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Hi, Crisco 1492. I'm just posting to let you know that List of works by Kwee Tek Hoay – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for October 4. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 01:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Jennings wrote this

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So that FAC will not be flooded with this, ill moved it here. Just in case you still don't understand what I rewrote, I will put what she wrote at the book:

Rather than an empowering opportunity to take on an active feminine role, this agentic setup is perhaps instead a way to pacify the anxieties that heterosexual men may experience when playing as and identifying with a sexualized woman. Lara’s exaggerated sexuality and agency serve masculine pleasures. In this way, Carr argued, the objectifying gaze that the game design anticipates and fosters would constrain the potentials for players to experience their embodiment of Lara as a transgressive gender performance.

But what I contend is that feminine gaze may operate as a reframing of Ada’s sexualization to generate a meaningful experience of play—especially for women-identifying players. Gazing through, with, and at Ada as a woman—or as a practiced feminine gazer—proliferates opportunities for experiencing her chapter as a transgressive gender performance that effectively critiques and condemns traditional patriarchal power structures. What interests me are the ways that players may concurrently build on and appropriate designed representations, mechanics, and structures in the processes of identification and play.

Ada and RE6 also illustrate the intersectional potentials of feminine gaze, while demonstrating the sticky negotiations of representation and play. It is significant that Ada is one of the few multiracial characters in the franchise, but it is unfortunate that the games do little to develop and, in fact, largely whitewash her Chinese-American identity. As with most details of her past and personal background, Ada divulges nothing to other Resident Evil characters or to players about her racial identity. Consequently, the game only codes Ada’s race according to her physical appearance and through settings in the United States and China that appear to implicate her cultural heritage.

Or should I remove everything and focus on her conclusion on page 251? She said

The concluding scene of Ada’s chapter shows her destroying Carla’s research and evidence of her existence as Ada’s clone. As the laboratory is engulfed in flames, Ada receives a call for a new job from her unrevealed employers. She leaves the scene unpunished, unscathed, triumphant—though, nevertheless, visibly shaken by what she has encountered. Still, despite the trauma that she has endured, Ada retains her indomitable selfhood as she strides from the room to take on her next contract. Ada’s chapter demonstrates the possibilities of feminine gaze. Players learn to take on feminine gaze by playing as Ada—they engage in a praxis that they can adopt through their identification with Ada. Moreover, the game invites players to play with femininity through their embodiment of Ada, subverting

So Sorry about this. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 04:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Edited your comment for legibility (there were a lot of line breaks).
Okay, User:Boneless Pizza!, so she offers a lot to unpack - looks like an interesting read. I see that the write-up of her chapter has been expanded since I made my comment, potentially to the point of WP:WEIGHT issues. What about "Stephanie Jennings argued in Feminism in Play that Ada's sexualization is reframed to enhance meaning in play, with her chapter in Resident Evil 6 offering a "transgressive gender performance that effectively critiques and condemns traditional patriarchal power structures". Ada's presence as one of the series' few multiracial characters, she opined, demonstrates the intersectional potential of the feminine gaze, albeit without exploration of her racial identity." — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
It reads good. I'll replace it now. Thank you! 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 09:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Crisco 1492 hey again. Iwas wonderibg where you go this image [1]. Everytime if I cite fandom as a source, it shows dead to someone. So, I probably beed to replace it. Thank you! 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 11:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Hi Boneless Pizza!, I think I fixed the links (I also cited the PC port of RE2, as that's where the images I linked came from). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks a lot for the help! 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 12:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Hey again Chris. I'll just mention another user here since its kinda odd to copypaste it again hehe. Hey Aoba47, I just brought you up here since this part has been rewritten several times by reviewers and I had no idea what would be the best way to revise it maybe like Andrei Nae also, so I would give you the word of quote that she said. So sorry both of you; this kind wording is too broad for us to understand as a non-native speaker. As per Nae, it was written like this at the book:

    The not-yet hypermasculinity of Leon S. Kennedy is also reflected in the game’s scripted narrative whose approach to gender is indebted to noir cinema. The game’s two main female characters, Ashley Graham and Ada Wong correspond to the submissive woman-femme fatale character couple. While Leon’s authority over Ashley is never contested as she obeys him throughout the entire game, Ada Wong is the femme fatale whose disobedience of patriarchy demands regulation. However, contrary to the conventions of noir cinema and in synch with Leon S. Kennedy’s incomplete hypermasculinity, Ada remains outside the ambit of the male protagonist’s authority

    . Again apologize, especially to the owner of the talk page. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 20:49, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Hi Boneless Pizza!. No worries about dropping the blurbs here – makes me feel like I'm back in grad school. How does he define hypermasculinity? That would affect how we read his argument. Hypermasculinity as defined in our article... I can see an argument, but even then, Leon remained respectful and close to his emotions even through RE6, as he became increasingly jaded.
    In lay terms, though, he's arguing that Ada's unwillingness to be controlled by Leon was part of how the game defined Leon's masculinity. Rather than learn to listen to him, she remains out of his control, and thus subverted the tropes that it borrows from. I'll look at Aoba's comments on the nomination page to get a better understanding of what the discussion is about. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Okay, looking at Aoba's comments, I don't think there was much about the content per se, but rather how it's presented. There's some good points in there. As for fixing them... for the "appeal" comment, I'd personally use "reflect" or "draw on". As for "opined", as I wrote the sentence above, I can fiddle with it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Thank you! I'll admit that the reception section isn't friendly enough for a non-native writer, lol. I'll attempt to fix the others later since I'm editing rb during night time, but thank you for fixing what Jennings' wrote. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 21:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Oh, I get that. It took me a long time before I was comfortable with reception sections – and I'm a native speaker of English! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
    The word "appeal" was already replaced into "conform" and already dealt the repetition of Femme Fatale (except at the end of paragraph, which I struggle to rewrite and turn it into past tense). Pinging JokEobard as this is the only issue remaining and the repetition of femme fatale as well due to this. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 22:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
 
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Pronunciation of Chrisye

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I took part in the GA review of the Chinese Wikipedia article of the same name and got into a debate with another editor who has some knowledge of transliterations - particularly French ones. He argued that Chrisye sounds like "H-ri-share" in Indonesian, which more or less matches the IPA pronunciation shown in the English article, and that the title of the article should be based on his hypothesis. However, my research on Youtube suggested otherwise. Almost every clip I found that mentioned his name pronounced it "Kris-ye", with the final e being a schwa. I wonder if I have hearing problems or if the transliteration in the English article, which has been around since at least 2012, is wrong.

BTW it failed GAR a few days ago - here you need six votes to get an article to GA status, and comments can be quite damaging - but if I'm still interested enough in Wikipedia, I might get it to GA status within two years... --Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 01:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Hi Spring Roll Conan, you hearing is not off – the letters ch are pronounced the same as kh in Indonesian (though unlike many examples, this one is from Dutch rather than Arabic; earlier transliteration systems used ch for words such as akhir [was achir; end]). Or, in other words, there is a k sound; it's just aspirated, giving an h sound at the end of the cluster. According to Help:IPA/Malay, that makes it written as x in IPA, which is what we have in the Chrisye article in English. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:07, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply