of all it does not give anymore valuable information than is already given. It is showed in the opening ...

All-time: Juventus has the 6th most international titles, making them over a weighted period of history, currently 6th all-time.

IFFHS: this only shows stats from 1991 to present, the stats are not complete so what is the point in using them, when it is already asserted earlier in the opening that Juventus are historically one of the most successful clubs in the entire world.

IFFHS is recentist as it does not cover the whole history and so not relevent in a historic balanced overview of the club, especially for an introduction about the club. I hope you can see this way. - Meddi (talk) 19:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Uefa Cup

Hi Dante. Look, I don´t say that Rsssf.com is above the Uefa´s source. I only say that in comparison to the Fadiga´s sources, the Rsssf one is completely superior to thouse not serious sources. It´s obvious that i´m agree with you that only the UEFA´s source must be the first one in this discussion, and we are agree in the fact of separate Uefa Cup with Fairs Cup.

Your regards, --Ultracanalla (talk) 00:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

This doesn't bode well for your case Ultracanela, soliciting other editors in Spanish because you can't behave on the English wikipedia properly. MickMacNee (talk) 00:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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Boca Juniors

Hi Dante, I just saw that you moved the Boca Juniors article to Club Atlético Boca Juniors, and I was wondering if you cared to read the discussion page of the article before you decided to move it?. Regards --Bocafan76 (talk) 21:04, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

My understanding is that it did lead to a consensus, and the article was moved from Club Atlético Boca Juniors to Boca Juniors, also is my believe that if a previous moved was discuss, this moved should had been discuss also. Regards--Bocafan76 (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

International club competition records

Alright, I sent the administrator Todd the request to add in the table. By the way, aren't you the dude with the youtube channel? --MicroX (talk) 00:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

He didn't answer me or do anything. I'll try again. --MicroX (talk) 18:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Latin Cup

http://es.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1012311.html

This resolves all your doubts. As you can read in Spanish; FIFA considers that Di Stefano scored 307 official goals in Real Madrid, TWO OF THEM in Latin Cup. There's no doubt, FIFA official site considers Latin Cup an official competition as it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cid Campeador3 (talk • contribs) 01:29, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

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See here for reference. The Intercontinental Cup was clearly not a world championship. This has come from numerous times by FIFA and they gave their reasons (very valid ones at that). For example, the Afro-Asian Championship could also claimed to be a world championship just for having two confederations coming together. Seeing the above information, and the little relevance in having this, I propose this list be deleted.

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The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

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Talk:Intercontinental Cup (football)

Why not start a thread and work it out there? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:03, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

I started it: Talk:Intercontinental Cup (football)#De facto world champions. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:08, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Runner-up honours

These are perfectly acceptable, please do not remove them from club or player articles again. GiantSnowman 20:42, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Yep, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Clubs#Honours where it states that "Achievements of the club including wins and second places." GiantSnowman 20:39, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Intertoto

Greetings,

I saw the two changes you did for Atlético and Deportivo for 2007 and 2008 respectively. Although you are right, they were not outright champions of UIC those two years, there was actually none. They were regional competitions and each Atlético and Deportivo each became the champions for their respective regions, earning this way each a spot in the UEFA Championship. Later, based on averages, an "titular" champions was calculated. Yet, from 2006 to 2008, those 3 years, there were 11 Regional UIC champions each, Atlético and Deportivo being two of the 33 Regional champions. Thanks for your regard on this matter.--Coquidragon (talk) 04:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

No, I'm not wrong. Read the articles for the 2007 and 2008 UIC tournaments on this wiki, which are well documented, or even the general Intertoto article. If you need external reference, here is the link to UIC at UEFA.com. Please look at the dropdown box for Previous seasons winners. You'll see both Atlético and Deportivo. Here is the Link. You say that "UEFA made it clear in its rules for the last 3 editions who was proclaimed champion." Yes, the last three seasons of UIC had 11 champions/winners each. Of the 11 teams, that team which progressed the further in the UEFA championship was declared a posteriori the outright winner, but only titular champion. It is well documented. My "regional" label was misused, since they were the winners of the third round of the tournament. I apologize for the misunderstanding.--Coquidragon (talk) 10:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

With your last message, I see where are you coming from. You only count the team that got the trophy. Yes, they are the champions. What I am trying to communicate is that although there was one outright champion (per discussed rules), there were 11 winners. Here I leave you the profile for Atlético de Madrid at UEFA.com. Although they don't have the trophy for 2007, please see how in the list of honours, it does list UIC 2007. They were winners of UIC. Thanks for your consideration on this matter.--Coquidragon (talk) 00:26, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

(I've copied our exchange on the talk for the page in question for historical purposes. We can continue the exchange there.)--Coquidragon (talk) 00:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

International honours

I don't see the point of removing international runners-up when they are more than the wins. SLBedit (talk) 23:33, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

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Football records in Spain

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Football records in spain

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Juve titles

Are you including the one Serie B title, or is that not counted? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 20:30, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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kicker Sportmagazin club ranking

Kinda uncomfortable to ask for this at Wikipedia, but are you able to show the source of Kicker's all-time club ranking that you mentioned while reverting my edit? Thanks Виктор Не Вацко (talk) 17:08, 8 June 2017 (UTC+2)

BRD

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I urge you to use the sources you stated at the Juve talk page in conjunction with what the other user wrote in order to balance both sides. The POV template is not needed if this info is there. I think they have points that this controversy did occur so it could be talked about, but you seem to know the facts better and understand Italian better than me. Please add this info. Thank you. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 00:05, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

That ought to be a matter for the article talk pages. Stating that here excludes others who watch the article.Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:48, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: I've already stated my opinion there and WT:FOOTY. This was a direct message to Dante as he was the one who unnecessarily added POV templates to the articles. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 00:59, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Please avoid revert wars. Use the talk pages. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:48, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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