Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #5 edit

The October issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

1933 AHS FAC edit

Just a heads up, I recently finished adding a lot of info to each storm in the 1933 AHS by using newspaper reports, per your objection. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hurricane Carrie (1957) edit

Your article on Hurricane Carrie (1957) is currently a Stub-Class hurricane article, and is being proposed for a merge. If you wish to to keep the article, you should state your thoughts on the article's talk page, or consider expanding the article. Hurricanehink (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Extratropical cyclones edit

So it's only latitude? Nothing else whatsoever? Adam Cuerden talk 20:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Right. Will have a readthrough in the morning - too sleepy now to take things in. Adam Cuerden talk 20:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Atmospheric levels/motion edit

I was hoping that you might give a breif review to pseudo article I've started/part-written in my userspace as per the entry I left about missing important terms/subjects on the meteorology project talk page. Not review it to give it a grade you understand - just for structure and factual accuracy with a view to moving it into article space for further work? If you could it would be great. --Crimsone 19:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Red rain in Kerala edit

I was looking forward to this PR myself, but it seems nobody is interested in commenting on the topic. Not a single comment yet...--thunderboltz(Deepu) 08:29, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I know this is very late, but I stumbled across this request while looking for something else on the PR page and left some comments, if you're still interested in the article. Too bad nobody responded earlier. Opabinia regalis 04:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Er, I've been even later. But send me a message please if anything comes up as a result of BBC Horizon's programmes about pandemics and panspermia. From my perspective there seems to be sense in leaving the page pretty much as it is for the time being. Davy p 03:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Image:TD82006atlantic.gif edit

I have tagged this for deletion as one of several predictive tracks for storms which are now over. I assume you do not require it kept for its use in User:CrazyC83/Helene06? Also Image:5day track 09L 2006.gif which is used on User:CrazyC83/Isaac06 --Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 16:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Maurice Vellacott edit

Are you certain that Vellacott's a Mennonite? I've heard that he's worked at both Mennonite and Baptist churches. CJCurrie 22:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: 2004 storms still at Start: reanalysis edit

Primarily, they all need sourcing before they get to B class. Given that they were all low to no impact storms, the storm history needs much more emphasis, and much more info. Use Tropical Weather Outlooks and the discussions to add to all of them. Here's a little assessment for each storm.

  • Danielle- Needs more SH and sources, as mentioned above. Were there any records associated with the hurricane? Maybe rename Impact to Impact, Naming, and Records, depending on if there is info.
  • Earl- Needs more preparations (especially for Florida) and impact. Try a thorough Google search, and possibly check the newspaper archives for anything.
  • Hermine- It mainly needs more length. Elaborate on the storm history with TWO's and discussions. There's probably more info; maybe on Bermuda. A google search should get some more US impact, or maybe NCDC.
  • Karl- Expand storm history, check if there is any impact (swells), and add records (if there are any).
  • Lisa- Again, storm history, and you should write the records section into prose. BTW, it became a hurricane pretty far north (39 degrees north). Is that a record for October?

All in all, sources and more info. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Have you tried adding info from the tropical weather outlooks and the discussions? That should be more than enough to fill up the storm history. The way I got all 2003 storms to B class or higher was to work one storm at a time. I got all of the information I could quickly find together, then did a thorough search through Google and the newspaper archive. Another thing to consider, having spacing doesn't make articles look bigger. Having two long paragraphs will probably look longer than 5 short paragraphs, such as in Tropical Storm Earl. Don't forget about adding records and trivia, particularly to storm history but add a records section if enough exists. Or, you could have an Impact, Records, and Naming section, which shouldn't be that hard to fill (nth time the name was used, Hermine was the 8th of the record-breaking August 2004, etc.) Again, every last sentence needs to be sourced with {{tl:cite web}}. I would help, but I'm not quite finished with 2003 AHS (Isabel and Juan still need to be redone to some extend). Good luck. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Earl looks pretty good. I would raise that to B class, but I still think there should be more from the TWO's and the discos. The second paragraph, with the uncertainty in its future, would work really well in the preparations section to give it some length. The impact is still a bit short; were there any unusual statistics on the storm? For example, what was the last storm to hit the southern Lesser Antilles? Maybe mention the Caribbean graveyard (how many storms have dissipated upon entering the eastern Caribbean in August) - numbers would be good, but that means some research. A little grammar thing: try and use active voice more. Was passing and would cross would flow so much better if they were passed and crossed. Remember, it is all in the past tense. Danielle is OK, but now has some new problems that prevents it from being B class. It needs to use the active voice. Some places go into too much detail, while others don't specify enough. Examples; when did it move off the coast of Africa? What favorable conditions allowed it to develop? Again, use all the available info from TWO's and discos. If there's info there that's not in the article, add it. Could you add some distances? Just reading it, I'm not positive where the storm is in relation to other things. Reorganize the paragraphs to remove some of the spacing. Try expanding the Impact, etc. section, with whatever you can find. Good luck with the others, and keep trying, I guess. Hurricanehink (talk) 05:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

They're better, clearly, and good work. I would've done it differently, though. I'm sorry to say this, but now there might be too much storm history. You should aim for three or four paragraphs for the longer-lived ones. Include the important stuff, nix the useless stuff, and combine sentence for better reading. Here's one way to do it easily. Look at the track map, and determine where good points would be to have a paragraph. For Lisa, maybe have one from TW moving off of Africa to development to TD, the next from TD to its first peak, the next for its merger with the disturbance, and the last one for becoming a hurricane to dissipation. I had an idea; rather than having an "Impact, Naming, and Records" section, simply have a Statistics section with relavent info outside of the storm history. They look B class, maybe, but you should get someone else's opinion. I'm horrible with assessment; my standards are way too high. So, I'm not going to raise them to B class because they're not quite done. I'm sorry I can't help more... Hurricanehink (talk) 03:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Just so you know, you're not supposed to assess your own articles. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Just so ya know... edit

I added Surface weather analysis as a Good article nominee, in case you want to check it out. -Runningonbrains 18:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

How could the Tropical Cyclone Project override the Meteorology project? edit

Their themes are overlapping. Meteorology mentions specific weather events are its aim. I would imagine that a specific article should be grouped with all relevant topics, in case someone searches by subject. Enlighten me here. Thegreatdr 10:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Is there a way to get wikipedia to recognize this when they list articles by topic, with hurricane being listed as a subdirectory of the meteorology project? Right now, for instance, if you look for FA articles in meteorology, none of the hurricane FAs show up. I would like permission to add back the flood box in the Camille talk page, as Camille was a significant flooding event for Virginia. There is precedent for a pair/trio of headings in an article. Thegreatdr 18:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Assessment calendar edit

I'm a little confused as to what it is. Does it show the date that an article was created, with color for its current class? -Runningonbrains 06:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Gotcha. You're right that is useful...thanks for the heads up on that. -Runningonbrains 15:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Question on Tornado Outbreak page edit

I saw the edits you made to the Twin Cities Tornado Outbreak of 1965 page, changing it to that name from May 1965 Tornado Outbreak Sequence. That was the right move, but I just noticed that on the List of tornadoes and tornado outbreaks page, it has a link the 'Sequence' page, with a description of an outbreak of tornadoes over several days across the upper midwest. So it looks like that's where the 'Sequence' title came from in the first place, but when the article got created it only focused on the tornadoes in Minnesota that day. Is there a way to flush the May 1965 Tornado Outbreak Sequence page so it points to an uncreated article instead of redirecting to the Twin Cities Outbreak page? Or should we just forget about the tornadoes on other days since most of the activity and damage was from the 5/5/65 outbreak in Minnesota? What do you think? Gopher backer 14:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply


Amelia (1978) is of high importance to the TC wikiproject edit

Amelia has the highest known storm total of any tropical cyclone to impact either Texas, the continguous 48, Puerto Rico, or the Virgin Islands. I'd guess it also would trump any tropical cyclone that has struck Hawaii...so it could be the wettest of all 50 states. Why would a cyclone of this importance be rated low? It has more right than Allison (2001) purely from the rainfall efficiency standpoint, that's for sure. Thegreatdr 01:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Then downgrade Allison (2001) now. Thegreatdr 01:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Population is not everything. Amelia, at the time, was the most damaging tropical storm on record. Claudette (1979), Alberto (1994), and Allison (2001) have outdone the cyclone since then. We need to be multi-dimensional in our ratings. Wind is not everything. A tiny storm (like Andrew) hitting the southern fringes of a city is a lucky shot. If Andrew hit another 10 miles farther south, would it be be a low importance storm, the way you see it? Thegreatdr 02:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Extratropical cyclone edit

You might see from my list of answered points on the FAC discussion page that I've answered most, but there are a few that I can't answer (Particularly, "lee trough" lol. I wonder if you'd take a look?Crimsone 03:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Tropical Storm Arlene (2005) edit

This article is incomplete - there is nothing on Cuba impact. It's more than likely not going to get through GAN without it, so please add it as soon as possible. Here's a link to a Cuban report on the storm. It's in Spanish, but you could probably get it translated. --Coredesat 21:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #6 edit

The November issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Election 2006 edit

Excellent addition on the closing times of the states. Thank you for making the article much better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_general_elections%2C_2006

DYK edit

  On 4 November, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 2005 Azores subtropical storm, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Nilfanion (talk) 00:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Kentucky climate edit

Thanks for the assist on Kentucky's climate. I'm presently working to bring this article to "Good article" status and knew we needed a climate section, but had little idea what to put in that section. Any further improvements you can make or recommend would be appreciated. Acdixon 22:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Button bar for WPac edit

Thank you for expressing your views on the proposed WPac button bar. You are invited to give your opinion on a set of factors regarding this here. - SpLoT (*T* C+u+g+v) 15:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Help needed edit

Can i ask of a favor? This may be hard but, using the 1962 PTS page and the assessment scale, on my userpage, rate the level of the cyclone history of each cyclone there. The classes on my page are: Stub, C-Class, Start, B-Class, Good-Class, A-Class and of course FA-Class. My userpage has my own opinions, but to me, if you can help by leaving your opinion about each one, it makes my life a lot easier on what to add. Thanks Crazy. Plus can you tell me which i did best? Mitchazenia(7900+edits) 23:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Federal election issues article edit

Hi there. I saw you made some edits to Issues in the Canadian federal election, 2006 a while back. I'm proposing this article be deleted under prod because it's entirely obsolete, and hasn't had any human edits since April. Just wanted to let you know, in case you think it's worth saving. -Joshuapaquin 02:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Notability guideline being developed edit

Please see WP:MALL where there is an ongoing attempt to create a guideline for which malls are deserving of articles. Your thoughts are appreciated. I note you suggested 700,000 sq ft of GLAin the Strip Mall discussion page, but my rule of thumb proposal was 900,000. Please take a look.Edison 06:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Assessment needed edit

You're the last i am gonna ask this. I need your opinion on my Isaac article. I think i got this right. Thanks.Mitchazenia(8200+edits) 01:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well i moved some of the intro into the storm history. Now how is it?Mitchazenia(8200+edits) 01:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
One thing before i publish it. Is this a public domain picture, its from NASA but posted at the Earth Observatory.[1]. There and thanks.Mitchazenia(8200+edits) 01:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well Chacor left a different opinion, but i got the picture up.I asked several people for an opinion so it would help.Mitchazenia(8200+edits) 01:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

GA review edit

I made some suggestions for the GA review of Hurricane Bonnie (1992) in its talk page since you are the nominator. Have a look and tell me what you think in the talk page. Cheers! Baristarim 15:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

2006 or 2007 edit

I saw you changed the year from 2006 to 2007 with the comment "moved BCS National Championship Game 2006 to BCS National Championship Game 2007: better definition, it is called the 2007 game". Are you sure about this, any cites? Because if you are right then we will have to go back and change the names of the previous eight or so article. Thanks! JS 20:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

  • Thanks, I think I will change the other articles sometime.

DYK edit

  On 18 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hurricane Tanya (1995), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomanganitalk 01:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

RSMC importance edit

In order to prevent systematic bias, it might be a good idea to raise the rest of the RSMC/TCWC articles to high-importance. I'll probably do it later if I have the time and no one else does. --Coredesat 01:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Done. --Coredesat 03:29, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: FA's edit

Actually, I'm basically done with 2003, other than Isabel (and possibly another depression). Most of the others (except Ana) are probably ready for FAC, IMO. Given that all but Isabel are GA's, I'm no longer concerned about that season, so I've moved onto other projects. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

My Hurricane Gordon rant edit

This is me memorializing the disaster, urging remembrance and venting my emotions. The vast majority of it is non-explicit but it is somewhat melodramatic (as rants often are). The final paragraph is a bit blue and it's marked with a warning to protect sensitive ears. I thought you might like to see this page because you were one of the users who seemed to share my opinions when we chewed over it late last year on the 1994 AHS talk page. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 02:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Rock Hill climate edit

I read your review comments on the GA nomination. Thanks for the pointers, I'll make sure to address these concerns. Again, thank you for your time. Happy New Year and best regards, RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 05:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

As nominator of the above FAC, you have to address the objections and comments to the nomination... just to let you know. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'll repeat. As nominator, you are the ones who are supposed to address the objections. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Reply