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Michael Beaty

Hi! Thanks for taking the time to cast your eye over my new page, Michael Beaty, the British American Footballer. I noted you left a message regarding a lack of inline citations. I'm relatively new to writing new articles, can you offer any advice over how I can make the citations better? I obviously don't want to have any of my articles deleted, so I'd like to meet the guidelines where I can! Is there certain parts that should be removed to make sure this doesn't happen? If you've got any tips, that'd be cool, so I don't make the same mistake again!

Thanks again for your time! Gareth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garethom (talkcontribs) 21:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello! I've added specific {{citation needed}} tags after the statements that I thought needed in-line citations. Generally, each group of statements about a specific topic should be cited. Also, please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing "~~~~". -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 13:55, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying! Those parts were based on an interview I had with Michael Beaty in an attempt to find out more about him. I hadn't transcribed it yet, but I'll do so and reference it there. Thanks again for your time. Garethom (talk) 13:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Help

Hi, I'm recently started reviewing new articles. Since you're experienced in reviewing newly created articles, can you tell me which criteria this article: Bantol Beach be speedily deleted. Thanks. Ayub407 (talk) 16:38, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

I'd say that it meets CSD G3, which means it's a complete hoax or other related vandalism. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 17:49, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Oh, do you have Twinke? I like to use when I nominate pages for deletion. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 17:50, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I felt that the article was a complete hoax but just wanted to conform. Thanks. And yeah, I do use Twinke. Ayub407 (talk) 18:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
That's fine. Happy editing! -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 18:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

speedy

It seemed clear to me that Charles-Louis Michelez‎, F.J. Fuchs are historically important, and I think will be found to meet our standard of notability. I therefore did not delete them. Perhaps you are not adequately considering this factor in NPP. Please also see various other speedy nominations of yours that have been declined by cvarious administrators. DGG ( talk ) 21:34, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello. F.J. Fuchs was edited by it's creator more than 20 times before you got to it, about a day after I nominated it. It somewhat irritates me, but he tends to create articles that don't have any significant claim at the time, and then expands them. I wish he would use the draftspace or his userspace until he was done editing them, but whatever. As for Charles-Louis Michelez, I find it difficult to tell what events make someone notable and what don't (there is also the issue that A7 and Notability cover two related but ultimately different things). And I am in the habit of going back through my CSD log and seeing what was deleted and what wasn't. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 22:10, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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Susan L. Talbott

Please revisit. I removed the construction template on this admitted stub. but I want to point out that it is not good form to add a laundry list of tags to an article that has a construction tag and that has peen up for all of - what was it? About 2 seconds? An article, moreover, that at that point had only one source, but it was to a long feature stouy in the New York Times about this curator's work.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I understand your complaint, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to revisit. Can you explain? -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 16:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

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Artocarpus sericicarpus

Hey, I simply wanted to let you know this is for sure not fabricated and, considering Books instantly found results, I've now improved it. Cheers! SwisterTwister talk 19:11, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXIV, September 2015

 
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Rexnord Corporation Wikipedia Page

@Rubbish computer: Thank you for the explanation and advice. What is the best way to go about officially stating that Rexnord Coroporation gives their official approval to use their copyrighted images? Emily.white89 (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@Emily.white89: You're welcome. Is there an official phone number or email address you can contact? --Rubbish computer 19:04, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@Rubbish computer: Sorry, I meant I already have oral permission from the company to use their images. I didn't know if there was a specific template or way to note that within the article. Emily.white89 (talk) 19:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@Emily.white89: Putting it on the Talk page would be helpful, I think. The problem is, even if the company say you can use the images or other content, you need an official statement for this, so you'll probably need to contact them. --Rubbish computer 19:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@Rubbish computer: Noted. Thanks again. - Emily.white89 (talk) 19:19, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@Emily.white89: You're welcome. --Rubbish computer 19:20, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@Compassionate727: The list of products sold by the company is much more extensive than what I had published; it would be nearly impossible. Those familiar with the industry, products, and applications can see they are the main offerings under each particular product group. I believe those seeking out this particular page would not view the product list as promotional. Would it help if I removed product brands and stayed more generalized? Emily.white89 (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@Emily.white89: The thing is that the average Wikipedia user isn't going to be familiar with the field. As it is, you're usually looking up something on Wikipedia because you're not familiar with it and want more information. Many of those items didn't mean anything in particular to me, and I'm a quite intelligent person. If they don't mean anything to me, they probably won't mean anything to a lot of people. If the products don't mean anything to people, then including them doesn't give people a better idea of what the company is or does: it just makes the article look more like a product catalog. And Wikipedia is not a product catalog. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 11:36, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello,

The page for Rexnord Corporation is purely an informational profile of the products and offerings of Rexnord Corporation. It does not contain ad or commercial speech, nor does it compare itself against other competitors. It states public information about the company, including industries served, products offered, number of employees, etc. This page is not intended to be promotional; only informational. Previously Rexnord Corporation did not have a Wikipedia page. Several companies similar to Rexnord Corporation have a Wikipedia page, which served as precedent. It does not serve as grounds for speedy deletion. Emily.white89 (talk) 19:42, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

@Emily.white89: Unfortunately I cannot comment on the exact content of the page as it has been deleted. The fact that articles similar to Rexnord Corporation existed does not mean an article on it is automatically acceptable: there are many articles on Wikipedia which have serious problems, or are not suitable to have articles. What I can say is that copyrighted content cannot be used without prior permission of those holding the copyright: copyright violations are a ground for speedy deletions in themselves. Even if a company allows its copyrighted information being used in this way, it needs to officially state this, or officially give permission for the information to be used.
As for the content being seen as unambiguous advertising or promotion (see WP:CSD#G11, you may want to talk to the deleting administrator, Randykitty (talk · contribs). The article would have been classed as exclusively promotional, and needing to be rewritten to be encyclopedic. WP:What Wikipedia is not is a guideline relevant to this discussion. Through one of the company's pages being copied, it may have resembled a business profile such as those used on LinkedIn, meaning it was unsuitable as an article (see WP:NOTFREEWEBHOST). It could also have resembled a catalogue of products, meaning what some would see as informational content would be classed as promotional content, as this invites the reader to buy or browse the company's products.
I hope this helps, and feel free to ask if you have any questions. As a new editor you may also find the page WP:Teahouse/Questions helpful. Thanks, --Rubbish computer 01:30, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. What Rubbish computer described above, a page that was simply a list of all of the companies products, is why I nominated it for deletion. Although it is necessary to include a few of the company's main products so that the reader can get a feel for what the company does, you had a list of every minor product the company sells. This really only serves to encourage people to buy from the company, since that was all you had, it made the article completely promotional. This qualified it for speedy deletion under CSD G11. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 11:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 29 September. Yours, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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A7

Just so you know, speed deletion criterion A7 applies only to real people, not fictional ones. The way to handle non-notable fictional characters is to either redirect to the work or character list, or nominate for deletion as PROD. If the Prod is challenged, you need to use AfD. We've adopted this rule because they sometimes require some degree of familiarity which not every administrator will have. DGG ( talk ) 11:59, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I was wondering whether or not A7 applied to that. I suppose I could've figured it out by looking up A7, but that thought didn't occur to me. Thanks for clarifying. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 14:38, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: 50 Richest Indians in the GCC

Hello Compassionate727. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of 50 Richest Indians in the GCC, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Useless list, yes, but does not appear to be a hoax. Try AFD. . Thank you. Courcelles (talk) 18:16, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Golborne South railway station

Hi, I checked this article as you had flagged it as a WP:HOAX. The station did exist in the described form, so I have removed the flag. If there is a specific part of the article that you feel is not correct you could flag it more appropriately, or change it. welsh (talk) 06:49, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

A Request

In the future, could you avoid making an edit when there is an In Creation template on a page, unless several hours have passed since the last edit? SilverserenC 00:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXV, October 2015

 
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Thathri

I was surprised to see a CSD tag on this article, saying the article was spam and too promotional. It's a straight-forward, descriptive article about a geographic location and unless it had been written like a travel brochure, it would not be considered promotional. Liz Read! Talk! 20:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Nilalang

Hello Compassionate727! Thank you for patrolling my new page, Nilalang. I already revised it, can you check it again? I hope it doesn't contain promotional content anymore. Just tell me if it still has so that I will edit it immediately. Thank you for helping me! Qaztalk (talk) 17:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for taking care of it. It is much better now. Happy editing! -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 18:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


Joseph Zahra article

Hello Compassionate727, Thank you for patrolling my wikipedia article. I made improvement to Joseph Zahra article. Is that ok for you? Joseph Zahra is a notable person who executed more than 5000 projects. Including huge buildings, major factories... I strongly would like to keep the article and I really need your help to patrol and improve it.

Georges Aoun (talk contribs) 18:52, 21 October 2015

The article has already been deleted by admin. If you want, you can request that the deleting admin, DGG, undelete the article and move it to your userspace. There you can work on it without the risk of having it deleted. When you're ready, I recommend you use Articles for Creation. There you will get feedback on how you can improve the article if needed, instead of having it deleted. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 11:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Futuristic Technological Concepts

Hi I'm new to Wikipedia. I saw that you were going to delete my page which I created. That is actually for a university assignment, that's reason I created the page. I didn't mean to publish it with only two sentences. I am going to add to it with references at least a 10 to be precise. So If you could not delete it and help me make it private or not published then that would be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KafeelChanna (talkcontribs) 19:17, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello. I recommend that you create pages which you aren't done with in your userspace. There you can work on it without having new page patrollers like me breathing down your back. When you're ready, you can simply move it to mainspace. -©2015 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 11:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Compassionate727,

I wrote the article about Exhibby, that you suggested should be deleted speedily.

I read in the linkes you gave me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies

Criteria for speedy deletion Articles, images, categories etc. may be "speedily deleted" if they clearly fall within certain categories, which generally boil down to pages lacking content, or disruptive pages. Anything potentially controversial should go through the deletion process instead.

I do not think my article clearly falls within that criteria. If it goes through the deletion process instead, I can see if I can prove its significance according to criteria of this page.

Sincerely, JusterLeif — Preceding unsigned comment added by JusterLeif (talkcontribs) 15:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

FWIW, such pages should be created in Draft space--userspace is basically obsolete for this, it was recommended long ago before we had Draft space. DGG ( talk ) 04:14, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm OluwaCurtis. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Kingsfield College, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. —OluwaCurtis »» (talk to me) 15:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I took a look at it, and reviewed it again. There is no point in ading quite as many tags as you did originally--most of them are duplicative. DGG ( talk ) 04:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

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