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Help please edit
Hi Clem. I have a bit of an issue with a new user and would appreciate some advice. He's a 16 yo lad from Tyneside and has been editing North Tyneside Steam Railway. He's been constructive - one of the good guys that we need to encourage. The problem is that he has copied the line history from an online publication almost word for word. It is a large edit, unless he had access to the source it would have been a lot of typing, see User talk:Stevie742. I'm not quite sure where to go on this. The head says to put in a request for admin assistance, but the heart warns that some admins tend to stomp over youngsters with a pair of hobnailed boots. Do you know of any sympathetic types that will handle him gently? Kind regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- I think we can fix this ourselves- as I understand it, all we need to do is to protect the text by sending an email to OTRS- at permissions-en@wikimedia.org. It is described in Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. I have never done it but I think that we do need to master the system as I can think of lots of other occasions when it would be helpful. The page is dismal so I am trying to sort out a simple explanation leaflet that is less frightening. I have mentioned these things at the Manchester Wikimeetups where everyone is sympathetic.
- When I am trying to involve an organisation I usually talk to User:HJ Mitchell and I see from his user page he is an admin- and he does OTRS work, so he is probably the best bet if we cant fix it. Harry is waiting for a minor OP so maybe a little less available this month. For technical matters and mills I talk to Andy Mabbett.
- Let me see what I can dream up this weekend- and we can get Stevie to trial the system. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 19:29, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. I see what you mean about the page, considering we are trying to get people to help us it is a bit forbidding. Perhaps if it was acceptable to just send the box, as far as possible filled in, to Stevie or Ian we would be more likely to receive help. Anyhow, I await your "dreaming up". Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:04, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- I have being playing Dungeons and Dragons with all the OTRS pages! I have put together this page User:ClemRutter/Toolbox/OTRS with a more user friendly form and explanation, and sent the link to Harry for comments. If he clears it- then this should give you all the info you need to send to Stevie- I'll keep you posted when I get a reply. Feel free to add comments. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 12:23, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. I see what you mean about the page, considering we are trying to get people to help us it is a bit forbidding. Perhaps if it was acceptable to just send the box, as far as possible filled in, to Stevie or Ian we would be more likely to receive help. Anyhow, I await your "dreaming up". Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:04, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Manchester Jewish Museum edit
I see that you have uploaded a large amount of Jewish history to the Manchester Jewish Museum. While interesting it is completely off topic so could I suggest it is removed and uploaded to a new and much more appropriate article History of Jewish settlement in Manchester which could be linked to the original article and probably to the History of Manchester article. J3Mrs (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Fine go for it, or leave it a couple of weeks for me. I am just clearing down my backlog and coding up a python tool to handle lists of mills. This one had been in my sandbox for ages- as I said 'time to share'. In my memory I had been thinking that it should have been History of Jewish settlement in Manchester. I have been giving Naturism a serious haircut but haven't forgotten Cotton mill, I now have Giles and Goodall, Yorkshire Textile Mills 1770-1930 (0-11-300038-3) that will gives a slightly different perspective, excellent references. I have yet even to start reading it though. You will see above the OTRS discussion too... -- Clem Rutter (talk) 14:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'd rather you did it as it is your work and it only needs a reference section and reflist. J3Mrs (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- As you made the redirect, I did it. It's all yours except for an opening sentence. I hope that's ok. J3Mrs (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent. We will see if have an influx of new contributors!-- Clem Rutter (talk) 18:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- As you made the redirect, I did it. It's all yours except for an opening sentence. I hope that's ok. J3Mrs (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'd rather you did it as it is your work and it only needs a reference section and reflist. J3Mrs (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you for your help with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools#Lincoln_Group_of_Schools edit
Thanks, Clem, for your help at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools#Lincoln_Group_of_Schools. Not sure if I was supposed to respond here, or on the original page. I did not create this page. I'm just responsible for fixing errors, etc. I do not wish to edit the page directly. I was hoping that I could talk through the errors with you (or another editor), and you would update the page in the way that is best, since you are a regular Wikipedia user. Thanks, Eric 74.102.85.132 (talk) 19:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- It doesn't work that way-I have a backlog of articles I want to create- and no-one I know is short of things they want to do. Working with volunteers is like herding cats. I advise others when I come across a cry for help- but 'I have no responsibility to others'. It always seems a shame that there is such a vast untapped pool of talent in the student body that we have failed to engage. I would suggest you report back to your linemamager saying: You have researched issue, and discovered that the task is achievable but it will involve investing resources- particularly time. Wikipedia editing is a bit like writing a MBA thesis, you need to understand the topic, write a draft and fully reference it. Wikipedia markup is easy secretarial task, but in providing the links it becomes necessary to write and research subsidiary stub articles which is time consuming. Done well, and written impartially it becomes a significant asset- and as such it is worth doing. Help is available to advise, on protocols and procedure but not to write copy.
- At this point I need you to be logged on so I can direct this reply, and so you can see I have responded. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 11:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- I understand. I am tracking your responses. I do not have an account and wasn't planning on creating one. Should I create a new account? Also, I don't mind fixing the errors. However, I was advised not to edit the page as I am an employee of Lincoln Tech and therefore have a COI. Thanks, Eric 74.102.85.132 (talk) 15:55, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Open an account- then we will open a subpage for you, you should copy the page from Lincoln Tech onto your subpage- and edit it there. We (Demiurge1000ElKevbo) will advise you on what is OK- and when everyone is happy a third party editor will transfer it over to main page. Wikipedia is very sensitive about conflict of interest- you have been right to bring this to everyones attention- caution is necessary. (edit conflict) I see you have an account- we can continue this discussion there. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 17:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- I understand. I am tracking your responses. I do not have an account and wasn't planning on creating one. Should I create a new account? Also, I don't mind fixing the errors. However, I was advised not to edit the page as I am an employee of Lincoln Tech and therefore have a COI. Thanks, Eric 74.102.85.132 (talk) 15:55, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
AFD edit
Hi mate. Any particular reason you added a "keep" vote to the nominator's rationale? I'm assuming it was a mistake rather than an effort to have the nominator "vote" against his own nomination, right? I've removed it for now but I'm happy to discuss it. Stalwart111 00:30, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yep not awake! -- Clem Rutter (talk) 00:55, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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Ingleton People edit
Shouldn't the section on Mary Doyle be in the Thornton in Lonsdale article, rather than Ingleton's? I would have thought that Ingleton had more than enough to write about without poaching material that belongs to neighbouring parishes. Langcliffe (talk) 19:35, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, nice to chat, Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire is running this collaborate to improve two articles scheme. I am just passing through- and thought it would be good to be involved in such a scheme- and there was on out side chance I could visit one the Leeds meet up. Since then you seem to be the only other person involved. There does seem to be a lot of published material to use as sources. So why pick on Reverend Sherlock- a vicar with High Bentham connections, Cornelius Sherlock who fixed the church- and probably a cousin and then the unfortunate Randall- all have strong Ingleton connections-- and the fluff about ACD is likely to bring in more links and interest to the article. But I haven't yet any other famous or notable folk that are easily accessible and well referenced. MOS style suggests there should be such a section.
- We have two structural problems here- the article is about the settlement and the parish of Ingleton, so writing about the parish takes us to Ribblehead and beyond. I had to use Mapit to convince myself of the limits. Writing about the settlement, in this case includes land that is officially in Thornton- for instance: the Ingleton Waterfalls Trail, most of the Ingleton viaduct and half of the Ingleton Stations. Most hamlets surrounding the village will see Ingleton as part of their identity in a way that Ribblehead will not, as I understand it in 1885 they would use the Ingleton Stations if they wished to travel.
- There seem to be very few folk working on Craven articles, and Thornton in Lonsdale is in a dire straight. ACD is mentioned in the lead but not the article- but with such lack of information that is not surprising.
- I am a prolific content writer who never gets articles past a B- ( I call it lack of ability,) I am always happy to be corrected (saved). You have the advantage as being local to the area so will know far more than me and be able to find the books. Please do join in. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 20:43, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
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Ingleton Parish SSSIs edit
Further to your last edit, there are four SSSIs in the Parish of Ingleton: Ingleborough, Whernside, Thornton and Twistleton Glens, and Salt Lake Quarry. See here for the boundaries. Langcliffe (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent rewrite on geology. I will give geography a bit of a break now- I just would like to leave a reference to Clapham Common so we can put a hat-note on a certain London Article. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 18:43, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Reclining-Declining Sundials edit
Dear ClemRutter,
Sorry for the many edits and re-edits to the Reclining-Declining Sundials paragraph.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundial#Reclining-declining_dials
But I think that I've now got the right formulas now for the gnomon angles at last. Where do I get them ? I derived them - not by any fancy means like rotation matrices or quaternions; but rather through good old-fashioned 3-D Euclidean geometry. By this I mean that I constructed physical models of the reclining-declining dial geometry using cardboard sheets for planes and strips of wire for optical paths and pertinent geometry lines/angles. I chose to do it this way as :
1) The results are far more concrete and convincing when this method is employed. This is particularly true in the reclining-declining dial case as there are many different formulas published for its hour angle and its gnomon angles.
2) The people who build these dials will generally come from a trades background. This means that they would generally have begun apprenticeships at 16 - 17 and their math level will be up to UK GCSE/O-level or French Brevet standard -- i.e. Euclidean geometry, basic trigonometry and basic algebra. My method is followable by people at this standard.
In due course I plan to submit a paper on this method - as well as the relevant diagrams (using Google SketchUp) for the vital geometrical relationships - to the North American Sundial Society.
The orientation switch integer for generalizing the hour angle formula over all dial declinations is the only 'novelty' added to the existing nomenclature. I find it handy when programming.
If you have any points to make on the actual formulas presented in Wiki by me or want to offer alternatives for discussion, please feel free.
Tamjk (talk) 10:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- I am enjoying the links personally but having difficulty in seeing how all this can be justified under WP:NOR. I would be inclined to keep the published sources (right or wrong) and include the improvements (unpublished corrections wrapped in a {{efn}} template that links to the {{notelist}} footnote. Rest assured I accept your maths as being superior.
- What I was about to do was to change all the notation which I got from Waugh, Mayall & Mayall to the agreed symbols used by and recommended by the BSS- but that is also on hold while I sort out a useable python library.
- It is interesting that fr:Cadran incliné-déclinant doesnt exist but all other types fr:Cadran déclinant have separate page- I haven't analysed which notation convention they are using- but I suspect that even there they are excluded most readers by using Greek letters which are not taught at brévet/ GCSE level.
- Many thoughts - much to do -- Clem Rutter (talk) 11:34, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, there's no original research here. Simply the same results via a more traditional and more workmanlike method. The hour angle formula is the same (bar using reclination angle instead of inclination) as those presented by Snyder and others :
http://dls-website.com/documents/SundialDesignConsiderations.pdf
The gnomon angle formulas are the same as those presented in the BSS Formulae webpage, at least the dial-plate angle (the "style height" in BSS parlance) once you allow for their defining inclination w.r.t. the rear horizontal rather than the front (i.e. sun side) horizontal.
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Glossary/equations/equations-new.php
Unfortunately they have the substyle-noon angle wrong - but so did all of us originally.
Tamjk (talk) 16:10, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I've now completed changing the Greek nomenclature to Roman. Tamjk (talk) 14:05, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mr Rutter. It seems that I owe you an apology for having given you so much grief by way of other posters rejecting my hour-angle formulae ! But I shall make no apology at all for the hour-angle formulae themselves. I am confident that they are correct since I derived them two ways - and moreover since they square with those of Snyder [ref. above], allowing for his nomenclature definition. The gnomon-plate and the substyle-noon angles are also consistent with those quoted in some other sources. LIkewise with the critical angle expression for the reclined-declined dial. I'd intended putting out a paper detailing my derivations but other obligations intervened. Hopefully this summer.
May God give you strength in your thankless task here.
Queen Street Mill editathon edit
We're running another editathon, at Queen Street Mill in Burnley, England, on 10 May. Hope you can make it! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- A reminder; this event is on Saturday. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:02, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
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Hello, I have been thinking you'd removed the pic by accident. There are indeed no English references when it comes to this building. It is all in German if I remember right. I thought the pic spoke for itself and it presented an interesting architecture which would complete the overview on differently built watermills quite nicely. Obviously you are more committed to this topic and therefore understandably more demanding. I respect that. Thanks having straigthened this out for me. NordhornerII (talk)I am not a number! I am a Nordhorner. 19:12, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contribution, yesterday. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:21, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
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Could use your help for an article I'm working on edit
Andy Mabbett referred me to you. In working on Judah Benjamin, I've set forth a section on the basis of Southern foreign policy, i.e. King Cotton, although Benjamin was never the most enthusiastic supporter of same. I need material to write a couple of well-chosen paragraphs on how it was that Britain's policy to avoid recognition and so forth had public support, even at the price (let's face it) of people's lives in the Cotton famine. I'd be grateful for your help on a few sources. I can email you if it would be helpful to send attachments.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:03, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
- Glad to help if I can- I will find what I have . Some of the refs were included in Lancashire Cotton Famine and other basic ones are on User:ClemRutter/Citations. There is a well known schoolbook myth= that the cotton workers on SE Lancashire happily endured starvation to support their black brothers- but checking the sources reveal a) a more complex story b) few if any modern reliable references but even this I need to check.
- Send me an email and I see I can be more precise. No promises.-- Clem Rutter (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Images edit
You might enjoy browsing through these. I have added some as external links. J3Mrs (talk) 08:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know what to say! 130 images and each one contains enough information for several evenings of editing. Some will become a new article - and maybe two or more. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
VisualEditor newsletter—May 2014 edit
Did you know?
The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates. If your wiki has enabled the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, press "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" and select the appropriate template from the menu.
Existing citations that use these templates can be edited either using the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" tool or by selecting the reference and choosing the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu.
Read the user guide for more information.
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.
The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.
Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.
- There is a new Beta Feature for setting content language and direction. This allows editors who have opted in to use the "Language" tool in the "Insert" menu to add HTML span tags that label text with the language and as being left-to-right (LTR) or right-to-left (RTL), like this:
<span lang="en" dir="ltr">English</span>. This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis. - The tool for editing mathematics formulae in VisualEditor has been slightly updated and is now available to all users, as the "⧼math-visualeditor-mwmathinspector-title⧽" item in the "Insert" menu. It uses LaTeX like in the wikitext editor.
- The layout of template dialogs has been changed, putting the label above the field. Parameters are now called "fields", to avoid a technical term that many editors are unfamiliar with.
- TemplateData has been expanded: You can now add "suggested" parameters in TemplateData, and VisualEditor will display them in the template dialogs like required ones. "Suggested" is recommended for parameters that are commonly used, but not actually required to make the template work. There is also a new type for TemplateData parameters: wiki-file-name, for file names. The template tool can now tell you if a parameter is marked as being obsolete.
- Some templates that previously displayed strangely due to absolute CSS positioning hacks should now display correctly.
- Several messages have changed: The notices shown when you save a page have been merged into those used in the wikitext editor, for consistency. The message shown when you "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cancel⧽" out of an edit is clearer. The beta dialog notice, which is shown the first time you open VisualEditor, will be hidden for logged-in users via a user preference rather than a cookie. As a result of this change, the beta notice will show up one last time for all logged-in users on their next VisualEditor use after Thursday's upgrade.
- Adding a category that is a redirect to another category prompts you to add the target category instead of the redirect.
- In the "Images and media" dialog, it is no longer possible to set a redundant border for thumbnail and framed images.
- There is a new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData. You can test it by editing a documentation subpage (not a template page) at Mediawiki.org: edit mw:Template:Sandbox/doc, and then click "Manage template documentation" above the wikitext edit box. If your community would like to use this TemplateData editor at your project, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
- There have been multiple small changes to the appearance: External links are shown in the same light blue color as in MediaWiki. This is a lighter shade of blue than the internal links. The styling of the "Style text" (character formatting) drop-down menu has been synchronized with the recent font changes to the Vector skin. VisualEditor dialogs, such as the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽" dialog, now use a "loading" animation of moving lines, rather than animated GIF images. Other changes were made to the appearance upon opening a page in VisualEditor which should make the transition between reading and editing be smoother.
- The developers merged in many minor fixes and improvements to MediaWiki interface integration (e.g., edit notices), and made VisualEditor handle Education Program pages better.
- At the request of the community, VisualEditor has been deployed to Commons as an opt-in. It is currently available by default for 161 Wikipedia language editions and by opt-in through Beta Features at all others, as well as on several non-Wikipedia sites.
Looking ahead: The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard. The "Keyboard shortcuts" link will be moved out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.
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Steaming process in Lancashire cotton mills edit
Can you identify a suitable photograph (or photographs) for Steaming process in Lancashire cotton mills, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Short answer no. My sources don't mention steaming as such just 'regulating humidity'. (Naismith 1895 Recent Cotton Mill construction, pp 84-104) discusses Heating, Ventilation and Humidity. Discussion always refers to injecting water vapour into the room- not releasing steam directly. They have a device called the Drosophore to do the work- or more to the point 'a device made by Mr Pye of Blackburn' that may be the culprit. illus 42-43, p 98-99. I would want to research this further before being definitive.
Also a Lofthouse device. I suspect that there are excellent illustrations in the copies of the Textile Mercury locked in the QSM library -- Clem Rutter (talk) 18:50, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Misleading reference edit
National Building Register:63764: [Mill 1] used in List of mills in Wakefield is not an English Heritage website. The template you have used is misleading as the information is published by Yorkshire Industrial Heritage. Can you correct it? J3Mrs (talk) 16:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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VisualEditor global newsletter—June 2014 edit
Did you know?
The character formatting menu, or "Style text" menu lets you set bold, italic, and other text styles. "Clear formatting" removes all text styles and removes links to other pages.
Do you think that clear formatting should remove links? Are there changes you would like to see for this menu? Share your opinion at MediaWiki.org.
The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor.
The VisualEditor team is mostly working to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.
- They have moved the "Keyboard shortcuts" link out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Within dialog boxes, buttons are now more accessible (via the Tab key) from the keyboard.
- You can now see the target of the link when you click on it, without having to open the inspector.
- The team also expanded TemplateData: You can now add a parameter type "
date"for dates and times in the ISO 8601 format, and "boolean"for values which are true or false. Also, templates that redirect to other templates (like{{citeweb}}→{{cite web}}) now get the TemplateData of their target (bug 50964). You can test TemplateData by editing mw:Template:Sandbox/doc. - Category: and File: pages now display their contents correctly after saving an edit (bug 65349, bug 64239)
- They have also improved reference editing: You should no longer be able to add empty citations with VisualEditor (bug 64715), as with references. When you edit a reference, you can now empty it and click the "use an existing reference" button to replace it with another reference instead.
- It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor. Remember that inline images cannot display captions, so existing captions get removed. Many other bugs related to images were also fixed.
- You can now add and edit
{{DISPLAYTITLE}}and__DISAMBIG__in the "Page options" menu, rounding out the full set of page options currently planned. - The tool to insert special characters is now wider and simpler.
Looking ahead edit
The VisualEditor team has posted a draft of their goals for the next fiscal year. You can read them and suggest changes on MediaWiki.org.
The team posts details about planned work on VisualEditor's roadmap. You will soon be able to drag-and-drop text as well as images. If you drag an image to a new place, it won't let you place it in the middle of a paragraph. All dialog boxes and windows will be simplified based on user testing and feedback. The VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for citations. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments and adding rows and columns to tables.
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VisualEditor newsletter—July and August 2014 edit
The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.
The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.
- Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
- You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
- All references and footnotes (
<ref>tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "Insert" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "Insert" menu. - When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
- All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
- The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
- The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.
Looking ahead edit
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.
Feedback opportunities edit
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Judges' Lodgings references edit
Hi Clem. Can you help with the references please. I was trying to tidy up the references by adding some ISBN links. The edits ended up adding duplicate references numbers. What did I get wrong? Thanks 5istanbul (talk) 17:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of textile mills by geographical location edit
Category:Lists of textile mills by geographical location, which you created, has been nominated for upmerge to Category:Lists of textile mills. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Background: I created a parent to this category and intended to populate each. But, in retrospect, I should have just proposed renaming this category. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:36, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
British usage of "Textile workers" edit
ClemRutter,
In American English a "textile worker" is a phrase for someone who actually works at the looms or spinners and is directly making textiles. It would not apply inventors, mill owners and other workers in the textile industry. (Auto workers and steel workers are similar, in that they imply someone directly making those products, not just someone in that industry.)
Does British English have that same usage? (I'm asking because Category:Textile workers contains subcategories that would not fit the American usage for that phrase. I want to make sure this isn't just a regional English issue before I propose to rename it.)
Thanks, RevelationDirect (talk) 00:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yes- just the same. A worker is someone who 'gets their hands dirty'. When talking about an industry- we talk about 'workers and management'. A worker would be paid a wage- while management would be paid a salary! I can't immediately think of a term that would encapsulate- the entrepreneurs who got rich by inventing new forms of cotton machinery and mill owners.
- Samuel Crompton is an interesting case- as the article says he was a textile worker- but is notable because he invented the mule-jenny (Textile inventor) and started a company to produce them (Textile machinery manufacturer) (Employer). As he was poor he failed to patent the device... This may be where the confusion started! No-one would call William Houldsworth a textile worker. I will be interested to see your solution. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 07:28, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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VisualEditor newsletter—September and October 2014 edit
TemplateData is a separate program that organizes information about the parameters that can be used in a template. VisualEditor reads that data, and uses it to populate its simplified template dialogs.
With the new TemplateData editor, it is easier to add information about parameters, because the ones you need to use are pre-loaded.
See the help page for TemplateData for more information about adding TemplateData. The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing team has reduced technical debt, simplified some workflows for template and citation editing, made major progress on Internet Explorer support, and fixed over 125 bugs and requests. Several performance improvements were made, especially to the system around re-using references and reference lists. Weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org.
There were three issues that required urgent fixes: a deployment error that meant that many buttons didn't work correctly (bugs 69856 and 69864), a problem with edit conflicts that left the editor with nowhere to go (bug 69150), and a problem in Internet Explorer 11 that caused replaced some categories with a link to the system message, MediaWiki:Badtitletext (bug 70894) when you saved. The developers apologize for the disruption, and thank the people who reported these problems quickly.
Increased support for devices and browsers edit
Internet Explorer 10 and 11 users now have access to VisualEditor. This means that about 5% of Wikimedia's users will now get an "Edit" tab alongside the existing "Edit source" tab. Support for Internet Explorer 9 is planned for the future.
Tablet users browsing the site's mobile mode now have the option of using a mobile-specific form of VisualEditor. More editing tools, and availability of VisualEditor on smartphones, is planned for the future. The mobile version of VisualEditor was tweaked to show the context menu for citations instead of basic references (bug 68897). A bug that broke the editor in iOS was corrected and released early (bug 68949). For mobile tablet users, three bugs related to scrolling were fixed (bug 66697, bug 68828, bug 69630). You can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia from your tablet by clicking on the cog in the top-right when editing a page and choosing which editor to use.
TemplateData editor edit
A tool for editing TemplateData will be deployed to more Wikipedias soon. Other Wikipedias and some other projects may receive access next month. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Edit template data" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
Other changes edit
Several interface messages and labels were changed to be simpler, clearer, or shorter, based on feedback from translators and editors. The formatting of dialogs was changed, and more changes to the appearance will be coming soon, when VisualEditor implements the new MediaWiki theme from Design. (A preview of the theme is available on Labs for developers.) The team also made some improvements for users of the Monobook skin that improved the size of text in toolbars and fixed selections that overlapped menus.
VisualEditor-MediaWiki now supplies the mw-redirect or mw-disambig class on links to redirects and disambiguation pages, so that user gadgets that colour in these in types of links can be created.
Templates' fields can be marked as 'required' in TemplateData. If a parameter is marked as required, then you cannot delete that field when you add a new template or edit an existing one (bug 60358).
Language support improved by making annotations use bi-directional isolation (so they display correctly with cursoring behaviour as expected) and by fixing a bug that crashed VisualEditor when trying to edit a page with a dir attribute but no lang set (bug 69955).
Looking ahead edit
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon, perhaps in late October.
The team is also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables, and early work for this may appear within the month. Please comment on the design at Mediawiki.org.
In the future, real-time collaborative editing may be possible in VisualEditor. Some early preparatory work for this was recently done.
Supporting your wiki edit
At Wikimania, several developers gave presentations about VisualEditor. A translation sprint focused on improving access to VisualEditor was supported by many people. Deryck Chan was the top translator. Special honors also go to संजीव कुमार (Sanjeev Kumar), Robby, Takot, Bachounda, Bjankuloski06 and Ата. A summary of the work achieved by the translation community has been posted here. Thank you all for your work.
VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
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Queen Victoria Memorial, Lancaster edit
Thanks for your help, Clem, and your suggestion. I agree, there's plenty more to add about Lord Ashton and his civic beneficence. I hope to be adding more, particularly about the Town Hall soon and will link it all together Paul2point0 16:55, 24 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul2point0 (talk • contribs)
Dolls edit
Hey - really excited to see you're doing articles on various doll makers. I will be keeping an eye out for these. Do let me know if you need any help or need to pick my brain - while I'm mainly a fashion guy, I have a lot of interest in antique and vintage dolls too. Mabalu (talk) 22:46, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
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VisualEditor newsletter—November 2014 edit
VisualEditor is also available on the mobile version of Wikipedia. Login and click the pencil icon to open the page you want to edit. Click on the gear-shaped settings in the upper-right corner, to pick which editor to use. Choose "Edit" to use VisualEditor, or "Edit source" to use the wikitext editor.
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The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. Not all features are available in Mobile Web.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.
Recent improvements edit
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias next week, and eventually at the English Wikipedia.
The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.
VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.
The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar's menus are now shown in the menus. VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience / Design group. The appearance of dialogs has already changed in one Mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.)
Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search program could not find the page. A link inside a template, to a local page that does not exist, will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to a error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [1] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.
TemplateData edit
The tool for quickly editing TemplateData will be deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. This tool is already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Edit template data" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common response for that parameter. The autovalue can be easily overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.
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Looking ahead edit
Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in tables will appear next Wednesday. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be possible later. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus will be hidden behind a "More" item, such as "underlining" in the styling menu. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.
The user guide will be updated soon to add information about editing tables. The translations for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language. Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.
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Manchester meetup November 2014 edit
Please note that I've put the start time of the Manchester meetup back to 1.30, and changed the venue to a pub closer to the training venue. (See meetup talkpage.) Bazonka (talk) 20:48, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Clem, It looks like the start time of the meetup may change further! Bazonka has changed to a maybe, so I have suggested that we delay the start of the meetup until the end of the training. If you would like to be part of the training then we can make that work. Even if you can't come until the afternoon that should work. In the afternoon we will be having an editing session and having someone extra on hand to help individuals would be great! Yaris678 (talk) 10:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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Weft edit
I was just admiring your work on Queen Street Mill — well done. I see that your more recent work includes parkin (cake) which was on my mind recently because I grew up in the NW, where it was a regular Bonfire Night treat. M&S are selling a version of it now so I've been introducing it to friends, who quite liked it. Anyway, getting back to textiles, I recently started a stub on Margaret Greig but didn't have time to get into the topic much further. I just mention it as food for thought - you may be able to weave it into your other work. Regards, Andrew D. (talk) 19:00, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Rochester and Strood edit
Hi Clem Thanks for your attention to the Rochester and Strood by-election, 2014 particularly since many inaccuracies have been posted. I don't want to appear to have joined that list, particularly since I know something about the subject! Rochester = cathedral town, rather than city (as I think you mean in common parlance, altho technically it is definitely a city!). Reckless is both current & subsequent MP but many readers might be confused by "subsequent" because Wiki normally states current Member of Parliament (correct me if I'm wrong). Labour's candidate had to be approved by NEC whereas the Tories for their own reasons were bound by their/its (should be stated as Conservative Party to be pedantic), the acting returning officer was Fenwick, and to be fair it wasn't just Danzcuk who criticized Thornberry's tweet (which importantly was of a house in Strood not Rochester). Anyway let me know how to iron out these inaccuracies (& others)... Many thanks M
- Good idea to unwind over a cold one - when's the next do? Btw unless I'm losing my marbles the text of the aforementioned article seems to be going backwards (both in terms of phrasing and info - qv: "was also lower than any of their Liberal predecessors had polled" why the "had"..?)
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SoT edit
Hi, as ever I am impressed by your enthusiasm for taking on new tasks. The Gladstone article was looking rather run-down before your visit.
I was at the meeting in Birmingham yesterday. It was interesting. -Thoughtfortheday (talk) 10:23, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Wish I had been in B'rum but grandparent duties came first. When you have put your thoughts together- could you email me a brief synopsis. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 17:38, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
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VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014 edit
Did you know?
Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from existing tables at the click of a button.
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).
Recent improvements edit
Basic support for editing tables is available. You can insert new tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan and colspan elements, instead of trying to repair them.
You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ⌃ Ctrl+F or ⌘ Cmd+F.
You can now create and edit simple <blockquote> paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "Paragraph" into a "Block quote".
Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "* " will make the line a bullet list; "1. " or "# " will make it a numbered list; "==" will make it a section heading; ": " will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change. There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[" for opening the link tool, and "{{" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ⌃ Ctrl+K to open the link editor, still work.
If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.
You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.
Looking ahead edit
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at MediaWiki.org in late December and at other sites early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)
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