Crabjam

Your submission at Articles for creation: G.K. Stothert & Co (July 7)

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 18:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Crabjam. It's very pleasing to see this draft popping up on my feed. I'm not a new article patroller, but hope that after your improved referencing it will make it past the next assessment. I have taken the liberty of adding another good source from Grahame Farr. Incidentally, in the second part of that, he identifies at least sixty specific vessels built by Stotherts. Also I have parked this illustration showing the 1855 launch of Araxes in Commons for later use. Fingers crossed. - Davidships (talk) 23:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Great, thanks very much for that. I've read that book and should probably have included it myself! It appears that Active and Victor were referred to as numbers 278 and 280 (see https://catalogue.gloucestershire.gov.uk/records/D2460/19/2/78) and I think this was by Stothert rather than the owners so it seems possible that there are even more than are listed in the book, although I'm not going to put that in the article without good evidence. Thanks for the illustration - that will be a great addition. I'd also like to include the illustration of the works included in BIAS journal 16 (https://b-i-a-s.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/BIAS_Journal_16_STEAM_TUG_MAYFLOWER.pdf) at some point. Crabjam (talk) 06:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree that they are indeed Stothert's numbers. Unfortunately it seems that there are no surviving archives of the company itself (unless something is lurking in the Stothert & Pitt material in the Museum of Bath at Work). The disparity between the Stothert numbers and the identified vessels is such that I suspect that, like some other shipyards, they used a single "Works number" series including their separate steam engine contracts, other fabrication work and/or shiprepair contracts - or they built a lot of small boats. I have some data on half a dozen or so missed by Farr. Davidships (talk) 12:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)