User talk:Crzrussian/Archive 16

merge and delete

I haev a theory about why people put merge and delete in AfDs, based on my own experience getting to know the black art that is Articles for Deletion. There are, of course, common misconceptions about how the GFDL requires back history on all submissions, and this frequently conflicts in the minds of the uninitiated with the way merge is interpreted by default as a 'keep' (or at the least, not a 'delete') by closers. I've taken to adding "Do not keep as a separate article" to my merge votes just to make my intent clear after seeing several AfDs go the opposite way from what I expected. I don't know what the solution is, since merge/redirect/cleanup are technically outside the scope of AfD, but... my two cents. -- nae'blis _(talk) 17:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm just happening upon this discussion, but I've argued several times for merge and delete's being a valid formulation, consistent with the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Merge and delete and Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves, but the latter, for one, seems to require more work than it's worth. In any case, at your suggestion (and consistent with what I, myself, was already inclined to do), I removed my co-nom from Yanksox' (or "Yanksox's" for those who are fans of the MLA—which, of course, opposes text justification and is, therefore, crazy) RfA. Joe 01:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:Pokémon on the Wii

I would put it on AfD, but the whole article is a copy from Pokémon, sectioned under Pokémon#Pokémon on the Wii. The article was created by another user in an odd attempt to cut down article size. I moved the criticism section to a sub-article, which removed 8kb from the size, but I don't see the point of moving one paragraph. If you could speedy it, it would be deeply appreciated. Cheers, Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 20:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Pardon? It's a paragraph copied out of an article. Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 20:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Misza13's pile!

Thank you for contributing the impressive the pile of supports gathered on my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 0x0104/0x01/0x00. I'm happy that so many people have put faith in my abilities as an admin and promise to use the tools wisely and do my best not to let you down. If I ever may be of assistance, just leave a note on my talk page. Misza13, the rouge-on-demand admin wishes you happy editing! NOTE: This message has been encrypted with the sophisticated ROT-26 algorithm. Ability to decipher it indicates a properly functioning optical sensor array.

AAAAH!

I'm getting lonely, do you know anyone I can talk to, your the only person that knows I exist probably! *weeps* Legolost 20:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Yanksox

Do you know what that grey stats box is doing on Yanksox's RfA. It's got stats from 3 June and some people think he's only been editing for 2 months! (He started his account February 5, 2006.) Tyrenius 22:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Re : AfD/Muhammad Muhsin Khan

Opppppsssssss, how did I do that. :P Perhaps it's the result of closing AfDs in the wee hours of the morning. Anyway, I've fixed it. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 08:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC) ;)

• Heehehe... :D - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 13:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Delete my page?

The Galaxship is a project that I am currently working on. Do you have proof it doesn't exist?

Aliud

Hi! >I must ask, where is the material from? It reads in places as if it was copied from an academic paper - and I > fear there may be copyright issues here. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think there are copyright issues. I wrote this as part of a University exam. Of course I got the information here and there, but I always give the references to the sources and I did never cut and paste. Purposedly I did not upload but a single image, over which I am sure there is no copyright, because I generated it, starting from one of the many similar versions that have been known for over 200 years. Aliud 19:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)aliud

Consensus at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CheNuevara

You might notice people dropping by these days who are looking at the current Requests for adminship process with some surprise. The way requests for adminship works has apparently changed over the last 6 months again, to the point where people have difficulty in grasping how the process works. I suppose it'd be best if someone actually figures out what's up. :-)

The Requests for Adminship page is still officially a consensus finding procedure, fortunately. This means that it is permitted and in fact even encouraged to ask questions to gauge consensus.

I hope that covers what I'm doing enough to reduce your worries a bit. Will this be ok?

If you still think aspects of what I'm doing are wrong somehow, would you care to explain your reasoning? Communication is important when you're trying to come to some compromise, and if you wish to alter a persons' behaviour. Kim Bruning 19:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Requests for adminship was designed as a guided process for finding consensus. People have traditionally not been entitled to anything, and especially and explicitly they are not entitled to vote. My questions are a tad brief, because I have little time these days, and I respect other peoples possible lack of time also.

I hope you understand that I'm not asking people questions in bad faith. I do expect or hope to establish polite communications with each and every person I've reached out to.

On wikipedia there is no right of free speech, and therefore it would be very hard to curtail mine any further. There does exist a duty to maintain process, and there are attendant rights attached to that (including a right to seek consensus towards making a better encyclopedia, with the attached right to question people about their reasoning.)

I am currently looking into the requests for adminship process and trying to decide if it is still viable, so it's very important for me to communicate with as many people about it as possible.

Kim Bruning 20:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Punjabi Prison match

It really should be recreated seeing as people know what it is now. Thanks, User:Clay4president

Rude?

I would tend to think so..."buddy"[1]--MONGO 12:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

That's what I figured...best wishes.--MONGO 15:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

username

It actually comes from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series of books, where it's a title for "second in command", sort of. It's been my handle/e-mail online for a long time, both as a reminder that I'm not in charge, and not to be so self-effacing. I find it a nice compromise... -- nae'blis _(talk) 15:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Warren Kinsella

My recusal comes from the fact that I have long had close dealings with some of the people involved. Outside of Wikipedia I also have strong views and a long historey of involvement in Canadian politics, and do not want to be seen to be in a conflict of interest situation. - SimonP 15:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Why was the Punjabi Prison Match article deleted?

Why? It happened last night!

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Punjabi Prison Match - CrazyRussian talk/email 20:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

All those comments weremade before it happened.

So list it at WP:DRV - CrazyRussian talk/email 20:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Gerontech

Thanks for your help in getting this new stub organized --Gerontech 21:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand why Gerontech's web site is considered as "self promotional" On the same token, so are most of the others. Gerontech is a NPO and public institution.

Gerontech 06:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Catamorphism's RfA

Oppose mostly on userpage. Similar reasons to my vote at RfA/Joturner2 - user espouses very controversial beliefs and is a quite bit aggressive about it. And zere it iz! lol - CrazyRussian talk/email 22:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Just to clarify, the votes are similar, but that is not to say that Joturner "espouses controversial beliefs" - there the situation had to do with his non-controversial religious beliefs. - CrazyRussian talk/email 11:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Um... no comment. Out of curiousity, do you think my userpage is still a problem? -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 12:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey JT. Userpage is a lot better - and you've been great under fire. In retrospect, had I supported your RfA2 I would not have regretted having done so, and I'll be happy to support you in RfA3. I saw your name in a few controversial places, and you were espousing thoughtful and refreshingly non-partisan views, which made me feel good. What's with the username, dude? Tariq from JoTu? :) - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

So you think you might get into Stanford? How's the SAT situation? You're an exceptionally bright kid - and it'll help to be black, too. - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't realize ab meant from. That's actually, like Jo and Tu, the first two letters of a name (Abbas). But, I suppose Tariq from JoTu works perfectly fine as well. Regarding Stanford, I know getting into Stanford is tough for anyone, no matter how intelligent one may be. I'd have to say I'm satisfied with the SAT situation and the place I'm working now and during the school year. Apparently Xoloz has some confidence too. Perhaps being black may help, but I honestly hope people don't capitalize on that (I know you didn't mean any harm). I remember this intelligent black student last year got accepted to MIT and well... he got the affirmative action flack from so many people. But then he went off to MIT, letting them be bitter all with their lonesomes. I predict a similar kind of reaction will be directed towards me, regardless of what happens in my college application process. But frankly, I've heard enough black sheep, oreo, derka, derka, Muhammad jihad jokes to not really care any more. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 15:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

"Tariq ab JoTu" (see the first line of [2]). Therein lies the biggest problem with affirmative action in education and employment - those racial minorities who are perfectly capable of getting in / getting hired on their own merits are commingled by everyone with those that were "pulled up by their ears", to quote a Russian saying, and that doesn't help one bit. As for the "oreo" stuff, that is beyond disgusting. If anyone said that to me, I would truly clock them, and I advise you do same. - CrazyRussian talk/email 16:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh noes ZOMG!!1! Xoloz wants to gently {{prod}} you?! Strong Keep! </psychosis> - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

If I'm correct, you just suggested I punch those who insult me... sounds almost as bad as attacking those who draw cartoons. And then you followed that with a... um... not sure what exactly that's supposed to mean (a request to accept Xoloz's offer?). Well, either way... that explains the crazy. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 17:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I see... perhaps I would have understood better if we were talking about MIT; I here going there is like being deleted. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 17:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Votes for deletion (2nd nomination)

While I disagree with you about "cross-namespace redirects are not allowed" (there is no such policy), I'd like to ask why you chose to recreate articles for deletion as {{deletedpage}}. Now it appears that a page with this title exists (as it is a blue link) and people will accidentally link to it and not notice that it does not lead where they think it will lead. I can understand if you choose to delete the "article" or the cross-namespace redirect, but the only guideline that exists against cross-space redirects is WP:ASR. Now {{deletedpage}} is also a self-reference. In replacing a cross-space redirect with {{deletedpage}}, we have replaced a useful self-reference with a useless one. How is this an improvement? Please re-examine your decision and at least delete the pages. Or check out Wikipedia:Cross-namespace redirects where some people are at last discussing the question of a policy about this topic. Thank you, and happy editing, Kusma (討論) 19:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Paliouria translation

Hello. I am checking the text right now. Thanks for making a notice at the Agora of the Greek Wikipedia. --dead3y3 19:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Translation is finished. Please check, as I am not doing well when it comes to prepositions. --dead3y3 21:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Eluchil404's RfA

Thank you for taking the time to express an opinion in my recent request for adminship. I have withdrawn my self-nomination because there seemed little prospect for further productive discussion or the formation of a consensus to promote. Many commentators offered constructive critisism that I will use to improve myself as a user. Others suggested that the nomination was premature and that a re-nom in a few months would be more likely to gain consensus. Thank you very much for your kind comment in the RfA. It is certainly gratifying to have users you respect recognise your work as good. I knew going into the RfA that I probably didn't meet your standards, but hopefully in any future RfA in 3 or so months time I will reach what is probably the gold standard of RfA candidates and merit a support for you. Happy editing! Eluchil404 20:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Articles for deletion. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. Haukur 21:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Closure comment

Closure comments are great, naturally, but this one says that cross-namespace redirects are not allowed. They are, of course, it's just that certain types of them are disliked by certain editors and WP:ASR suggests they be avoided where possible. Putting blanket statements like that in a closure can sometimes result in less-experienced users taking them as a form of gospel, so some precision can help avoid that. Thanks, Splash - tk 01:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Right back at you

As many nominees do when they pass, I have prepared a box! Because you posted first, you get the box first, I hope you like it.

Thank you so much for voting in my recent RFA. It passed on the relatively narrow vote of 38/8/8. It was also one of the least-participated-in RFA nominations in several months, so pat yourself on the back, and join the party on your left, but first, take your cookie! NOTE: I can't code HTML to save my life. I copied this from Misza13. I guess I should write him a thank you note as well. Cookies sold separately. Batteries not included. Offer not valid with other coupons. May contain peanuts or chicken. Keep out of the reach of small children, may present a choking hazard to children under the age of 3. Do not take with alcohol. This notice has a dark background and therefore may be eaten by a grue at any time. The receiver of this message, hereafter referred to as "Pudding Head" relinquishes all rights and abilities to file a lawsuit or any other litigious activities. RyanGerbil10, Jimbo Wales, and the states of Georgia, North Dakota and Wisconsin are not liable for any lost or stolen items or damage from errant shopping carts.

Thanks, and good luck yourself. RyanGerbil10(The people rejoice!) 03:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Antoine Howard

Sorry, I thought the article had been saved. I didn't mean any harm by placing that tag on the page. --Hector 16:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi there! Um...just wanted to say hi!

WB 61

First, I blanked it because, say, there's no WB 54 link for WNUV. This was an unneeded redirect. -TrackerTV 17:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

tovarisch

hey there just responded to [[3]]

all the best, JJJJ211219 20:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Proposed AfD notice

Hi, I am contacting you since you are an admin who is typically (moderately? heavily?) involved in AfD. I have drafted a notice that I propose we add right at the top of the AfD page. I hope to start some discussion about it. Clearly, with the number of "re-listings" and listings that never should have been there to begin with, we need to take steps to educate editors about their other options. Would you please review and comment, if time allows? Thanks, --Aguerriero (talk) 20:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• I've created two templates, Template:CSD-Tip and Template:PROD-Tip. The implementation method is similiar to the {{relist}} template. I've implemented this in today's AfDs; let me know what do you think. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 11:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Too many nominations

We're getting too many nominations for the ORBCOTW. Maybe the limit should be raised to 4 or even 5 votes, and/or the period of voting should be shortened. Things are becoming very confusing this way. --Daniel575 20:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

complementarity and complement goods

Hi. Please check my posts on the discussion page for complementarity and see what you think. Thanks

Tatum Reed bio deletion?

I am Tatum Reed and I read through all of the guidelines and see no reason for my bio page to be deleted. I was alerted that the page has been deleted. I have been in the San Francisco Chronicle, I have two websites, I have appeared in films, I have podcasts and a blog.

Could you please tell me why the proper research wasn't done to verify me?

tatum.reed@gmail.com

typo

Thanks for pointing out that typo on my RFA I have fixed it, it was meant to say AFD's not RFA's. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 03:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Also wanted to let you know that I have expanded on my answers to the questions and have responded to several questions added by other users as well. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 04:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Beit Hamikdash article

Hi Crz: Please read the attached request I received . Thank you. IZAK 08:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Need administrator help in Temple in Jerusalem

Hi Izak,

A user by the name of Biblical1 has completely rewritten the Temple in Jerusalem article multiple times, presenting some rather speculatve views of a few contemporary thinkers as objective fact and scholarly consensus. At this point, would it be possible for you or some other administrator to freeze the page and guide a discussion on the Talk page? Thanks, --Shirahadasha 04:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• Hi Shirahadasha: Thanks for contacting me. I am not an admin, but I will bring your message to the attention of others who may be able to help you. It is also very ironic and sad that on the eve of Tisha B'Av that this needs to be dealt with. Sincerely, IZAK 07:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

need immediate help

On Sanhedrin. Check the history and the talk pages of me and User talk:Historian2. Also compare User:Historian2 with User:Biblical1 and what he did on article Temple Mount. I need your attention here. --Daniel575 11:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Crzrussian and AmiDaniel Before anyone "unprotect"s the page and allow editing to continue, per wikipedia rules you should allow us to work out a text on the the talk pages first. Here is the guideline I was following for reversing Daniel575's edits.

3RR Rules: Reverting potentially libellous material. All users are encouraged to remove unsourced or poorly sourced derogatory information about living persons, whether within a biography of a living person or elsewhere, including the associated talk pages. As with vandalism, the repeated addition of such material is best dealt with by blocking and page protection. The three-revert rule does not apply to users making a good-faith effort to enforce this provision, whether they are involved in editing the articles themselves or not. Historian3 18:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Nukular fire

I saw somebody use it once. Yomangani 15:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

my RfA

Thanks for your opinions in my RfA. Ultimately, the request did not pass, with a vote of (43/16/7). But your honest opinion was appreciated and I'll just keep right on doing what I do. Maybe I'll see ya around -- I'll be here!
Cheers! - CheNuevara 17:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Dear Alex

Dear Alex, I just noticed that you deleted your userpage - is everything ok, hun? Please, feel free to mail me if you prefer not to talk about it here, k?
One more thing, remember that AfD you asked me to review? (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buggin Malone) I wanted to tell you that I messaged ESkog, since he was the closing admin. Let me cross-post my message to him for you:

Dear ESkog, a few days ago you closed the AfD debate I linked above, pending to my promise of a deeper research on the subject's notability. After digging deeper into it, I have reached the conclusion that it fails to meet the criteria detailed at WP:MUSIC. To the many correct reasons expressed by several editors at the debate (little significance of the award he received, unavailability of his works at major stores, etc.), I must also add a complete lack of notability and knowledge among the vast majority of Native American communities in the U.S., as well as little or no importance in such musical scene. I went as far as to ask to a friend of mine who runs a space on Native American music at a major radio station [4] to look into it, but to no avail: nobody has heard of him, not to mention his complete absence in terms of airing. It is for these reasons that I recommend to keep this article deleted, unless further information that escapes my knowledge could be provided; or the subject's notability increases, of course! :)

So that issue is closed, at least for the moment. I hope you're doing fine - please let me know if I can help you in any way. Hugs, Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 19:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Why was my page deleted?

Hi, the wikipedia page Nova_Spivack was deleted but I don't understand the reason why. Is the user page for "Nova Spivack" accessible to the public in the body of the wikipedia just like any other node? If yes, then I understand the redundancy and the deletion makes sense. But if my user page is something that can only be seen by other registered users, and is not in the same class are regular wikipedia articles, then I disagree with the deletion. Perhaps the problem is that my username was not made cryptic enough and so my userpage has the same characters in it as the article about me that I wanted to add? If that is the problem, can it be fixed (by changing my username)? If that is not the problem, then can you explain?

Thanks for your reply. I am a bit confused as to what criteria was used to decide that my bio page was "insufficiently notable." For example, there are other pages such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_Hoffman that contain less information but were somehow judged as notable enough. It seems rather arbitrary to me. Novaspivack 01:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks -- that helps explain it. Novaspivack 01:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)