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Hello, I've seen you created an article. What WikiProject do you want it to be under? Maybe England? Dat GuyWiki (talk) 15:53, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Butterworth Squadron edit
Hi Cranberrydavid, Glad to see that you are still monitoring the article. My plan is to create separate articles for Jackall and Prince Lee Boo, and move the ship boxes to them. I plan to keep the pictures in both locations, i.e., in the article and in the relevant ship box as they are great. If we shrink the two vessel images in the Squadron article we can add increase the size of some of the other Bacstrom pictures, and perhaps add more, if you have them. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 15:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Cranberrydavid, Great that you don't object. (Some editors, including me on occasion, get quite proprietary about articles they create.) I hope you like what I have dug up on her French origins. Am still working on separating out Prince Lee Boo and Jackall. Key problem is limiting the redundancy. What would be helpful is more info on the interaction between the Squadron and Vancouver. Regards,Acad Ronin (talk) 15:50, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have to admit that I was quite chufffed when I found the info on Americaine. An editor that I work with a lot via Wikipedia has access to some French books and he put me onto the trail and I went from there. The years between 1781 and 1784 will probably remain a mystery for a long time. First, because I live several plane rides away from London and so have to do all my research via on line resources. "America" is much harder to search for online than "Butterworth", though even there false positives can be frustrating. Second, because it is quite possible that she spent most of that time sitting at anchor. The date on the prize money notice suggests that she sold quickly. But that doesn't mean that her new owner did anything with her. Even if they did do something with her, unfortunately they didn't list her in Lloyd's Register. Why Jackall? Around the end of the 18th and the beginning of the 19th centuries English went through a period of change. "Jackall" became "Jackal", "Rein Deer" became "Reindeer", "Ring Dove" became "Ringdove", "Rifle Man" became "Rifleman", and "Weazel" and "Weazle" became "Weasel". The problem is that during this period the transition was gradual and so the variants coexisted. I try to use both in the same article, when I remember, because if you go online and look in, for instance, the London Gazette you have to look under the variants as well. So using the variants in the article is a clue/hint to others. And then there is just random variation. "Americaine" shows up as "American", "Amerique", and "America", depending on the language of the source, and whether they saw the name written or just wrote down something they heard. Lastly, please let me urge you to put in whatever you have on Vancouver. I am really a ships guy, not a people guy; I know pretty much where to look online for ships, but know nothing about where to look for people. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 03:16, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi cranberrydavid, I looked at your sandbox notes on Vancouver and think you should go ahead and integrate them into the Butterworth Squadron article. I think part of the story of the squadron, as distinct from its component vessels, was the integration of its explorations with those of Vancouver. Without him, the ASquadron's story would have been more minor - just a bunch of small ships killing otters and getting caught up in a local civil war. We have the room as once I get Prince Lee Boo and Jackall done, that will reduce the length. Thanks for following up my suggestion/recommendation. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Cranberrydavid, I think three parallel stories, one per vessel, would be good. There is still an issue of what goes into the Squadron article and what doesn't, but if you are doing it, you can exercise your judgement over what is too much redundancy, and what is not. The trick is make each of the four articles (squadron and the three vessels) standalone, but at the same time reward the reader who clicks on the links by giving them something that isn't in the others. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 21:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi cranberrydavid, I looked at your sandbox notes on Vancouver and think you should go ahead and integrate them into the Butterworth Squadron article. I think part of the story of the squadron, as distinct from its component vessels, was the integration of its explorations with those of Vancouver. Without him, the ASquadron's story would have been more minor - just a bunch of small ships killing otters and getting caught up in a local civil war. We have the room as once I get Prince Lee Boo and Jackall done, that will reduce the length. Thanks for following up my suggestion/recommendation. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have to admit that I was quite chufffed when I found the info on Americaine. An editor that I work with a lot via Wikipedia has access to some French books and he put me onto the trail and I went from there. The years between 1781 and 1784 will probably remain a mystery for a long time. First, because I live several plane rides away from London and so have to do all my research via on line resources. "America" is much harder to search for online than "Butterworth", though even there false positives can be frustrating. Second, because it is quite possible that she spent most of that time sitting at anchor. The date on the prize money notice suggests that she sold quickly. But that doesn't mean that her new owner did anything with her. Even if they did do something with her, unfortunately they didn't list her in Lloyd's Register. Why Jackall? Around the end of the 18th and the beginning of the 19th centuries English went through a period of change. "Jackall" became "Jackal", "Rein Deer" became "Reindeer", "Ring Dove" became "Ringdove", "Rifle Man" became "Rifleman", and "Weazel" and "Weazle" became "Weasel". The problem is that during this period the transition was gradual and so the variants coexisted. I try to use both in the same article, when I remember, because if you go online and look in, for instance, the London Gazette you have to look under the variants as well. So using the variants in the article is a clue/hint to others. And then there is just random variation. "Americaine" shows up as "American", "Amerique", and "America", depending on the language of the source, and whether they saw the name written or just wrote down something they heard. Lastly, please let me urge you to put in whatever you have on Vancouver. I am really a ships guy, not a people guy; I know pretty much where to look online for ships, but know nothing about where to look for people. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 03:16, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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